Why the "Problem of Induction" really isn't a problem. (And why theists don't even get it right)

What is Inductive Logic?
Gregory Lopez and Chris Smith
We can define any type of logic as a formal a priori system (axiomatic) that is usually employed in reasoning. In general, if we feed in true propositions, and follow the rules of the particular system, the logic will crank out true conclusions.
We can define 'induction" as a thought process that involves moving from particular observations of real world phenomena to general rules about all similar types of phenomena (a posteriori). We hold that these rules that we generate are probably, but not certainly, true, because such claims are not tautologies.
Inductive logic therefore, is a formal system that can be distinguished from deductive logic in that the premises we feed into these arguments are not categories or definitions or equalities, but observations of the real world - a posteriori world. Inductive logic therefore, is the reasoning we do every day while working in the real world - i.e. the probabilities that we deal with while making judgments about the world. We can think of it as learning from experience and
applying our prior experiences to new, but similar, situations.
History
Inductive logic is basically a form of probability. While human beings have used intuitive forms of inductive reasoning all throughout history, probably theory was first formalized in 1654 by the mathematicians Pascal and Fermat - during their correspondence over the game of dice! In their attempts to understand the game, they created a set of frequencies - or possibilities that described the likelihood for particular rolls of the dice. In doing this, they accidentally set down the basics of probability theory.
It was only a short time later, in 1748, that someone noticed a problem in probability theory - that it included the presumption that the future would be just like the past, yet this assumption could not in of itself provide a sufficient condition for justifying induction, seeing as there is no valid logical connection between a collection of past experiences and what will be the case in the future. Hume's Inquiry Concerning Human Understanding" is noted, even today, for pointing out this problem - the "problem of induction". However, few realize that a solution to the problem appeared only a few years later: In 1763, Thomas Bayes's presented a theorm that unaware to him, could be used to provide a logical connection between the past and the future in order to account for induction. More recently, Kolmogorv (1933) axiomized probability theory, which means that he gave probability theory an axiomatic foundation. Induction, therefore, while a probabilistic enterprise, is founded on a deduced system:
The three axioms of formalized probability theory:
1. The probability of any proposition falls between 1 and 0.
2. Certian propositions have a probability of 1
3. When there is no overlap, P(P or Q) = P(P) + P(Q)
and the definition of conditional probability:
P(P/Q) = P(P & Q)/P(Q)
If you accept these axioms, you must accept Bayes Theorem. It follows logically from the axioms.
These are the key points to the history of induction as far as the formal origins and formal supports for induction. I will cover these points in more detail below. But first, let's look at the different types of inductive logic.
Types of Inductive Logic
Let's do a brief review of some kinds of Inductive Logic
Argument from analogy . This occurs when we compare two phenomena based on traits that they share. For example, we might hold that Object 'A' shares the traits w, x and y, with with object 'B,' therefore, object A might also share other qualities of object B.
Statistical syllogism. This inductive logic is similar to the argument from analogy. The form of the logic follows: X% of "A" are "B", so the probability of "A' being "B" is X%
Example: 3% of smokers eventually contract lung cancer. John Doe is a smoker, therefore, he has a 3% chance of contracting lung cancer.
Generalization from sample to population The best example of this inductive logic would be a poll. Polls rely on random samples that are representative of a group by virture of their random selection (i.e. the fact that every person had the same chance of being chosen for the sample).
On my website, I will also discuss John Stuart Mill's Method of Causality. For now, let's return to the aformentioned "problem of induction" and take a deeper look both at the problem of induction, and some solutions for this problem.
The problem of induction
You've probably heard about Hume's famous 'problem of induction"
How do we know that the future will be like the past?
Or... more comedically
How do we know that the future will continue to be as it always has been?!
Consider the following example: we observe two billiard balls interact. From this, we observe that they appear to obey a physical law that could be presented in the formula: F=ma - Force = Mass X acceleration. From this observation, we then generate a general law of force. However, the problem then arises: how can we hold that this law will really apply to all similar situations in the future? How can we justify that this will always be the case?
If we argue that "we can know this, because the balls have always acted this way in the past" we are not really answering the question for the question asks how how we know that the balls will act this way in the future. Of course, we can then insist that the future will be just like the past, but this is the very question under consideration! We might then insist that there is a uniformity of nature that allows us to deduce our conclusion. But, how do we know that nature is uniform? Because in the past it always seemed so? Again, we are simply assuming what we seek to prove.
So, it turns out that this defense is circular... we assume what we seek to justify in the first place, that the past will be like the future. So this argument fails to provide a justification for induction.
But this in itself is not the whole story, in fact, if we stop here, we get the story all wrong. You see, the 'uniformity of nature' is in fact a necessary condition for induction but it could never be a sufficient justification of inductive inference anyway. The actual problem of induction is more than this: it is the claim that there is no valid logical "connection" between a collection of past experiences and what will be the case in the future. The classic "white swans" example serves: the fact that every swan you've seen in the past was white means simply that: every swan you've seen has been white. There is no logical "therefore" to bridge the connection "all the swans I've seen are white" to "all swans are white" or "the next swan I encounter will be white".
So, yes induction presupposes the uniformity of nature, but while this is a necessary condition for induction, the UN is not sufficient to justify inductive inferences epistemologically. So, any attempt to solve the problem by shoring up the 'uniformity of nature' will never work to begin with. When the next swan turns out to be black, it shows your statement "all swans are white" had no actual "knowledge" content. What you've done is presupposed nature to be uniform, but not in fact justified any particular inductive inference you may wish to make.
So,solving the 'problem' of induction is more than just trying to find a way out of the 'circle' of uniformity of nature/justifying induction. There is a problem that needs a solution. Interestingly, many critics seem to believe that the story ends here - that there simply is a problem, and that all solutions are merely circular. But this is untrue. There are responses to the problem.
Since it was Hume who first uncovered this problem, let's begin by looking at his response:
David Hume's Response: This assumption is a 'habit'
Hume's answer was that we had little choice but to assume that the future will be like the past..... in other words, it was a habit born of necessity - we'd starve without it! And, given that there was nothing contradictory, logically impossible or irrational to holding to the assumption, this utility of induction was seen to support the assumption on a pragmatic basis. This is a key point lost upon many people: there is nothing illogical or irrational about assuming that induction works, nor are there any rational grounds for holding that 'induction is untrustworthy'. The fact that I cannot be absolutely certain that the sun will rise tomorrow does
not give me any justification in holding that it will not rise tomorrow! This error is called the fallacy of arguing from inductive uncertainty.
But merely holding that an assumption is 'not irrational' is not a satisfying enough answer for many. Hume himself stated: "As an agent I am satisfied but as a philosopher I am still curious." So let's continue our search for an answer to the problem.
What is the Basis for Inductive Logic? - An examination of Probability Theory
Curiously, the axiomatic foundations for inductive logic only tell us how a probability behaves, not what it is. So let's begin our examination by first defining what we actually mean by saying the word "probability".
Three common definitions:
Classical - the classical definition describes probability as a set of possible occurrences where all possibilities are 'equally likely' - but a problem arises from this definition. For example, how do you define "possibility" in a univocal manner? Is an outcome 50/50 (either it happens or it does not) or is an outcome actually 1/10, 1/100? In many cases there are possible reasons for each choice. So let's look at another definition.
Frequentist - the 'frequency' is the probability for a given event, that is determined as you approach an infinite number of trials. For example, as with the central limit theorm, you could learn what a probability might be for the roll of a 7 on a pair of dice, after rolling them for a large number of trials. This is the most popular definition, including in science and medicine. This view is backed up by axiomatic deduced probability theory (based on infinite trials (like coin flips)) the law of large numbers. The frequency converges to the probability when we reach infinity. But there are problems here as well: does the limit actually exist? Do we ever really know a probability, since we can't do things infinitely? Also, this method gives us very counterintuitive interpretations. For example, consider a 95% confidence
interval - often this is read to mean that 1 out of every 20 such studies is in error. In
actuality, what this means is that if the experiment were repeated infinitely, you'd get the real mean 95% of the time. This is hardly what people think when they read a poll.
Finally, we can't apply this method to singular cases. 'One case probabilities' are "nonsense" to the frequentist. How do we work out the probability of the meteor that hit the earth to kill the dinosaurs?
We can't repeat this experiment infinitely! We can't repeat it once! We see the same problem with creationist arguments for our universe that attempt to assign a probability to the universe.
Subjective probability - Here, probability is held to be the degree of belief in an event, fact, or proposition. Look at the benefits of this model. 1) We can more carefully assign a probability to a given situation. 2) We can apply this to method 'one case events'. 3) This manner of defining probability gives us very natural and intuitive interpretations of events that fits with our use of the word "probably", circumventing the problems of frequentism.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: Allows us to rationally adjust our beliefs "inductively" by use of probability theory, which is a mathematically deduced theory, so we can latch on our beliefs onto a deductive axiomatic system. Here then, for many, is the solution to Hume's "problem" - induction is no longer merely "not irrational', but instead, can be seen as resting upon a firm deductive foundation.
How does it work?
How do you get a 'number' or probability, for subjective probability? Let's use the concept of wagering.... What would you consider to be a fair bet for a particular outcome? Is X more probable then getting Y heads in a row in your view? In brief, this is how the method works.
Subjective probability and frequency are linked by the "Principal Principle" (David Lewis) or Ian Hacking's "Frequency Principle" (his book cover appears at top). Subjective probablity is justified by a reductio argument: if your subjective probabilities don't match the frequency, and you know nothing else, you have no grounds for your belief.
A question may arise: How can we reason anything if probability's subjective? Well, it is true that you can just choose any starting ground you desire, HOWEVER, your choice must follow laws of probability, or else you're susceptible to 'Dutch Book Arguments' - what this means is that if your degrees of belief don't follow the laws of probability, you are being inconsistent and incoherent. You can choose to believe what you want, but at the risk of being incoherent. The beauty of this method is that a starting point is not necessarily very important: given differing
starting probabilities, based on different subjective evaluations, two very different people who are shown enough of the same evidence will have their probabilities converge to the same value (a LAW OF LARGE NUMBERS) by probability theory - beliefs will converge to a similar value!
Being a subjectivist who wants to use probability as a basis of induction leads us to focus on a certain way of doing things using, Bayes' Theorm
BAYES' THEOREM
The simplest form of Bayes' Theorem:
where:
H is is the hypothesis. This is a falsifiable claim you have about some phenomena in the real world
E is the evidence This it the reason or justification you have for holding to the
hypothesis. It is your grounds.
P(E|H) is called the likelihood : it is also the probability of E given H. In other
words, it is the probability that the evidence would occur if the hypothesis were true.
P(H) is called the prior, or prior probability of H. It is the probability of the
hypothesis being true without taking additional evidence into consideration. In other words, it is an unconditional probability. When I call something, "the prior" without qualification, I mean this probability.
P(E) is called the prior , or prior probability of the evidence E. It is the probability of E occurring regardless of H being true. This probability can be broken down further into the partition , as explained below.
The denominator of Eqn. 1 can be broken down as:
where H is the compliment of H, AKA not-H, and S is the sum over all independent hypotheses. This is sometimes called the partition. The top form is used when one is only considering whether a hypothesis H is true or false. The bottom form is more general, and holds for several independent hypotheses.
Plugging these into Eqn. 1 yields either:
which is useful when considering one hypothesis, being either true or false - this denominator of the right side of the equation multiplies the probability of the hypothesis being true against the probability of the hypothesis being false.
or it yeilds:
which is useful when considering how some evidence supports several independent hypotheses.
This, in a nutshell, is a possible foundation for Inductive logic. For more on this concept, try Wikipedia's entry on Bayesian Inference
Some notes on Bayes' himself:
Rev. Bayes may have (but not definitely) disagreed with "subjective probability". He derived his equation in order to answer a weird problem, which is briefly (and IIRC - no resources with me right now) as follows: you have a pool table of a known size. You draw a line across it parallel to one of the edges (I forget if it's the long or short edge). But you don't know where along the pool table the line's drawn. Now, you place a billiard ball on the table "at random" (equal probabilities of it being anywhere on the table), and you get a yes or no answer to the following question each time you do it: "is the ball to the left of the line?". Repeat this process a few times. With this problem, Bayes derived his equation and used it to find the probability that the
line is drawn at distance X from one side of the table: i.e. the probability that the line is X away from one side of the table.
So, whiles Bayes' theorm can be called upon to solve the problem of induction, Bayes wasn't really concerned with induction. He laid the mathematical foundations, however, for it to be "solved" (many people still today say that Bayesianism isn't really a solution, but a circumvention, of the problem of induction - a very technical point, however. And some object to Bayesianism altogether). The mathematician Pierre Laplace was the one who took up subjective probability and ran with it: he calculated the probability of the mass of a planet with it, and even calculated the probability that the sun would in fact rise tomorrow. There were, however, fatal flaws in his argument which led subjective probability to be all but abandoned. The frequentists took up the ball, and ran with it, until the mathematician Bruno De
Finetti picked up Laplace's torch, leading to "Bayesianism" almost as we know it today.
Conclusion
Lopez believes that both classical and Bayesian statistics answer the problem of induction, as they are both founded on a priori deductive systems. Thus, he ultimately believes that the problem of induction is only a problem if one wishes to find certainty in a belief, and nothing more. It completely discounts degrees of belief.
Degrees of belief is most directly addressed by the Bayesian view. However, the frequentist interpretation still has some power against the problem of induction in my view as well.
Two Further notes:
As already stated above, Christian Presuppositionalists often state the Problem of Induction incorrectly, confusing it with the assumption of a Uniformity of Nature, an error made even more comical when one considers that there solution is an assumption of the Uniformity of "God"!
However, they commit yet another serious blunder: it is a mistake to hold that a failure to provide an adequate justification for induction leaves us without any grounds to rely on induction other than 'faith': The fact one cannot prove something to be correct doesn't imply that one cannot know that the system is correct. A child is unable to prove his name, does this mean he does not know it? Knowledge and proof are two different philosophical concepts. The Problem of Induction relates to philosophical justification.
In short - no matter how one ultimately slices it, the mathematics of probability and statistics ultimately does away with the problem of induction - Bayesian or not.
More Comments on the Problem
Quite frequently I encounter people who equate lack of certitude with giant inferential leaps. Science deals with probabilities, often quite high probabilities, but not certitudes. It is one of the strengths of the scientific method as it acknowledges a chance of error(while maintaining rigorous standards to establish provisional acceptance of propositions). "It is a mistake to believe that a science consists in nothing but conclusively proved propositions, and it is unjust to demand that it should It is a demand only made by those who feel a craving for authority in some form and a need to replace the religious catechism by something else, even if it be a scientific one. Science in its catechism has but few apodictic precepts; it consists mainly of statements which it has developed to varying degrees of probability. The capacity to be content with these approximations to certainty and the ability to carry on constructive work despite the lack of final confirmation are actually a mark of the scientific habit of mind." -- Sigmund Freud
Usually when people talk about how induction is "flawed," they mean that it's not
truth-preserving like deduction. You don't get certainty from true premises. I.e.: Holding an inductive claim as if it were a series of equivalencies is an error.
I think that the problem of induction is only a problem because: a) Some people look for certainty in it, and b)historically, the problem arose before probability theory was mature. If you don't look for certainty, and you know about modern probability and statistics, the problem of induction is not a problem at all. The whole (deductively-created) theory of probability and statistics is dedicated to telling us something about "populations" from "samples." It's made for induction.
Another possible solution: Can we assume that nature has a Uniformity?
As already mentioned previously, the assumption of a uniformity of nature is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for building inferences from the past to the future. So the assumption is not only circular, it fails to provide a justification for such inferences. In addition, Howson & Urbach point out, assuming a uniformity of nature is doubly a nonsolution, since it's a fairly empty assumption. For how is nature uniform? And what, really, are we talking about. What would really be needed are millions upon millions of uniformity assumptions for each item under discussion. We'd need one for the melting temperature of water, of iron, of nickel, etc, etc. For example "block of ice x will melt at 0 Celsius;" for these types of assumptions actually say something. Furthermore, the uniformity of nature assumptions fall prey to meta-uniformity issues - for how are we to know that nature will always be uniform? Well, we have to assume that too. And how do we know that the uniformity of nature is uniform? Ad infinitum. So, to "solve" the philosphical problem of justifying induction by uniformity of nature solutions doesn't really work.
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I'm afraid I think you've
I'm afraid I think you've got it all wrong. I agree with you that demonstrating the uniformity of nature is not the crux of the problem of induction. The uniformity of nature issue looks at induction from the top down and picks holes in our assumptions. In fact the real issue is just a subset of the doubt Descartes acknowledged but unsuccessfully attempted to overcome. Rather than "how can we show the uniformity of nature?", the real question is "how can we gain knowledge of future events on the basis of past events?"
I think you have, however, misunderstood Bayes' Theorem. The theorem does not allow us to deduce the probabilities of future events on the basis of past events. It is not a recipie that we can use to cook up probabilities from events.It is a mathematical formula showing the relationship between a group of probabilities. If we know the probability of a certain event happening as well as the probability of another event happening, it is possible, in some cases, to use Bayes' Theorem to deduce the probability of another related event. Unfortunately, we're trying to find out what the probabilities are in the first place and Bayes' Theorem cannot tell us that; we need to know the probabilities to being with.
The frequentist interpretation adds nothing at all. It assumes that if a certain event has always happened with a certain probability in the past, we can know that it will happen with the same probability in the future. This assumes the uniormity of nature.
It would be interesting if you could give an examplke of how we may make a logical inference from past events. I do not believe it is possible without making unjustified assumptions.
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Topher
I would be more interested in why Jloll even made the above post. I mean, How did he KNOW when he hit the enter button we would be able to read his words? Why did he bother? Just because this forum existed earlier today, on what basis did he assume it would exist after he hit 'post'?
If induction is irrational then so is his participation here.
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gregfl wrote: Topher
I don't rely on reason to know the truth.
LJoll wrote: gregfl
Care to share your truth finding methods and how you justify them? You mentioned "intuition" before. Care to justify why your intuition allows you to *know* the truth? Has it always, or even usually worked for you? If so, You are using induction to justify your intuition. Amazing.
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gregfl wrote: LJoll
The fact that my intuition has worked in the past isn't using induction to justify my intuition because it isn't my justification. I don't have a rational justification, but I'm not claiming to be rational.
If you make no claim to
If you make no claim to rationality on what basis should I or anyone else reading this take anything you say seriously?
Just how do you justify using your intuition?
If past experience with your intuition is not how you justify its truth finding ability, then on what basis do you trust your intution?
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gregfl wrote: If you make
I don't really care if you personally take me seriously. If you can't accept my argument without a rational justification it will be your own failling.
I do not try to justify the power of my intuition because I know that it works. Most of the things you believe are actually the basis of your intuition. You have simply confused yourself by trying to justify them on the basis of rationality.
LJoll wrote:
The question you keep avoiding is;
HOW DO YOU KNOW IT WORKS?
The answer is actually quite amusing (induction) but I don't suspect you will be admitting that anytime soon.
No, it is you that has confused yourself by using rationality to deny you are rational and by assuming "the power" of your intuition but refusing to acknowledge you do so based on past experience with its success (induction) . You deny induction but use it to post every word you have posted on this forum. Without it you couldn't justify your next breath.
You have committed yourself to an indefensable position and are holding to it dogmatically.
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gregfl wrote: LJoll
I do not deny induction. I do not even doubt it. My knowledge of induction was not gained through any rational method however. There are lots of reasons why I trust my intuitions, however I cannot rationally show that they are correct.
LJoll wrote:I do not deny
This, pulled from the other induction thread, is your denial:
"I am arguing that induction is completely logically unfounded, so you have no excuse to pretend your knowledge is ultimately rational."
Since you now are saying you don't doubt induction but you have knowledge of induction working, could you please explain on what basis you have this knowledge? If you say 'intuition', explain how you can trust your intuition without invoking induction. If you can't, maybe this will help you see the philosophical corner you have backed yourself into.
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gregfl wrote: LJoll
The fact that a belief in it is not rational does not mean it is untrue. I believe that the future will resemble the past, but not on the basis of reason. I don't have a rational reason why I trust my intuitions. I just do. I cannot show you that they're correct. You have to decide for youself whether you want to rely on intuitions, although you don't really have much choice.
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LJoll wrote: gregfl
Assuming that you were really relying on intuition to get you thru the day, then you would have a rational reason to rely on it or not. It would be the inductive process. If you intuition was letting you down more then it was working, then you would no longer trust it.
You deny this simple fact because it reductos your argument.
I think your argument fails somewhere in your definition of rational. Rationality does not require absolute certainty it merely means the ability to think using and embracing reason. Your very survival, today, depends on your ability to make rational choices. When you deny you are rational, you deny the very essence of who and what you are as a human.
I am bailing on this thread because if you cannot agree you are capable of rationality, we cannot talk in any meaningfull way. Thank you for the polite exchange.
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gregfl wrote: Assuming
What could I possibly change to if my intuition was getting it wrong all the time? I'd simply have to hope my intuitions adapt, which they would. When you act emotionally and intuitively you can still react and adapt to outside events.
What do you consider makes an actiona rational? How can I disthinguish a rational act from an irrational act?
If you do not want to reply to this post, thank you too.