Supermassive Black Holes - A Discovery Channel documentary

Supermassive Black Holes -- 43 min 46 sec

A supermassive black hole is a black hole with a mass in the range of hundreds of thousands to tens of billions of solar masses. It is currently thought that most, if not all galaxies, including the Milky Way, contain a supermassive black hole at their galactic center.


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todangst's picture

Black holes and galaxies

Very interesting. They demonstrate good evidence of the existence of black holes in every galaxy that they have looked at. This shows that every galaxy has a black hole.

They present strong evidence for a correlation between the speed of the outer stars of a galaxy, and the black hole that is now thought to be within the center of every galaxy. The theory is that the speed could only be correlated to the size of the black hole if the matter in the stars was once in contact with the black hole.

So there is now strong evidence that galaxies form through an initial formation of a black hole. First, gas collides and collapses into a black hole. Then the hole sucks up all the matter within reach. Eventually, it pushes off the rest of the matter of the galaxy, and this matter turns into stars, which in turn turn into higher elements, planets, and in our case, life.

So every thing started out as black holes. Some of the holes become dorminant as the suck up everything near them, others are active, when matter approaches.

We can now determine the size of a black hole in a galaxy, by at least two processes: the first, - black holes appear to be 1/2 of a percent of the size of the galaxy they reside in. Two: the speed of the outer stars are faster the larger the size of the black hole.

We now have a good idea of how galaxies formed.

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GodStoleMyFriends's picture

Very interesting documentary

Very interesting documentary and I agree with todangst that it presented good evidence for the existence of supermassive black holes in all galaxies.

However...

I think the documentary was a little over dramatic... Eye-wink Great use of music from the films "Predator" and "Aliens" though. Also, I can now say that I've seen extremely dramatic music come to a shattering climax as a scientist writes "-1" on a chalkboard.

"If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss Bank."-Woody Allen

"Atheism is life affirming in a way religion can never be."-Richard Dawkins

AImboden's picture

scientists rival theism in terms of uselessness

That has got to be the most expensive bit of useless information I have ever contemplated.

music extremely annoying

the music could not be more distracting and inappropriate. whoever is responsible for the soundtrack should be fired (or shot). at least the annoying music is a distraction from the useless information. seriously - 2 minutes on wikipedia vs 1 hour of drawn out bland redundancy aimed to babysit subhumans with bad stock animations.

allow me to sum up the documentary:

announcer: black holes...
music: ahhhhhhhh.....!
animation: cheap intern attempt at animation made in ms-paint

announcer: super and massive, holes...
music: AHHHHHHHH!!!
animation: sock puppets spinning a frisbee painted like stars

announcer: turns out we don't have any answers to give you
music: AHSDFHWOEIHFAKDSFH...!!! <-- music creates its own black hole

the end.

 

f* discovery and science channel

response to disbelief in God

 It's impossilble to prove that something doesn't exist. I have had personal experiences with God, and you cannot deny those and tell me I made them up. So, everything in the universe happened by accident? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I don't believe that God created the world out of nothing but I do believe that he was the guiding force behind the big bang. I think people (both believers and non) who believe in only one or the other are retarded. Why is it that someone has to believe that God created the universe but they can't also believe in the Big Bang or visa versa? I am of sound mind and faith and I believe that both of these events occurred.

 

 

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Anonymoussdtrghj

Anonymoussdtrghj wrote:

 It's impossilble to prove that something doesn't exist. I have had personal experiences with God, and you cannot deny those and tell me I made them up. So, everything in the universe happened by accident? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I don't believe that God created the world out of nothing but I do believe that he was the guiding force behind the big bang. I think people (both believers and non) who believe in only one or the other are retarded. Why is it that someone has to believe that God created the universe but they can't also believe in the Big Bang or visa versa? I am of sound mind and faith and I believe that both of these events occurred.

 

 

I call driveby. Driveby by a brainless idiot who doesn't have the intellect to hang around and debate his stupidity no less.

My reasoning is that this post is quite pathetically of the derailment kind, as opposed to a new topic or response in a more recently active one. Not to mention that the topic has nothing to do with this response. I'm sure someone was google searching something, found this, and felt it necessary to make an ass of themselves. Congrats, you succeeded.

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butterbattle's picture

Anonymoussdtrghj

Anonymoussdtrghj wrote:

 It's impossilble to prove that something doesn't exist.

Well, actually, it's not.

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I have had personal experiences with God, and you cannot deny those and tell me I made them up.

P1 - God was in my room last night.

P2 - Seriously!

C1- Therefore, God exists.

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So, everything in the universe happened by accident?

No.

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That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I agree.

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I don't believe that God created the world out of nothing

Good.

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but I do believe that he was the guiding force behind the big bang.

And why do you think that?

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I think people (both believers and non) who believe in only one or the other are retarded.

Really?

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Why is it that someone has to believe that God created the universe but they can't also believe in the Big Bang or visa versa?

Why does someone have to believe in both?

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I am of sound mind and faith

You'd need to make a few posts for me to sure, but right now, I'm somewhat skeptical.

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and I believe that both of these events occurred.

And why do you believe that?

 

 

Our revels now are ended. These our actors, | As I foretold you, were all spirits, and | Are melted into air, into thin air; | And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, | The cloud-capped towers, the gorgeous palaces, | The solemn temples, the great globe itself, - Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve, | And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, | Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff | As dreams are made on, and our little life | Is rounded with a sleep. - Shakespeare

thank you for this

thank you for this video

 

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Brainless Idiot

Most on this site are using false logic.  Just because the Universe 
evolves in ways that are presented in the documentary does bu no means 
translate to no God.  Didn't you ever stop to think that it is God that 
made all of this happen?  Get a clue.  You can have an opinion but it 
does not prove your thesis.  You are truly the brainless idiot for thinking 
only your opinion can be right.  Just the fact that you think an atheist 
can be enlightened is foolish.  You are darkened.  You are a disgrace to smart Canadians.

 

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PhilP wrote:Didn't you ever

PhilP wrote:
Didn't you ever stop to think that it is God that made all of this happen?

Yes, and I concluded that there was no good reason or evidence for it.

PhilP wrote:
Get a clue.

Get some evidence.

PhilP wrote:
Just the fact that you think an atheist can be enlightened is foolish.

Yeah, like this statement. This needs some explanation and evidence.

 

Our revels now are ended. These our actors, | As I foretold you, were all spirits, and | Are melted into air, into thin air; | And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, | The cloud-capped towers, the gorgeous palaces, | The solemn temples, the great globe itself, - Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve, | And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, | Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff | As dreams are made on, and our little life | Is rounded with a sleep. - Shakespeare