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From: sonnyha1@yahoo.com
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:07 AM
Subject: [Hate Mail] FUCK YOU ATHEIST IDIOT FUCKER> sonny sent a message using the contact form at
> http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.
>
> FUCK YOU ALL ATHEIST . YOUR PARENT MUST BE VERY STUPID TO HAVE FUCKEN KIDS LIKE YOU . YOU THINKS WITH YOUR DUMB ASS OR THING WITH YOUR BRAIN . WHY YOU GUYS SO FUCKEN STUPID . NEVER SEE ANY GROUPS THATS SO FUCK STUPID ASSHOLE FUCKER LIKE YOU GUYS . ESPECIALY WHO EVER MAKE UP THIS FUCKEN WEBSITE . IF I SEE WHOEVER MAKE UP THIS FUCKEN SITE . IM GONNA KICK YOUR FUCKEN ASS LIKE A FUCKEN SHIT SISSY . FUCK YOU ALL ATHEIST . REMEMBER YOU GUYS AINT NOTHING BUT SHIT . PEOPLE LIKE YOU GUYS IS JUST A FUCKEN PIECE OF SHIT .NOTHING ELSE . FUCK ALL OF YOUR IDIOT FUCKER
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From: gabe@godsmac.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:41 AM
Subject: [General Question] Nice try!> Gabe Taviano sent a message using the contact form at
> http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.
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> I thought you did a terrible job on Nightline. Nice try. No proof there is
> no God? You foundation contains faith as well, lol. Big L for a loss in
> the debate, sorry.
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From: akayusuf@juno.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:46 AM
Subject: [General Question] Get angry at God> Joe sent a message using the contact form at
> http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.
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> Christians are just the messengers. You can get angry and blame the
> Christians for the message, but you really need to get angry with God.
> Whether or not you accept it, everyone will die and then have to deal with
> reality. God is real, His word is truth. Get over your anger and get to
> know Jesus!
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From: americanfamilyphoto@msn.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:12 AM
Subject: [General Question] Nightline> David sent a message using the contact form at
> http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.
>
> Saw your "debate" with Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort on Nightline. Kelly
> raised a point regarding the existence of the man, Jesus. She said there
> is no evidence that he existed. Actually, thousands of people witnessed
> his existence on earth, and many testified to his existence in the pages
> of the Bible. Naturally, all of them are dead, so you can't interview
> them. But why is it you can not find their written statements credible?
>
> I challenge you to prove to me conclusively that George Washington
> existed. Thousands of people witnessed his existence on earth, and many
> testified in letters and other manuscripts that he existed. We have no
> films or photographs of George Washington, and what conclusive proof do we
> have that what evidence we do have of him are not forgeries? We can't
> interview those who claimed to have seen him, because (you guessed it)
> they're dead.
>
> You see, Kelly and Brian, we can't prove scientifically that George
> Washington existed. And unlike Kirk and Ray, I don't believe man has found
> a purely scientifically method for proving God's existence, Jesus
> existence, or even George Washington's existence.
>
> What you were all siting as scientific evidence to support your cases, was
> not scientific at all. You were each relying on logical conclusions based
> on empirical evidence.
>
> Personally, I don't agree that you beat them at every point. You were
> correct in admitting that you made some blunders in your arguments - as
> did Kirk and Ray. But in reviewing the video (which I've posted on
> YouTube), there is a glaring difference in the attitude of the Christians
> in attendence, and the atheists. Kirk expressed his caring for you - and
> you called him "Numbnuts", no doubt a term of endearment. The atheists
> were shown to be intolerant, and given to rage and personal attacks. That
> in itself is evidence of the difference in life lived for God and life
> lived without God. And Kelly - the God you discribed in the program is not
> a God I would worship either. And that is NOT the God of the Bible. Our God
> is the embodiment of unconditional love. But he is also a God who has given
> us freewill to love Him, or reject/deny Him, as you have chosen to do. God
> will not force you to believe in Him, but don't expect that when you pass
> from this life that you will not get exactly what you have chosen -
> separation from God. He'll respect your decision and give you what you've
> willed here on earth. If that sounds like a tyrant to you, then you may
> want to study up on the attributes of God, as laid out in scripture. It's
> one thing to base your comments on what Christians really believe, rather
> than upon ungrounded assumptions.
>
> If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail me, and I'll answer them as
> best I can.
>
> David in California
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From: sienalounge@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:53 AM
Subject: [General Question] regarding the tv debate> daniel sent a message using the contact form at
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> Hello
>
> I watched the TV debate and was sad at the display on both sides. I
> think the main issue is how does what your doing help? Does it make
> people feel better, happier, more confident, give them hope, etc... Some
> people need religion to help them along this path. Others need scientific
> explanation or fact to help them. Still othes need both. I think its not
> so much is there a God or not, its simply can one respect a choice someone
> else makes to help themselves and not interfear with that. Everyone has the
> right to express ones opinion but i feel that the excess that each group is
> taking it is harmful to themselves and others. This religious debate has
> been and always will be a heated subject. Its a shame that people with
> your power don't use you time and money for something constructive not
> destructive.
>
> Daniel
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From: ezines@houston.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:48 AM
Subject: [General Question] debate> Steve Pugh sent a message using the contact form at
> http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.
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> I was soooooo cool watching Kirk and Ray hand your butts to you in the
> debate. You were not only rude, you were irrational.
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From: johnfhuffman@yahoo.com
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:49 AM
Subject: [General Question] blasphemy challenge> john huffman sent a message using the contact form at
> http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.
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> Why waste your time renouncing someone that doesnt exist? Why spend your
> days insulting a being that isnt there? I personally do not believe in
> U.F.O.'s. they actually take up little or none of my day. I dont find it
> necessary to assult them with a bearage of inflamatory insults. I really
> dont care about them one way or the other. Yet i do not find myself
> searching out others to affirm my belief. I dont need someone to agree
> with me. I watched your nightline debate and quit frankly you look like
> teenagers debating whether dad exists. I will concede though that other
> then the love of money, religion is one of the most destructive forces on
> the earth. along with psychology. I do commend you on your sensitivity
> towards your opponents, your concern actually reflects your true nature.
> sincerly, john
>
----- Original Message -----
From: jamesking007b@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:34 AM
Subject: [Defend my God!] what are you doing> john sent a message using the contact form at
> http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.
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> ok let me get this you say that there is no GOD... and whaen we die thats
> it game over is that right.... but what i dont get is then if all we say
> is ponitless and none of this even matters why then do you fight so hard
> to disprove somthing that wont even matter in lets say 70 years.. they way
> you guys fight so hard to disprove God say something to his power... why
> fight to disprove something if all we say and do is never really going to
> mean anything when we die... why try to take hope away from people... that
> is what you are trying to do....if in your minds Jesus Christ is not real i
> feel sad you, but why try to fight what you all belive does not exsit...
> instead let people have hope in Jesus... I fight because he is real... See
> you can fight for what is real... You cant fight what does not exist....
> GOD BLESS please ask Jesus to forgive you
>
----- Original Message -----
From: carolinacarpetsl@bellsouth.net
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:31 AM
Subject: [General Question] RRS is for suckers> Matt Hrdlick sent a message using the contact form at
> http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.
>
> This looks like a lame attempt at getting advertising dollars. Hey Rook,
> your very convincing explanation of why Jesus never existed will never
> change my faith. Hope you got the sarcasm. Your facial expressions alone
> make you seem like you don't really believe what your saying. You seem
> more like a pissy teenager rather than someone who's trying to change the
> world. Your organization is really the bottom of the barrel when it comes
> to class. I respect the Athiest point of view but I hate when it's shoved
> down my throat, very much like how you hate the Christian faith being
> forced on you. Fact is, you can't prove the non-existence of God,
> therefore your argument against God makes as much sense as the argument
> for God to an Athiest. What is wrong with someone of faith believing in a
> higher power? Is it such a bane to your existence? I'll finish with
> saying that we should agree to disagree but this really just looks like a
> lame attempt at cashing in. Get a real job. And some class.
>
----- Original Message -----
From: footballwilly@hotmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:46 PM
Subject: [General Question] I believe in Jesus; I have the Holy Spirit> Will sent a message using the contact form at
> http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.
>
> Hey,
> I was simply wondering how it seems right for you to attack someone else's
> belief and try to replace it with yours. That's all yours is; that's all
> mine is; a belief. No one can prove that God does not exist, and no one
> can prove he does. So all you do as you "[fight] to free humanity from
> the mind disorder known as atheism" you instill a new disorder known as
> atheism. You realize that all your beliefs are based on mine--on trying
> to prove me wrong. Fighting for my toys, eh? Childish.
> Furthermore, it is much more difficult to put faith in Christ and live a
> life of love. It's the law of entropy-- a scientific law but I don't know
> how much of that you know about.
> Thank you for taking time to read this.
>
> -Will
----- Original Message -----
From: Sdsmith2@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:24 PM
Subject: [General Question] Thanks> Steven sent a message using the contact form at
> http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.
>
> Hello,
> I would first off like to thank you for strengthening my faith in Jesus
> Christ and the Holy Spirit. After going through your website I can’t
> help but feel better about being a follower of Jesus Christ.
> I am 18 years old and have been going to a Disciples of Christ Protestant
> church for my entire life. I have questioned my faith, just as I think
> every Christian should, but through my personal life experiences I have
> accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior and have given my soul to him forever.
>
> However I sincerely commend all of you for the depth of research that you
> all conduct to come to your conclusions about God and atheism. Seriously I
> really believe that researching and educating oneself and finding out about
> what you believe in is awesome. You present yourselves as very well spoken,
> knowledgeable people… which leads me to my second point…
> At first this website made me mad, but then I watched the videos and read
> some things and realized that you all aren’t ignorant idiots, rather
> smart, bold, well spoken people. I accept that you all have different
> beliefs and opinions and through your website I do not hate you, rather I
> respect you. However I wish all atheists have researched their faith as
> much as you guys. But I wish there could be a mutual respect between
> atheists and Christians. And this leads me to my question for you. How do
> you, as atheists, see the relationship between Christians and atheists?
> Should there be hate, respect, or maybe even love? There isn’t a bible
> or a true set of beliefs for atheism (I think) so you guys seem to be the
> experts of atheism. How should, in your opinion, atheists and Christians
> get along? What is your reaction towards me, a Christian?
> Well…I just felt like I had to write you guys to thank you for
> strengthening my faith. I guess I hope that your website doesn’t convert
> anyone to atheism, yet I hope there is always someone who will step forward
> and question things like what you guys have done. Finally, I will pray for
> all of you. I hope that through all of your soul searching that you just
> might find Jesus Christ to be your savior…just maybe.
>
>
> -Steven
Atheist, Atheism, Agnostic, Rational Response Squad
Theese posters are sofa king we tar did.
Science works whether you believe in it or not.
Child of a loving god.
Genesis 2:22 - Rib for his pleasure.
Wow, they all must have felt very threatened by words, arguments and the exisitence of atheists.
"The Puritans gave thanks for being preserved from the Indians, and we give thanks for being preserved from the Puritans." - Finley Peter Dunne
Ah yes, here's some christ love for ya!!! Sonny, if there was a god he would be shaking his head in utter dismay that you are one of his followers. You are nothing but an ignorant little twatwaffle who clearly doesn't have enough brain power to formulate an original hate letter, much less be able to understand the complexities of science and sociology.
I personally think you are a little sissy and I will kick your ass and make you cry in front of all your friends. So please, put back on your petticoat and ruffles, little boy, and quit being such a stupid douchebag.
(MOD EDIT: Fixed quotation feature...I hope.)
If god takes life he's an indian giver
That's true, just as there's thousands of people who witnessed Harry Potter's existence on earth in the Harry Potter series of books.
The bible is not a history book. It may contain historical events and places, just as Harry Potter contains real places (no events come to mind unfortunately - though there are some in The Da Vinci Code and many other fiction books). The bible is the word of god through other mostly unknown/uncreditable authors (keep in mind that it being the word of god in itself is debateable, but not the point of this post), like Harry Potter is the word of J K Rowling. Those events and places contained in the bible that happen to be correct prove nothing, and the ones that aren't correct back up its fallability and lack of being a historical text.
Organised religion is the ultimate form of blasphemy.
Wow these people are unoriginal. You could pretty much cut and paste replies all day long! Everyone has their own way of dealing with theists, but if you are one of those who deal with these people on these posts I would suggest simply cutting and pasting replies from your own previous posts. It will save you precious time so that you can move on to the next question. Just a thought.
"Those who have stepped into the arena shall forever cherish a feeling the protected will never know."
I'm atheist
I'm atheist
Hello ladies and gentlemen, maybe some you will decide to visit the forums and defend your posistions.
"The Puritans gave thanks for being preserved from the Indians, and we give thanks for being preserved from the Puritans." - Finley Peter Dunne
FUCK YOU BITCH . PARIAHJANE YOU LOOK LIKE A FUCKEN WOODY WOODY PECKER . TALKING TO YOU FUCKEN ETHEIST LIKE TALKING TO A PIECE OF SHIT . ALL OF YOU FUCKEN ETHEIST IS JUST A SISSY CHICKEN . BRING YOUR FUCKEN BOYFRIEND AND YOU FUCKEN SISSY TO L.A . I WILL FUCKEN KICK YOUR BOYFRIEND AND YOUR STUPID ASS BY MY SELF . TALKING ABOUT SCIENCE . YOU GUY THINK WITH YOUR ASS . HOW CAN WE TALK ABOUT SCIENCE WITH YOU GUYS . STUPID FUCKEN ATHEIST . FUCK ALL OF YOU .
Oh boy, you really showed us.
This should be fun...
Fuck you too!
Says the guy who can't even spell fucking.
You do realize the caps lock button on your keyboard is generally turned off to avoid the poster looking like an idiot do you not? Oh you didn't? And you are an idiot, so it's a good reflection of who you are? Never mind then. Continue.
What does that even mean? Is english your first or fourtyith language?
Yada yada yada. A real winner this one. IQ level of 33 perhaps? *sigh*
You must think Ray and Kirk made complete fools of themselves then.
No, I'm sorry. You obviously don't know enough about reality and the definition of terms like "faith" to recognize the complete fool you just made of yourself.
Huh? Why would I get angry at an invisible person who's incapable of doing anything when I can get mad at the person who is directly making people hurt?
Yourself included. It's really too bad that by the time a theist figures out there's no god by dying, that there's nothing he or she can do to make it up to everyone they wronged along the way.
God is imaginary. Get over your delusion and check into the nearest psych ward.
And she was right when she said that.
Even more naturally, when looking to the bible to prove the bible, you're running in a massive circle of logic that will never end and never prove a single thing.
Because the bible is self contradictory and impossible. Nothing within it has any veracity whatsoever.
His grave is at Mount Verno I believe. There are contemporary accounts of his existance and deeds all over your country, Britain, and France. None of this exists for your jesus.
Not one person.
The abundance of the evidence and the lack of contradiction within it. Plus the fact that there's no reason not to believe he lived. He was just a man who did ordinary and mortal things like every other man. He never claimed to be the son of a fictional god.
Yes, we can. I just did.
So you don't believe in history at all. Amusing.
That is science. What do you think science is anyway?
The self deluded theist can see anything he wants to see.
I feel pretty safe calling you a bald faced liar at this point.
So you don't read the bible either.
Impossible.
Impossible.
If god exists, then he's the one who chose that seperation.
Scripture is incoherant and impossible. Belief in it makes you delusional.
Apparently we know your religion better than you do. So this is just plain dumb of you to say.
If you have any questions about reality, come to the site and learn.
Hello. Finally a theist who isn't angry and stupid with the first words. You get props from me for showing that not every theist is a complete ass.
I'm concerned less with making someone happy than stopping someone from making someone hurt, sad, and dead. One thing at a time.
It may be that this is true. And if it is, I'm not one to tell people what they can or cannot believe. Unless they try and tell me what I can or cannot believe. At which point it's open season on them. They've been trying to tell me what I can and cannot believe for 25 odd years. I have drawn the line, they crossed it. There's no turning back.
Some people don't need to put faith into anything to enjoy life. Many atheists are like that. No theist is.
Some people aren't given a choice as to what to believe. They are brainwashed from childhood to believe in something that isn't there. Until that changes, I'll be fighting theism.
I'm here specifically because theism went down that road. A loud idiot needs to be shouted down, not whispered down. He won't even hear a whisper over his shouting. So I shout louder.
I'm guessing you didn't notice the blood drive. Or the education being offered for free. Or a few other things. We are not just tearing down theism, we're offering a better alternative to it.
Are you living in some alternate dimension where Kirk and Ray are the rational atheists and Brian and Kelly are the irrational theists? If so, I'd love to know how you're communicating across the dimensional boundaries. And to know what else is different between our universes.
Because there are a few billion people who pretend it does exist, and negatively affect me and others in the process. If they stop, then I'll have no reason to renounce the invisible friends.
I don't. There's no point in insulting a fictional god. I stick to those that believe in the fictional god for insults. And I always let them cast the first stone.
We have something in common then.
Neither do I. But then, people who believe in UFO's are generally harmless individuals. People who believe in gods are capable of justifying the most cruel acts in the name of said gods.
Me either. But like I said above, I am not affected negatively by those who believe in said UFO's, so I have absolutely no reason to prove their beliefs are irrational. Even though they are.
Didn't see it, can't say otherwise except to point out the edit job ABC is said to have done. Not that it matters. I saw enough of the full debate to witness Kirk and Ray come up blank and concede the debate as a result of such less than 20 minutes in.
I'm glad that you see this too. Maybe if you consider how much of a danger I see it as being you will be unable to critique the fact that I critique religion.
Huh?
Almost certainly.
Just because you are incapable of seeing a point to your life without a god doesn't mean we are also incapable of the same. My life has meaning, and it has nothing to do with fictional deities. It has to do with me, and those I communicate with. Nothing else.
How do you figure that? Saying that santa doesn't exist is giving santa power? How much acid have you dropped today anyway?
Why is the simple fact that there is no god strip your life of meaning? I think that's a far better question than the one you ask.
What hope? Fear of burning in hell? That's hope? I think not.
Because the people who believe in it are fighting to make us believe in it too. When they stop, we can stop. Not before.
Let us alone and we won't care what you believe in.
I fight because he isn't.
I do.
I have to. Because of people like you.
You should be asking for my forgiveness, not suggesting I need to be forgiven.
That was the blasphemy challenge. And in case you didn't notice, it worked beautifully. It cannot be a "lame attempt" as a result.
How unfortunate. At least you're honest enough admit you're insane though. Most theists don't even do that much.
Another idiot who thinks atheists don't exist, not ever realizing that it's really the theist that doesn't exist. You know deep in your heart that you're living a lie. Give up the bullshit and come into the real world. You know you want to.
Nice refutation of his arguments. Oops, that's just an ad hominem attack. Standard theist policy. No surprise there.
A leper calling a beauty pagent victor ugly eh?
Well maybe all you christians should shut the hell up so we can stop reminding you that you're delusional.
Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed. There, I just disproved your god. Moving on...
See my responses to other emails in this post.
I'd like to agree to disagree, but assholes like you won't leave me alone. So I'll slap you each and every time.
I have one. I'm there right now actually. How about you?
Look in the mirror.
Because that's what the someone else is trying to do to us.
A common error. You believe. I disbelieve. There is a difference. Mine is the default position. Yours must be taught.
Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed. I just disproved 99+% of all gods ever invented. The few I didn't I'll disprove or show as irrelevant to life on earth once they are defined.
You misquoted the title line of the site, replacing theism with atheism. And a default position is incapable of being disorderly.
Exactly. I find it amazing how few theists realize this. I must congratulate you on figuring it out. If you weren't there to say that there's a god, I wouldn't be there to say there isn't a god. I'd be off doing something else and never considering the idea of a god.
Sad how it flew above your head.
No it isn't. You can pretend you have an invisible angel on your shoulder and that you'll live forever. The rest comes naturally to everyone.
I know it quite well actually. It popped up in the first debate I had with a theist. It became clear to me that theists don't understand the way entropy works very quickly. Every theist I've talked to since has confirmed that lack of understanding. Yourself included, since entropy has absolutely nothing to do with a "life of love" or "faith in christ".
No problem.
Sorry for that. How exactly?
Oh? I wonder how that could be, since so many followers of jesus have been so bad.
Ouch.
They sure did a good job on you to make you convince yourself that random and circumstancial occurances were the act of a god.
Thanks. I think so too.
If only every theist who came here took the time to learn about us before cursing and swearing in all caps.
You seem to be one deserving of respect yourself.
Me too. But it's not faith, it's a lack of faith.
I wish christians and Atheists could get along too, unfortunately those pesky christians keep wanting us to pray in schools and so on and so forth.
Similar to the witch hunts of the 1800's, just without the burnings. Hopefully we'll change that.
I'd be satisfied with leaving each other alone.
Well an atheist is merely one who doesn't believe in a god or gods. It doesn't cover anything else.
I don't know that we can. Atheists have been persecuted by christians since christianity was invented. But any time the christians want to throw down their weapons I'll be happy to light up a BBQ to celebrate.
I usually react to people as the people they are, not regarding what they believe. You seem like a nice enough person. Twould be nice if all christians were.
Sapient and a couple other people have been saying something every time a theist suggests they will be prayed for that I'm going to be echoing, since it's both amusing and true. While you pray for me, I'll think for you.
Proud Canadian, Enlightened Atheist, & Gaming God.
This is either brilliant trolling or...
No, that doesn't even bear thinking about.
Freedom of religious belief is an inalienable right. Stuffing that belief down other people's throats is not.