More proof of a broken system and terrible leadership

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Obamacare, or the AHA, has been under fire since its conception. The GOP and the right wing agenda has been to make it not work. Remember this. They are working to make it NOT WORK.

Since Drumpf has been in power, he has done every thing he can to make it not work including telling the IRS not to pay out and to not enforce the AHA option. The part about not paying out to insurance companies has made it not profitable which is an example of the stupidity of Drumpf when it comes to protecting the American citizen.

Instead of improving things and fixing things which were wrong with the AHA, Drumpf has proved his inability to lead and make decisions which benefit the majority.

The large insurance companies are not changing their practices either which prevents them from taking advantage of profits. Instead one small company is taking advantage of these options. They are actually expanding coverage in states where the big three are moving out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-13/trump-fired-comey-why-not-mueller-too

This is just one more example of the industry and the government showing their connection to a joint corruption. Instead of benefiting the whole of the country, they wish to benefit only the 1%. They are corrupt.

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 Of course, but that has

 Of course, but that has been the GOP tactic since Reagan, create a needless problem, then when others want to fix it sabotage it.

No different than the old Daffy Duck /Porky Pig cartoon where Daffy goes door to door and hits Porky's house and sells him a automated electronic house system every item when it fucks up Daffy sells him another solution. 

Same Daffy tactic in the Foghorn vs Beagle cartoon. Daffy would pit Foghorn against the Beagle and sell boobie traps to both.

Sad thing is unfortunately it is not a cartoon and the world is going to suffer from this.

 

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"Sad thing is unfortunately

"Sad thing is unfortunately it is not a cartoon and the world is going to suffer from this."

Mostly just you Americans.

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Vastet wrote:"Sad thing is

Vastet wrote:
"Sad thing is unfortunately it is not a cartoon and the world is going to suffer from this." Mostly just you Americans.

It's coming for you Canadians too

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No man. We're ready for a

No man. We're ready for a trade war. The US has a LOT more to lose than we do. We have alternative trade partners. We've been preparing for this scenario for 20 odd years. That's all that Trump has to hurt us with.

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Vastet wrote:No man. We're

Vastet wrote:
No man. We're ready for a trade war. The US has a LOT more to lose than we do. We have alternative trade partners. We've been preparing for this scenario for 20 odd years. That's all that Trump has to hurt us with.

Just give Drumpf time. He's melting the ice as quickly as possible

Vastet's picture

In that he's not really any

In that he's not really any different from any president. The ice already melted anyway. I can't remember the last year we experienced winter. Trump isn't smart enough to make things worse. And pulling out of Paris won't last.

Trump is no threat to 90% of the world. It's mostly just Americans who have to deal with him. Everyone else is jumping on the opportunities he's given us to degrade the American empire. It's going quite well so far.

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Vastet wrote:I can't

Vastet wrote:
I can't remember the last year we experienced winter. Trump isn't smart enough to make things worse. And pulling out of Paris won't last. Trump is no threat to 90% of the world. It's mostly just Americans who have to deal with him. Everyone else is jumping on the opportunities he's given us to degrade the American empire. It's going quite well so far.

 

These stats show how bad Vancouver’s winter has been

 

Maybe you should move to Vancouver.

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/these-stats-show-how-brutal-vancouvers-winter-has-been/

Not going so well for the degraders.

 

U.S. Trade Gap Shrinks As Exports Rise

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2017/04/04/u-s-trade-gap-shrinks-as-exports-rise.html

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Vancouver does not have and

Vancouver does not have and never has had a winter. Every snowflake that ever falls in Vancouver melts within 48 hours. Funny how little real information is ever present in any link you post.

As for your other link, nothing Faux news claims is credible. So I'm not going to waste my time reading their blatant fantasies.

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https://www.scientificamerica

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-global-warming-harsher-winter/

In the 1980's my father told me that a scientist said there would be a mini-ice age in northern Europe.

He said the ice would all melt and the currents in the Atlantic and Pacific would slow down and stop the diffusing of the cold with the hot.

In other words, the water would become stagnant.

That appears to be happening. 

http://e360.yale.edu/features/will_climate_change_jam_the_global_ocean_conveyor_belt

 

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It's possible. It's not

It's possible. It's not likely to happen soon though. Sadly. I want winter back.

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Vastet wrote:It's possible.

Vastet wrote:
It's possible. It's not likely to happen soon though. Sadly. I want winter back.

I think we have passed a point of no return. It is a slow process, very slow, but people with the disorder called "foot in mouth, head in ass" fail to see their contribution to the problem.

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But Trump is saving the

But Trump is saving the planet, just look at this carbon footprint map.

http://carbonfootprintofnations.com/

With every deportation, and every person that can't cross the wall, every refugee kept out, means one less American, one less carbon polluter. Trump's immigration policies will keep the planet from the critical point where it will cease to exist.

Hail Trump, only he can save us.

 

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digitalbeachbum wrote:Vastet

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Vastet wrote:
It's possible. It's not likely to happen soon though. Sadly. I want winter back.

I think we have passed a point of no return. It is a slow process, very slow, but people with the disorder called "foot in mouth, head in ass" fail to see their contribution to the problem.

I don't believe such is the case. We know there have been multiple times in history where the planet has been hotter with more carbon in the air. We also know that it never started an irreversible chain reaction because we're here.

Not to say there aren't significant issues that climate change will create, but our extinction isn't one of them.

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EXC wrote:But Trump is

EXC wrote:

But Trump is saving the planet, just look at this carbon footprint map.

http://carbonfootprintofnations.com/

With every deportation, and every person that can't cross the wall, every refugee kept out, means one less American, one less carbon polluter. Trump's immigration policies will keep the planet from the critical point where it will cease to exist.

Hail Trump, only he can save us.

 

Unless you start executing everyone you deny entry to, turning people away has little to no impact on carbon footprints.

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EXC's picture

 Are you a science denier?

 Are you a science denier? The science is pretty clear USA and Canada are near the top of the list in per Capita carbon 'pollution'. 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080428120658.htm

So its pretty clear if you believe the cult of climate change, that Trump's immigration policies may save the planet.

You all need to keep as many new people as possible from owning SUVs, shopping at the mall, eating cheeseburgers, driving on the interstate, etc.. Keep them in their poor 3rd world villages to save us all.

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EXC wrote: Are you a

EXC wrote:
 Are you a science denier? The science is pretty clear USA and Canada are near the top of the list in per Capita carbon 'pollution'.

I'm well aware. It changes nothing. The US doesn't have anything like the immigration rate it would need to justify your argument. And even if it did, turning people away wouldn't prevent them from going to another high polluter. Unless you can prove that every immigrant instantly upon becoming American becomes equal to the average American (you can't, because they don't), your argument is just hot air.

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Exe, I wonder if you have

Exe, I wonder if you have any purpose other than to troll.

 

EXC's picture

 The way I see it, the

 The way I see it, the entire media is a troll. You are its victim. Your cognitive dissonance is exhibit A.

Are you comfortable believing both that USA's consumption is most responsible for the impending climate disaster and also that letting in millions more immigrants to become American consumers does no harm? Apparently only Anglo male natives can have a large carbon footprint? This is how your political indoctrination forces you to think.

Just trying to make you uncomfortable with your irrational indoctrinations. Nothing personal.

 

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EXC wrote: The way I see

EXC wrote:

 The way I see it, the entire media is a troll. You are its victim. Your cognitive dissonance is exhibit A.

Are you comfortable believing both that USA's consumption is most responsible for the impending climate disaster and also that letting in millions more immigrants to become American consumers does no harm? Apparently only Anglo male natives can have a large carbon footprint? This is how your political indoctrination forces you to think.

Just trying to make you uncomfortable with your irrational indoctrinations. Nothing personal.

 

I don't watch the news. I've been on a news black out. I occassionally get a specific headline which I read about, maybe science for example.

I don't have cable television. I don't listen to the radio. I'm no victim.

Unless thos immigrants leave the planet, their carbon footprint still exists. Leaving one country and moving to another wouldn't have changed things.

A person who stops driving a car and instead rides a bike then changes their carbon footprint.

You can't make me uncomfortable about any thing. I'm a confident person and know who I am, what I am doing and where I am going.

Irrational indoctrinations? lmao.

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EXC wrote: The way I see

EXC wrote:

 The way I see it, the entire media is a troll. You are its victim. Your cognitive dissonance is exhibit A.

Delicious irony.

EXC wrote:
Are you comfortable believing both that USA's consumption is most responsible for the impending climate disaster

That isn't true.

EXC wrote:
and also that letting in millions more immigrants to become American consumers does no harm?

And that isn't true either.

EXC wrote:
Apparently only Anglo male natives can have a large carbon footprint? This is how your political indoctrination forces you to think.

Patently ridiculous.

EXC wrote:
Just trying to make you uncomfortable with your irrational indoctrinations. Nothing personal.

You're going to have to stop lying to accomplish anything.

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digitalbeachbum wrote:I

digitalbeachbum wrote:

I don't have cable television. I don't listen to the radio. I'm no victim.

Then how did you figure out that Trump was an idiot/sociopath/science denier/destroyer of worlds?

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Unless thos immigrants leave the planet, their carbon footprint still exists. Leaving one country and moving to another wouldn't have changed things.

What do you think the carbon footprint is of someone sitting in refugee camp eating a bowl of rice per day is vs. a SUV driving, double cheeseburger eating/jet setting/frivilous consuming American? Of course Americans and Canadians have a huge carbon footprint vs. third worlders. Now you and Vastet are the science deniers.

Carbon Footprint Of Best Conserving Americans Is Still Double Global Average 

This fact is gospel for the Climate Change Cult. How can you deny it? Also, I thought your leftist propaganda requires you to believe they will all be killed if sent back, so they'd have zero footprint, am I right?

My haters call me a troll, yet I'm the one that tries to use logic, reason and evidence. All they have is ad-hominem, calling me a troll is just a way to brush me off with using reason.

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EXC wrote: Of course

EXC wrote:
Of course Americans and Canadians have a huge carbon footprint vs. third worlders. Now you and Vastet are the science deniers.

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true, retard.

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Vastet wrote:EXC wrote: Of

Vastet wrote:
EXC wrote:
Of course Americans and Canadians have a huge carbon footprint vs. third worlders. Now you and Vastet are the science deniers.
Repeating a lie doesn't make it true, retard.

Repeated denial of published research from respected science research institutes does not make it false. You are doing exactly what you accuse the climate change deniers do. Neither does insulting the messenger.

How exactly is Trudeau going to lower Canada's massive carbon footprint(per capita) while making millions of 3rd world refugees and other immigrants fully Canadian? But you got to have faith in the words of the pastor no matter what. Maybe he'll wave the magic government wand and make them all have zero carbon footprint.

 

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen

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EXC wrote:Then how did you

EXC wrote:

Then how did you figure out that Trump was an idiot/sociopath/science denier/destroyer of worlds?

What do you think the carbon footprint is of someone sitting in refugee camp eating a bowl of rice per day is vs. a SUV driving, double cheeseburger eating/jet setting/frivilous consuming American? Of course Americans and Canadians have a huge carbon footprint vs. third worlders. Now you and Vastet are the science deniers.

This fact is gospel for the Climate Change Cult. How can you deny it? Also, I thought your leftist propaganda requires you to believe they will all be killed if sent back, so they'd have zero footprint, am I right?

My haters call me a troll, yet I'm the one that tries to use logic, reason and evidence. All they have is ad-hominem, calling me a troll is just a way to brush me off with using reason.

I know Drumpf. I've seen him campaign. I actually saw him speak. I investigated him so that I would know if I wanted to vote for him or not.

Hmmmm. We were talking about illegals right? So if an illegal leaves the US and goes back to Mexico, is their carbon footprint different? No. If a person eats like a poor person in America, they will be eating like a poor person in Mexico. If they drive an SUV in America they will drive an SUV in Mexico.

Jesus h fucking christ dude. I live in Florida. I know something is happening. The climate is changing. We didn't have any days in Orlando which weren't freezing last year. I think the lowest it got at my house was 42 and that was at 2pm in the morning. By sunrise it was 80.

It is getting fucking warmer. I never said it was all the fault of humans, but we have had a lot to do with it and we can either slow it down or reverse it using our fucking technology.

And you have trolled. You have posted comments which are definitely trolling. 

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EXC wrote:Repeated denial of

EXC wrote:
Repeated denial of published research from respected science research institutes does not make it false.

You have 0 examples of this, so your comment is irrelevant.

EXC wrote:
You are doing exactly what you accuse the climate change deniers do. Neither does insulting the messenger.

No I'm not, you're doing what I claim denirrs do. I'm working with real science provided by real scientists.
And insulting the messenger won't hurt either. You're a pathalogical liar. 99% of everything you've ever said is a proven lie. I spent years attempting to educate you nicely and it accomplished nothing. You still repeat the same lies I disproved a decade ago. Clearly being nice won't accomplish anything. Clearly educating you will accomplish nothing. So from now on I'm going to ridicule everything you say. You aren't capable of learning, but I can prove you're a retard every time you say something stupid, and that's exactly what I'm going to do.

EXC wrote:
How exactly is Trudeau going to lower Canada's massive carbon footprint(per capita) while making millions of 3rd world refugees and other immigrants fully Canadian?

Good question. Ask him.

EXC wrote:
But you got to have faith in the words of the pastor no matter what. Maybe he'll wave the magic government wand and make them all have zero carbon footprint.

It's literally just as likely as anything you've ever said.

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