Secularists on the march?

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An interesting newspaper column I rang across today.

(Quote)Which is why a new word has suddenly entered this year’s political lexicon: “secular.” As in, “secular Republicans,” or, more generally, “secular voters.” Non-moonbats, in other words. For the GOP, it means voters for whom snakes are not part of their Sunday-morning religious services. For the Democrats, it means voters who don’t believe that 9/11 was a Bush-Cheney-Halliburton plot.(/Quote)

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This actually gives me something that I haven't had in a long time regarding American politics, hope. Could it be that American political discourse will reverse from the extremists of both sides shouting at one another? Time can only tell.

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This undercurrent is

This undercurrent is blatantly obvious and is catching on, but unfortunatly doesnt get much national press. The Godspeek is still rampant in both parties presidential campains. Both the Republican and Democratic cannidates are trying to replicate the Bush Jr success of invoking Jesus.

What the lemmings on both sides of the isle have been consistantly and falsely sold is that "secular" is bad and evil, when quite the oposite is true. Iran is a sectarian Muslim run government where non Shiites and non-Muslims have little to no voice in government.

But you are right, a Republican and Democrat, atheist and Christian can both be "secular".....meaning the idea that on the issue of religion government should take a hands off aproach and leave it up to the individual.

It is way past time to reverse the 40 year push of the Evangelical right wing who has basterdized the history of our secular Constitution, hijacking it to be Jesus written. I too have hope in the growing backlash to fundementalism in America. I think the worst mistake Evangelicas did was to put such an incompatant boob in the whitehouse just because the moron uttered "Jesus".

Our Consitution is not owned by Christians or atheists or Jews. It is a neutral template there for the use and partisipation of all citizens and there is no "entitlement" for Christianity to claim ownership to the secular document that protects the freedom of all.

It is nice to see more recognition of reality in media. But it needs to be on nightly national news and all cable news stations. People need a civics lesson that is neutral not taught in a Sunday school with dogmatic revisionist glasses.

It is time for all citizens, theists and atheist alike, to take this country back away from theocrats seeking to impose biblical law on all. We are not Iran or Saudi Arabia and I am sick and tired of fearmongers selling the bullshit that secularists want to opress religion, when secularists can be religious themselves.

This is our country and it is not the property of Jesus, or Allah, or Christopher Hitchens. We must educate the public on what the Constitution says, not what Evangelical zealots seeking to monopolize political power.

To my dying day I will speek out against attempts, all attempts to base common law on any holy book. I will fight against those who would seek to sell dogmatic lies of "entitlement" that place all others outside the label at the back of the bus.

America is not just for Christians anymore. It is up to the secular Christian, Jew and atheist to demand that our goverment get back to it's neutral position and focus on common intrests such as fuel costs, health care, boarder problems, education and environment.

It is my country too and I will not allow any Christian to claim I must take a back seat to them just because they claim that Jesus owns our government. Noone owns my brain, and no god owns our Consitution. The Constitution was written by men and was not magically handed down from the sky.

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Brian37 wrote: It is way

Brian37 wrote:

It is way past time to reverse the 40 year push of the Evangelical right wing who has basterdized the history of our secular Constitution, hijacking it to be Jesus written. I too have hope in the growing backlash to fundementalism in America.

40 years? I thought the evangelical movement took off in the early 80s with regean? 

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Zombie wrote: Brian37

Zombie wrote:
Brian37 wrote:

It is way past time to reverse the 40 year push of the Evangelical right wing who has basterdized the history of our secular Constitution, hijacking it to be Jesus written. I too have hope in the growing backlash to fundementalism in America.

40 years? I thought the evangelical movement took off in the early 80s with regean?

Attempts at theocracies have popped up perioditically throughout our history. But, what set off the Evangelicas happened way before Regan. They got pissed because the Supreme Court rightfully said you cant use teachers of public schools to prostilitize. Prayer has not been taken out of school dispite the bullshit the right would sell you. The Supreme Court said that the school could not lead prayer or favor one religion over another.

They also got pissed that the Supreme Court rightfully said that a woman's body is not the property of government and the right to chose. Those combo of two issues throughout the 60s and 70s lead to the orgainization that lead to the ellection of Reagan and the distruction of the old Republican party, which was not religious, but quite secular.

Republicans today resemble a theocratic party on social issues, much like Shiites in Iran, and Sunni's in Saudi Arabia. They used to be for limited government and low taxes. Republicans today are for big government handouts to big business and big government wealfare for Christian Charities.

They were much closer to the constitution as far 60 years ago and today are more like the dogmatic tribalistic collonies before the Revolution.

This move by the evangelcal right wing started in the 60s and it's first politicall success was Regan. It has taken 27 years for America to start waking up to the scam the right wing is selling. But the underground movement was much older. 

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