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RationalResponseSquad's picture

See these applicable threads for Operation Spread Eagle:

If you only read one post about this issue make make it this one!

Open letter to Youtube from Brian Sapient. Pass this video on

Post your youtube censorship or copyright infringement stories here. (also how to do a counter notice).

Kent Hovind from Jail Phone Calls

Eric Hovind writes RRS (still hasn't written back!)

Indirect hit in "Operation Spread Eagle" sablechicken was pwned. Oh also we defended her free speech and gave her a free pass on some slander. Eddygoombah letter to CSE The first Christian (we know of) to come forward and support atheists on copyright abuse!! (he recently beat Viacom on a familiar issue!) Thanks! More information on his case.

They Pulled Your Account!

They Pulled You YouTube Account now...The Rational Responce one! I can't believe what lengths they are going to?!

 

I bet they don't watch the videos... If they did, then they know what theyre up against and they would know better than to incite further action! 

WizardJim's picture

Oh no you didn't...

By the sweet, hairy bitchtits of zeus they have gone too far, too far I say!

 

I declare ATHEIST JIHAD!

AaronZZZ's picture

DIRTY Bastardos

This is the mentality of these people. They think they can do what they want. I say lets nailem to the cross they worship. Teach these people they cant do what they want. If this is how they behave they all belong in prison with kent!!

Disgusting

This makes me sick.

Everyone spread the word, people need to know whats going on.

Raki's picture

I just posted the last video

I just posted the last video that RRS put up before their account got closed. Hopefully others will hear about this and respond accordingly.

wavefreak's picture

GAH!   Stupid theists. 

GAH!

 

Stupid theists. 

Those motherfuckers need a

{Mod edit - removed violence promoting comment}

Sadzaeater's picture

YouTube Policy

This is bollocks. There's a movement within the British media to make YouTube more accountable for the video content available within it. This is part of the reaction to the brutal and apparently random shooting of a young kid up in Liverpool. Gangs there have for some time been posting videos that glorify gang violence and criminal activity. Further to this, there is a campaign building to force YouTube to review its screening process as more and more videos get posted of kids beating the shit out of one another.

YouTube & Google have repeatedly stated that they have every faith in their current process, despite various failed attempts by journalists and others to have content that involves violence against children by children removed by flagging as inappropriate.

I really liked Google when they came onto the scene. Their non-conformist business plan and non-corporate ideals fit very well with my own, but it would seem that since going public, the MBA's voices are getting louder as they do have to comply with US legislation dictating that a company should be run with the financial wellbeing of its shareholders as its priority as opposed to its customers and the general public.

Thus the threat of a copyright suit against them by a bunch of bullshit-mongering bible-bashers appears to wield more leverage than a secular campaign by journalists and concerned parents.

Methinks a lawmaker there needs to review Nash's Equilibrium (or watch that Russel Crowe movie if math & economics are too boring. There's no breast action in the flick, but it's still watchable.)

It is incredibly dissapointing that YouTube & Google are beginning to conform to the same model as Hollywood. Unfortunatley, it is the most profitable way to squeeze a mass market for money, and as a publicly traded company, they are legally obliged to make as much profit as they can.

What we as individuals need to do is to use the social mechanisms at our disposal to counter the lust for profit and give absolute capitalism a conscience. It's a struggle that has been waged throughout the history of Western democracy and long may it continue, so post post post post.

Sapient's picture

Nice post Sadzeater.  In

Nice post Sadzeater.  In our next video we'll be mentioning some other video sites worthy of trying.  In addition to that we will have a never heard story and explanation as to why the Richard Dawkins account was banned, and why it is not back up.  You will become extremely suspicious of a bias at youtube that is anti-atheist. 

I can't release details yet as we wait for clearance from one person.  But we'll have the story soon in video form to be copied everywhere again.  

Counter Notice?

So I just got here by way of a link on Slashdot - they discussed this last week (or maybe it was Engadget?) about how people don't realize they can submit Counter Notice and remove YouTube as a mediator in these little DMCA 'spats'. I was just wondering if the RRS had submitted Counter Notice so that they could get their videos back up? If everything is really Fair Use in the videos, it should be a null issue. There's a nice template for the DMCA Counter Notice here:

 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Terrorism/form-letter.html

 It's a thought. I don't know everything that's going on, but since I didn't see something along the lines of 'Well, the videos are back up, but we need to approach this from a legal angle now' instead of all the 'we should nail these christians to the cross they worship' talk that I AM seeing...

madeleine10's picture

Ugh!

This just makes me want to puke!  They really have gone too far on this one; I do believe this is war, my friends.  Those fundie sickos really do deserve to go to their own hell, if they believe in it so much.

 They have so much faith in their invisible friend in the sky, but that faith is so flimsy that they seem to be afraid that it will break if they so much as catch a whiff of another point of view in the world.  That's what really pisses me off.

BenfromCanada's picture

How to EFFECTIVELY protest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPTIXVEe0Ng

 

Click the link. I would embed, but the important part is in the description. 

Sapient's picture

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Negative comments about Extantdodo existed in this post however I have deleted them, as Extantdodo agreed to file a counterclaim! 

 

YAHOO!  Thanks Extantdodo for doing the right thing and not cowering in fear to these dimwits. 

 

Sapient's picture

continuous chatter

Negative comments about Extantdodo existed in this post however I have deleted them, as Extantdodo agreed to file a counterclaim! 

 

YAHOO!  Thanks Extantdodo for doing the right thing and not cowering in fear to these dimwits.

 

BenfromCanada's picture

Where did you hear that

Where did you hear that they won't file a lawsuit?

Also, putting your links in the sidebar wouldn't go with the theme of the video. The video was about who to contact to get help in exposing CSE. If the video was a "thank you" for all the support and you guys weren't mentioned, then I'd join you in your anger, but in this case there was no reason to mention you. After all, everyone already knows you're helping out, so there's no reason to contact you guys to get you to help.

Advice: You should take up your issues with ExtantDodo privately. If a division is seen, especially over something so small, it will not help anyone or anything, and in fact, will give our opponents strength. TogetherForPeace just made a video trashing you guys. If he saw this, he'd have more ammunition, and he has a large audience. I know he's not the only one trying to turn people against the RRS. And, again, I think we should all fire off a few e-mails to the groups they linked. I wrote one that I copy-and-pasted to all groups they linked, and it wouldn't take long for any one of us to do so for ourselves. While wired and slashdot are good places to get some internet publicity, I think PFAW and UNESCO would push this into the mainstream, and get all videos replaced, as well as the last free Hovind put in jail, very fast.

Sapient's picture

Quote: Where did you hear

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Where did you hear that they won't file a lawsuit?

Two sources had said they heard he wasn't willing to sue because their names would get out there. When I sued Geller, I knew my name would get out there, and I had said the principle of this issue was too important to be silent for. Then principle of it this time feels larger than before, and let's be honest, Extant Dodo faces less threat than I do.

Shenaningans!

 

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Also, putting your links in the sidebar wouldn't go with the theme of the video. The video was about who to contact to get help in exposing CSE.

That would be us. Without our site the public outcry for this wouldn't have gotten this far. People were segmented last week when the take down notices came, we gathered them up, made sure they all knew we'd be working together, and extantdodo is mysteriously off our allies list.

Our site is in fact the place to get the most up to date info on this case and what to do about it, including massive resposting of relevant videos which expose CSE activity. Three videos released over the next week or two will be offered for repost here, and will help ensure the media picks this story up. Yes, we've got media calls already.

He lists the EFF on the list. Does he not realize that they are already representing me? Adding them to the list does little good, unless you're goal is to clog their system with unneccesary phone calls. I of course am not at liberty to discuss private conversations with my lawyer or I could give more info. (which is the same way that this has been from the get go, and will continue to be).

At the ed of his links he states...

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ow, stop chanting "Rabble, rabble." Everybody, grab a broom; "Shenanigans" has been declared.

If you know of any other groups/organizations dedicated to the preservation of free speech, help us get their contact information added to the list

Well considering speaking out is our only goal right now, and word on the street is that extantdodo is too scared to sue because his name will get out, than I'd think we're highly relevant, and his video is merely a means to get others to do what he/they are unwilling to do.

Say you don't think our link is relevant if you will, but keep in mind, when we spread a meme (aka Blasphemy Challenge) our efforts are performed in such a way that we'll have the lawyers and the press calling you, rather than you needed to have a link to here, which will do nothing more than waste your time.

I think our harshness came a few hours ago at the hands of sleep deprivation, I just slept an hour, and started my day, so I hope that's not still the case. I was careful to mention that I respect the past work of extant dodo in a seperate place that I spoke up.

 

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If the video was a "thank you" for all the support and you guys weren't mentioned, then I'd join you in your anger, but in this case there was no reason to mention you. After all, everyone already knows you're helping out, so there's no reason to contact you guys to get you to help.

If he/they in fact want CSE taken to task on our finds, then we are needed. We are helping by spreading the word about these videos and offering a repository for people to download them and reupload them. This action alone will spread the word and be more fruitful than any one phone call to anyone on that list.

 

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Advice: You should take up your issues with ExtantDodo privately.

Great advice. I did in fact contact him/it and I've received no response. Letting it get out in the public, hoping he'd read it is my only means of knowing he/she will get the message. (whoa... irony)

I would love to remove all of the negative statements I made about Extantdodo over the last few days, just as soon as he responds to this letter by telling me that he'll sue, and adds me to the list of people who are protecting him and dozens of others on his "links" section.

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Brian Sapient replying to an email from ExtantDodo on evening of 9-14.

As you can see our homepage has become a repository for the world of Kent:
www.rationalresponders.com

We have mentioned your videos. I have to say, as much as I respect everything you've done, I think you must counter notify, and be prepared to sue. I heard your security concerns and I think you must speak up. Please I beg of you, counter notify, and prepare to sue. I'm not saying you have to sue, but at least be prepared to if they object to your counter notification. They'll have 14 days to respond, and your account will be back up in 15 if all goes well.

- Brian Sapient

 

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If a division is seen, especially over something so small, it will not help anyone or anything, and in fact, will give our opponents strength.

You may be right. In our case however we get told often that our agenda is simply anti-religious. I think it at least says a little something that we have integrity to call out atheists here and there as well. I try to do it in only extreme circumstances, when the atheist is making such a large mistake, that it warrants criticism. This is a mistake of incompetent proportions.

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TogetherForPeace just made a video trashing you guys. If he saw this, he'd have more ammunition, and he has a large audience.

I don't think he'll be making another video about this issue. When I saw his video on this issue, I realized he had no clue as to the facts of this story. I called him and spoke with him for an hour. He was surprised to hear this call was genuine, and not being recorded. This was part of my fight for people like ExtantDodo. I called Jack, a man who I don't like, who admittedly looks to discredit us anyway he can, and spoke for an hour about this issue to him.

I essentially had debunked his whole video and walked away the bigger man when I told him he could leave the video there, I wasn't looking for an apology, etc. I merely wanted him to know how wrong he was, so he didn't make the mistake in subsequent videos.

This division I don't think is one he'll report on.

 

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I know he's not the only one trying to turn people against the RRS.

I know. Interesting tidbit: The people trying to turn people against the RRS often due the exact opposite.

 

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And, again, I think we should all fire off a few e-mails to the groups they linked. I wrote one that I copy-and-pasted to all groups they linked, and it wouldn't take long for any one of us to do so for ourselves. While wired and slashdot are good places to get some internet publicity, I think PFAW and UNESCO would push this into the mainstream, and get all videos replaced, as well as the last free Hovind put in jail, very fast.

I hope you're right. I support other peoples work in this issue.

 

Could everyone start firing off emails to extantdodo on youtube imploring them to counter notify and be prepared to counter sue if need be? That's the proper means of attack here. Counter Sue!

RabidApe and Chrisboe4ever... thanks so much for your courage, hopefully extantdodo will follow your lead. Both have filed counterclaims.

 

 

Eddy Goombah's "Letter to the CSE" song

Hello RRS. Longtime accountholder... first time poster.

 

I've done up an animated video for Eddy Goombah's song, "Letter to the CSE".

 

Check it out...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkLevG4cOSE

 

Nice to be aboard. Smiling

 

Theists, All out of mind butter.

This seems to be mearly an extension of their own internal ethic.  If something is scary then just close your eyes realllly tight and hope it goes away.  These troglidites are so intellectually sociopathic they can't even taste the venom in their crooked fangs!

Letter to CSE (now with eye burning 3D Kent Hovind dancing)