Creationism evidence list. -Debunk it yourself!

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Creationism evidence list. -Debunk it yourself!

I came across a list of creationism evidence on a non- english website. The list isn't in english, so I'll just try to translate it. My own quotes are in [ ]. The stupidest ones are bolded:

1. information destroying mutations observed often

2. truly useful mutations basically never observed


3. shrunk organs


4. heriditary diseases


5. natural selection proven [What the hell? I thought this was creationism evidence.]

6. [Can't translate this one]

7. The earth's magnetic field is weakening.

8. fast magnetic field changes in the past have preserved in magnetic rock

9. "extra" C14

10. helium in zirkons [not sure if this is correct translation]

11. lead in zirkons

12. The spin of galaxies "too" fast


13. comets break apart "too" fast

14. continents and sediments exist despite fast erosion


15. sediments in ocean floor "too" thin

16. The salt levels in ocean are "too" low 

17. the evolutionist's inability to defend their theory and critisize creationism openly and constructively

18. the creation story in the bible (historically recorded proof)

19. different nationalities have different creation stories

20. Po-halos


21. [can't translate]

22. Recorded history only about 5000 years

23. Haldanen dilemma


24. Pioneer-anomaly (creationist White Hole -cosmology exlains, evolutionist Big Bang cosmology doesn't)

25. dark matter and energy "too" little

26. clusters of bright stars in the center of the galaxy


27. the center is surrounded by a gas cloud


28. very hot x-ray radiating gas in the center


29. moon moving away

30. the complexity of the knee

31. the beauty of a peacock's tail (sexual selection doesn't explain)


32. [can't translate]


33. the second law of thermodynamics

34. Dembski's mathematical proof

35. Laonastes aenigmamus, Neoglyphea neocaledonicaksi, Latimeria chalumnae, etc.

36. the preservation of a mammoth's dna

37. red blood cells found in tyrannosaurus' bones

38. the magnetic fields of Uranus and Neptune

39. heterophyid trematode -parasite worms

40. Kingston peak -formation


41. Heiko's sun paradox

42. Mercury (quick birth, properties)


43. ATP


44. B-cells

The list itself is here: http://tjt2.tripod.com/evkreatodisteet.html

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   Good translating

 

 Good translating Larty, I'll give you a hand with the tough ones:

 

Larty wrote:

6. [Can't translate this one]

 

lajiutuminen = speciation

osapopulaatioihin = part population

 

 

Quote:

21. [can't translate]

 

fissiourat = fisson grooves 

 

 

Quote:

 

32. [can't translate]

LOL! DG's field!

proteiinien laskostuminen = Protein folding.

 

 

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Sheesh, a lot of those don't

Sheesh, a lot of those don't even have anything to do with evolution. I only skimmed it but the one about only 5000 years of recorded history is completely irrelevant to evolution, except that it shows that humans didn't start recording their history until about 5000 years ago.


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For the utterly vast

For the utterly vast majority of these, there is simply no link whatsoever to any possible argument against evolution in any way, shape, or form. In this regard, the worst was:

43. ATP

Really, that's an argument? Not last time I checked. ATP stands for Adenosine Triphosphate, a molecule which uderlies the bulk of the energy carrier system of all of biological life, and is one of the most ubiquitous entities in cellular life. However, try as I might, I cannot see how this:

Constitutes an Argument against evolution.

A great deal of others simply demonstrated ignorance if not being total non sequiturs. The argument from "the second law of thermodynamics" can be refuted by knowing three very simple equation, S=h/T, ∆S(universe)=∆Ssystem+∆S(surrounding), and -∆G=-H+T∆S. Dembski's argument can be refuted by anyone who knows the Shannon equations, the ones that simply list complex structures that the authors express personal incredulity over, like B-cells, are obviously nonsense. The word "C14" itself does not constitute an argument, some of the claims, such as c-decay, are simply lies, and the rest are largely incoherent. 

 

 

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What language is that in?

What language is that in?


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Its from suomi from Finland.

Its Suomi which they speak in Fnland. Its a very different looking language though isn't it? My wife is from Sweden which has many similarities to Finland.

Thats cute.


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http://www.trueorigin.org/at

http://www.trueorigin.org/atp.asp

LOL too funny. it's from the retard behe.  


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It's pretty strange. This

It's pretty strange. This was supposed to be proof for creationism. Not proof against evolution. Most of the "proof" here is aimed to debunk evolution and I see very little proof for creationism.

Most of these are pretty puzzling, and I can't comment on. Some are Kent Hovind level retarded.

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daretoknow wrote: Its Suomi

daretoknow wrote:
Its Suomi which they speak in Fnland. Its a very different looking language though isn't it? My wife is from Sweden which has many similarities to Finland.

Yes but the language is completely different. Finnish isn't even indo-european.

 

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44 PRATTs so what?   PRATT

44 PRATTs so what?

 

PRATT = points refuted a thousand times. 


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KSMB wrote:

KSMB wrote:

daretoknow wrote:
Its Suomi which they speak in Fnland. Its a very different looking language though isn't it? My wife is from Sweden which has many similarities to Finland.

Yes but the language is completely different. Finnish isn't even indo-european.

 

Eloise: are you from Finland?

nah, my neighbour, Erke, is a Fin, great bloke; and plus I love languages, it's my hobby.

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