This should be on every bible

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This should be on every bible

Says the group that supports

Says the group that supports Charles Darwin that birthed the ideologies of Hitler that tried to wipe out people that were not completely evolved from apes in the same manner as the islam extremist groups.  Interesting. 

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The idealogies of Hitler,

The idealogies of Hitler, especially the anti-semitism, were birthed by the Roman Catholic Church and Martin Luther, you ignorant twit!

His desires to conquer the world are as old as Genghis Khan, who also didn't need Darwin to inspire his atrocities.

Hitler may have used some crude interpretation of the 'survival of the fittest' idea, a phrase which Darwin didn't like when a friend came up with it, to justify his anti-semitism, but that ancient hatred of the Jews has nothing to do with Darwin or 'Darwinism'.

Darwin gave us insight into the nature of our world.

His theories gave birth to modern biology, and massively contributed to our understanding of disease, in the way micro-organisms evolve, and to genetics, which is opening so many possibilities of addressing other forms of affliction.

Xtians, and other followers of the magic books, are by necessity experts at twisting and re-interpreting words and phrases. It's they only way they can play down the nasty stuff in the actual words of the books. 

They don't necessarily do it consciously, but their emotional attachment to their belief system drives them to find some way to gloss over the contradictions and atrocities. The more 'intelligent' they are, the fancier are the arguments they come up with to obscure the evil nonsense.  

Hence the need for the warning sticker   thumbs up .

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PWNED!

PWNED!

BobSpence1 wrote: The

BobSpence1 wrote:

The idealogies of Hitler, especially the anti-semitism, were birthed by the Roman Catholic Church and Martin Luther, you ignorant twit!

His desires to conquer the world are as old as Genghis Khan, who also didn't need Darwin to inspire his atrocities.

Hitler may have used some crude interpretation of the 'survival of the fittest' idea, a phrase which Darwin didn't like when a friend came up with it, to justify his anti-semitism, but that ancient hatred of the Jews has nothing to do with Darwin or 'Darwinism'.

Darwin gave us insight into the nature of our world.

His theories gave birth to modern biology, and massively contributed to our understanding of disease, in the way micro-organisms evolve, and to genetics, which is opening so many possibilities of addressing other forms of affliction.

Xtians, and other followers of the magic books, are by necessity experts at twisting and re-interpreting words and phrases. It's they only way they can play down the nasty stuff in the actual words of the books.

They don't necessarily do it consciously, but their emotional attachment to their belief system drives them to find some way to gloss over the contradictions and atrocities. The more 'intelligent' they are, the fancier are the arguments they come up with to obscure the evil nonsense.

Hence the need for the warning sticker thumbs up .

 

Hey dumbass, having a family that had you in a catholic household doesn't make you catholic.  Your bullshit is fantaistically incorrect.  Hitler himself hated catholics, christians jews etc.  He killed all of them in his concentration camps.  At one of his speeches he even said:  I regard christianity as the most fatal seductive lie that ever existed. 

 His whole hatred and paranoia towards other races was sparked from a classroom study regarding evolution and drawings from the scientist that had darwin as his protege.  

From Darwin's book:  At some future period  not very distant as measured by the centuries, the civilized  races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world

 

and hilter....:  I have the right to exterminate an inferior race that breed like vermin. 

 Of course you would know this if you ever got your head out of your you know what and stopped using wikipedia as your absolute truth to everything.  

 

Pwned?  wow, someone needs a girlfriend bad. 

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drdoubleu wrote: Says the

drdoubleu wrote:
Says the group that supports Charles Darwin that birthed the ideologies of Hitler that tried to wipe out people that were not completely evolved from apes in the same manner as the islam extremist groups. Interesting.

If iyo're talking about Eugenics, that wasn't Darwin. His distant cousin, Francis Galton, yes. Darwin never subscribed to Eugenics. He did see some logic in it, but never subscribed to itby any means.

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Hey, where are all those

Hey, where are all those pictures of Hitler attending church when you need them? Until then, some quotes from the Jew-hater himself:

The following six Adolf Hitler quotes are included here to show that he was in fact Christian and not, as many Christians have claimed, an atheist. For more information, see Hitler's Religious Beliefs and Fanaticism (off-site).

"I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal." --Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"I thank Heaven that a portion of the memories of those days still remains with me. Woods and meadows were the battlefields on which the 'conflicts' which exist everywhere in life were decided." --Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"...God have mercy!" --Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but from time to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought. At all events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the man and the movement, which in those days guided Vienna's destinies: Dr. Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party." --Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"How many of my basic principles were upset by this change in my attitude toward the Christian Social movement! My views with regard to anti-Semitism thus succumbed to the passage of time, and this was my greatest transformation of all."--Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."-- Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)...and also...
"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."--Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936

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I'd also like to point out Mel Gibson's anti-semitism...where do you think it came from? (Hint: he's a Catholic.) During Brahms' lifetime, the great composer saw the coming anti-semitic problem and rebuked it strongly. (Brahms, BTW, was a freethinker.) If we go even further back, anti-semitism was rampant during Elizabethan times (see Measure for Measure by William Shakespeare). It certainly didn't suddenly arrive on the scene with Darwin.

Google "roots of anti-semitism" to get a full picture. There are both religious and secular roots. (I'd actually like to have a look at that myself.)

On edit: here are those pictures of Hitler attending church. Yeah, he sure hated Catholics and Lutherans (his most vociferous supporters): http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

On further edit: Consider yourself pwned. 

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Oh, BTW, I just thought I'd

Oh, BTW, I just thought I'd mention a little thing called the Spanish Inquisition. You might want to look it up someday. Jews were tortured by the Catholic Church for their unbelief.

Also, you might look up a little treatise by Martin Luther entitled, "The Jews and Their Lies." We're talking about the Martin Luther who started the Reformation (Protestantism) by nailing a paper to the Wittenburg door.

Luther wrote: "But since I learned that these miserable and accursed people do not cease to lure to themselves even us, that is, the Christians, I have published this little book, so that I might be found among those who opposed such poisonous activities of the Jews who warned the Christians to be on their guard against them. I would not have believed that a Christian could be duped by the Jews into taking their exile and wretchedness upon himself. However, the devil is the god of the world, and wherever God's word is absent he has an easy task, not only with the weak but also with the strong. May God help us. Amen."

I wonder

Iruka Naminori wrote:

Oh, BTW, I just thought I'd mention a little thing called the Spanish Inquisition. You might want to look it up someday. Jews were tortured by the Catholic Church for their unbelief.

 

I wonder what would have happened if there so called lord turned up during that time?

 

Do you think they stuck him back on his cross?

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Iruka Naminori wrote:Oh,

Iruka Naminori wrote:

Oh, BTW, I just thought I'd mention a little thing called the Spanish Inquisition. You might want to look it up someday. Jews were tortured by the Catholic Church for their unbelief.

Funny you should mention that.  When doing research of my family genealogy, the records came to a dead halt at 1517, with a baptismal record.  This has lead us to believe that my family originated from someone that was "convinced" to convert to the catholic church during the inquisition.  I personally shudder to think of "how" he was "convinced."

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http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/arti

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005206

 

 

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
 
The Catholic Center party was a pillar of the Weimar Republic. It had in general resisted the Nazi rise to power, although the right wing of the party was led by politicians at least willing to tolerate a Hitler government. Once Hitler became chancellor in January 1933, the Center party supported measures giving him dictatorial power. On July 5, 1933, the Center party--under intense Nazi pressure--dissolved itself (the other remaining political parties had been banned earlier that spring and summer).

 

 

The Catholic church in Germany was controlled by the Vatican, under the leadership of Pope Pius XI, and signed a Concordat (Treaty) with the German Reich 15 days later. The Concordat confirmed the dissolution of German Catholicism's trade unions and political organizations, but guaranteed the church traditional rights to cultivate and promote the practice of the Catholic rite, to maintain Catholic schools, and to appoint Catholic clergy. Many provisions of the agreement were promptly violated, however, as the Nazis persecuted Jesuits, Catholic Action (a religious and social movement), and various other Catholic organizations.

After enduring anti-church actions for several years, in 1937 Pope Pius XI issued the encyclical Mit brennender Sorge (With Burning Concern). In the encyclical, Pius XI criticized Nazi philosophy and warned the German government to fulfill the terms of the Concordat. The Nazis responded with a wave of priest trials--prosecutions of clergy for various alleged infractions.

 

 

 

 

Hitler was a Catholic

Some more quotes by Hitler that apparently you are unaware of:

“By defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord”.

“I am now, as before, a Catholic and will always remain so.”

Hitler never formally renounced his Catholocism and in fact used it to gain power in in post WW-I Germany. Anti-Semitism has always been a part of Christian tradition and it was easy to scapegoat (blaming one group for the problems of another, another reoccuring theme in the Bible, by the way) the relatively well off Jews for the economic depression.

 

Something tells me that Hitler's indoctrination into Catholicism from an early age in a time period where modern science as we know it was still in its infancy, its multiple references to genocide being sanctioned by god, and its strict guidelines against inter-racial mingling had more of an impact on his mind than a some classroom study about genetics. In fact, Hitler was not a very good student, but he was a great genocidal maniac. Your god would have approved of him handsdown, just like your church did.

 

Please keep your ignorance to a minimum here; save it for church.

 

P.S. - Wikipedia is not infallible, you're absolutely right. But at least they work hard every day to correct mistakes and ensure factual evidence. You base you're entire life and world views on an ancient story book that contains almost no historical fact and completely contradicts itself left and right. The bible is not infallible either, it doesn't even makes sense most of the time.

 

Stickers

Are these stickers available anywhere for people to purchase?  I would be willing to use a sticker like this.  How about you?

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Cpt_pineapple

Cpt_pineapple wrote:

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005206

 

 

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
 
The Catholic Center party was a pillar of the Weimar Republic. It had in general resisted the Nazi rise to power, although the right wing of the party was led by politicians at least willing to tolerate a Hitler government. Once Hitler became chancellor in January 1933, the Center party supported measures giving him dictatorial power. On July 5, 1933, the Center party--under intense Nazi pressure--dissolved itself (the other remaining political parties had been banned earlier that spring and summer).

 

 

 

The Catholic church in Germany was controlled by the Vatican, under the leadership of Pope Pius XI, and signed a Concordat (Treaty) with the German Reich 15 days later. The Concordat confirmed the dissolution of German Catholicism's trade unions and political organizations, but guaranteed the church traditional rights to cultivate and promote the practice of the Catholic rite, to maintain Catholic schools, and to appoint Catholic clergy. Many provisions of the agreement were promptly violated, however, as the Nazis persecuted Jesuits, Catholic Action (a religious and social movement), and various other Catholic organizations.

After enduring anti-church actions for several years, in 1937 Pope Pius XI issued the encyclical Mit brennender Sorge (With Burning Concern). In the encyclical, Pius XI criticized Nazi philosophy and warned the German government to fulfill the terms of the Concordat. The Nazis responded with a wave of priest trials--prosecutions of clergy for various alleged infractions.

 

 

 

 

So the Catholic Church assisted Hitler in his rise to power then got miffed when he didn't cut them in the promised power-sharing agreement. Their disagreement with Hitler was in the nature of a business partner cut out of a deal, not a morally horrified observer. One can only speculate what would have happened if the paranoid Hitler had been more able to tolerate rival political powers in Germany. Perhaps the Nazis and the Catholic Center party could have marched arm-in-arm into the Holocaust. Certainly the prior history of the Church to that point would have suggested such an outcome.

In any event, none of the above suggests that Hitler was anything other than a Catholic. Catholic leaders have been getting into political spats with the Vatican since the Church was founded.

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Tilberian wrote:So the

Tilberian wrote:

So the Catholic Church assisted Hitler in his rise to power then got miffed when he didn't cut them in the promised power-sharing agreement. Their disagreement with Hitler was in the nature of a business partner cut out of a deal, not a morally horrified observer. One can only speculate what would have happened if the paranoid Hitler had been more able to tolerate rival political powers in Germany. Perhaps the Nazis and the Catholic Center party could have marched arm-in-arm into the Holocaust. Certainly the prior history of the Church to that point would have suggested such an outcome.

 

errrrrrr... using that logic........

 

Molotov-Ribbentrop pact anyone?

 

Thanks atheists!

 

Oh yeah and the confession church?

 

 

 

Quote:

In any event, none of the above suggests that Hitler was anything other than a Catholic. Catholic leaders have been getting into political spats with the Vatican since the Church was founded.

 

I never said Hitler wasn't Catholic.

 

 

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Cpt_pineapple

Cpt_pineapple wrote:

Molotov-Ribbentrop pact anyone?

 

Thanks atheists!

I think the line you were searching for is "thanks Soviets." See, atheism is very much a side aspect of Communism, and not even a necessary one. Whereas Catholicism is the only reason the Vatican exists.

Using your logic, I could get real mad at anyone wearing a big hat because of the Spanish Inquisition.

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BobSpence1 wrote:Hitler may

BobSpence1 wrote:

Hitler may have used some crude interpretation of the 'survival of the fittest' idea, a phrase which Darwin didn't like when a friend came up with it, to justify his anti-semitism, but that ancient hatred of the Jews has nothing to do with Darwin or 'Darwinism'.

I believe Herbert Spencer was the first to coin the phrase "survival of the fittest" and not Francis Galton. It's even believed that the ideas of Thomas Malthus, an anglical clergyman in the early 1800s, inspired Herbert Spencer. Malthus wrote several essays, entitled the "Essay on the Principle of Population". Malthus's idea of man's "struggle for existence" may have inspired Darwin to some extent. Malthus recognized the struggles between the classes, however Malthus must have been inspired by someone else too.