Look, after reading countless pages of this "debate", I've gotta say neither side is really upholding the reason this forum was created for.
We should accept by now we are NOT going to convince those opposed to our side we're right. Both sides refuse to concede either their faith or scientific theory(and I don't use theory here as "guess", some people can never seem to learn the distinction). This site may attract the most attention from the extreme theists or athiests, but it's really for people who arn't sure. If you're out to save someone, whether from damnation or blind faith, they're the only one probably listening carefully. After accepting that fact, anyone should just ask a question they honestly just want the answer to. That way we can see both ends of the arguement.
And I know I've said this before but it's sort of buried in another thread, so I'm saying it again. PLEASE stop insulting people's spelling, punctuation, grammar, etc., it's getting lame. When dealing with subjects as big as the orgin of the universe and the meaning of life, a few typos really don't amount to much. This is the internet, spelling here shouldn't be used as an I.Q. test, or we've got an alarming number of below average people out there.
If anyone has any problem with anything here, feel free to correct me.
"We are the star things harvesting the star energy"