hypocrites

i would like to call the majority of you people one this site hypocrites, here u are denieing any all gods and religions saying that peop.le need to stop following religion and "think freely", but if none of these religions are true, then that means someone mustve taken the time to think for themselves and create them, and others decided to follow that free thinker, just as you people are trying others to follow your "free thinking" and get them to denie everything that isnt fitting your standards of "no god". Now i call you people hypocrites cause you are denieing and telling others to denie religion which if they are not true are the result of free thinking, so you are denieing the right of free thinking to others cause it doesnt fit your standards, thus you are telling otheres not to do wat you do cause you dont like how they do it.

darth_josh's picture

Perhaps in reading more of

Perhaps while reading more of the site, you will find one of the many responses to this accusation.
It takes a little longer than 30 minutes of membership to form an opinion wouldn't you think?

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How many of the religious

How many of the religious listen to other idea's? How many have thought about it? Do you realize the only gods that I flat out deny are the ones that are clearly defined and is a paradox? Do you have evidence of gods? Have you ever thought about how children are labeled at birth to believe one thing? Also I don't think setting standards for logic and reason is a bad thing . . .

Let explore this idea of hypocrite.

dictionary.com wrote:
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

How are we hypocrites?

What beliefs do we not have that we claim to have?

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i would like to call the majority of you people one this site hypocrites, here u are denieing any all gods and religions saying that peop.le need to stop following religion and "think freely", but if none of these religions are true, then that means someone mustve taken the time to think for themselves and create them, and others decided to follow that free thinker, just as you people are trying others to follow your "free thinking" and get them to denie everything that isnt fitting your standards of "no god".

Ok, first of all, try a grammar and spell checker out, it's your friend. Second, learn what a freethinker is. A freethinker is not someone who thinks freely to become religious, a freethinker is someone who rejects religious dogma.

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Now i call you people hypocrites cause you are denieing and telling others to denie religion which if they are not true are the result of free thinking, so you are denieing the right of free thinking to others cause it doesnt fit your standards, thus you are telling otheres not to do wat you do cause you dont like how they do it.

Nope, we're not denying freethinking. Freethinking is the act of thinking without religion, not thinking freely to become religious.

Now, if you actually had anywhere near an argument for hypocrisy it might look more like one of these arguments which have been thoroughly refuted:

Proving that certain people who call us hypocrites don't realize they themselves are hypocrites

Is this site hypocritical?

- Brian Sapient


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LeftofLarry's picture

I think before you start

I think before you start judging you should probably stick around for a while and join the discussions. You will soon realize that no one here is trying to make anyone follow anyone else's idea. We are a diverse group of people interested in sparking dialogue through criticizing religion. Calling us hypocrites is useless and baseless, it adds nothing to the conversation, and frankly, your reasons for doing so, are not comprehensible. We have very valid reasons for criticizing religion and we back up our claims with evidence. If trying to get people educated on the subject matter is hypocritical, then my friend, you should not be going to school, cause how hypocritical is it for someone to teach you math and science and literature? I mean, why would someone teach you the truth, they should just stick to, say alchemy and tell you the earth is flat, after all...people thought that to be true at some point in time. Also, your verdict of hypocrisy is falsely claimed because I don't think anyone forced you to join...you came under your own free will my friend. As with everyone else on this board.

I urge you to stick around for a little while, learn a couple of things..and then perhaps you can reform your opinion..or not....but I know you have not been reading much on this site...considering you haven't been a member for a day yet.

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Dissident1's picture

Nobody actually took the time

The concept of god as we know it was a product of evolution.

Early man began considering things like their relation to other lifeforms and to the world around them. This lead them to produce the idea of a spirit, in order for them to make amends to the animals and plants that they killed for food and clothing. Ancestor worship followed soon thereafter. Consideration of ancestors lead them to wonder about the first ancestors, the ones from whom all originated. This first ancestor was later derived to be an eternal mother, who lived with an eternal father, both of whom watched over their children.

The move from ancestor-deities who commune with their descendants for their mutual welfare and watch over their children as parents to creator-deities who produce laws and rule over their creation was an evolution in thought. In order for this evolution of thought to take place, dogmatic adherence to the preceding beliefs had to be established. Such adherence inevitably means to bind ones thoughts to someone else's ideas, to submit to outside authorities. Thus, the religious become slaves to their religions, which is quite the opposite of being free. The freethought philosophy and operating paradigm is to free ones mind (thoughts) from the confines of any form of dogma, be it political, social/cultural, or religious/ideological.

I am become death, destroyer of worlds

rationalmormon's picture

A For Effort

Yo! There's not enough room in this town for two theists! ...ok, just kidding. That was pretty funny though. Yeah, I guess that is a small fallacy in atheist doctrine... but, in actuality, one free thinker could chain others thoughts.

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Yeah, I guess that is a small fallacy in atheist doctrine

What doctrine?