HOW DARE YOU CODDLE THE INFEDELS!

WHY DID BIN LADIN COMMAND 19 PEOPLE TO DIE FOR ALLAH?

It certainly wasnt so you could pray for Christans and atheists!

 YOU BLASPHEMER! 

You think because  your "superman" has a "J" on it his chest that you know what Muslims and Atheists don't know?

Since you know so much about the future of humanity, could you predict the next time I will get laid? I am sure something as mundain as that shouldnt be a problem for daddy to predict. 

DENISE WROTE BACK AFTER I SENT HER THE LINK TO THIS THREAD:

Also, enter my alter-ego, PASCAL-HATERDAMMIT!!!

So, if there is a god, I have to pick the right one.  It might be Allah.  It might be that the Jews have it right, and Yahweh is real, but Jesus is not...

It might be that the pagans have it right and there are multiple gods.

Hell, Zeus might be god... or maybe Mithra... that's who the people who wrote the bible copied when they made up the story of Jesus...

Maybe it's Marduk!  He was god before there were ever Hebrews, and presided over the largest empire in the world...

Hell, there's a lot more than just your little god to choose from

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Consider this...if you are right, then when you die nothing happens...no harm no
fowl...Now, consider for just one moment that you are wrong...the Bible describes
hell as a place literally of fire where lost souls will be tormented for eternity and
where lost souls will beg for one drop of water to quench their thirst. If, on the
other hand, you are wrong and those of us who believe in Jesus Christ as our Lord and
Savior go to heaven, then we will be walking on streets of gold and living in
mansions and praising God for all eternity bathing in the mercy and grace and glory
of God forever and forever. 

I'm not willing to take that chance and bet my soul on an eternity of torment.  I
choose Christ, and I think you should too..."

That's one of the biggest problems with your false religion. You need threats in order to sway those who don't believe as you do. Well your threats have no hold on my heart.

My reaction's to denisepeele's statements in order...

People don't choose to find something true or false and personally I don't want some old dead guy touching me.

If god wanted me to believe in the existence of something god should have given people evidence for such beliefs. Now how do you know what god has in mind for me? Are you saying I can defy god?

Well see if I do something wrong I don't just think telling some guy with a collar about it makes everything ok. Now according to your bible I have eternal life regardless of belief, but really to be set free I wouldn't need threats of eternal pain and suffering...

I will be thinking for you.

Freewill? By that do you mean free to do what god says? Also I don't have voices in my head, if you are hearing Satan please go see a doctor.

Pascal's Wager is shit.

I don't take sucker bets and it is you who is doing the betting by limiting yourself.

In Reason,

Void

Thanks to the noise this caused me to make, there are now a couple of people looking at me as if I have finally gone over the edge. Thanks for that. 

"That's right.  God did know that you would do this.  And it is NOT His will for you."

That makes ZERO sense. If God is omnicient and omnipotent, none of us can do anything other than his will by defintion. Take your claims to their logical conclusions, please.

Hi, I just found this website by casualty doing a research for a paper about the existence of Jesus Christ and its implications if this turned out to be scientificly proved.Well, it turns out that there´s more evidence (real, documented and reliable evidence) of his existance and the miracles he performed than evidence to deny this.

This said, for the existace and authenticity of Jesus Christ is real (not because just the bible states that but for all the external documentation and studies about this, like Lee Strobel´s researches -an atheist by the way-), that would implicate that his teachings were true. Now, please let me refute your entirely website just saying these word that come in the same bible you are trying to make fun of:  Satan is the god of the world. Do your own research (John 12:31, Ephesians 2:2, 2 Corinthians 4:4, and so on).

The evilness of this world has a direct proportion with our faith. This means, if you trust in the teachings of men more than you do with God nothing good can happen. Do you guys want to know why God "allows" poverty, terrorist attacks, death of inocent people and corruption?. It´s simple: he doesn´t, in the same way He does´t rule this world.

The empire of satan is much more complicated that more people, and christians, think. He managed to creat a physical kingdom on this planet (to destroy us) that works by the name of the illuminati and their well orchestrated agenda, research it, you would have all the answers you´re looking for.

God, as a father and creator don´t impose his will... each and every one of us accepts the sacrifies His son made for mankind if we want. So that we could be born again and spread the good news to those who still live under the realm of satan...

Epic fail. Strobel is not an atheist, he's a fundie.

There is a little yellow man in my bed

And a little yellow man in my head

Paranoia self destroya

Hambi, you are such a loser. We all know that it is my purple snarfwidget that gave you the right to blaspheme him. Just blindly defend him without question and you will be in ignorant bliss.

According to the wholly babble, Satan would be ' The Accuser '. He is sort of Yahweh's prosecuting attorney. If you read Job, you will see that Satan takes action only after deferring to Yahweh. He is perhaps a little overzealous in action, but is acting directly under permission of Yahweh. Read the beginning of Zechariah chapter 3 to get a feel of his action as accuser. It was only when Cyrus the Great invaded Babylon and freed the Hebrew that Satan becomes a villain. There is a reason for this, and it isn't because Satan revolted. The reason was that Cyrus brought a religion along with him known as Zoroastrianism. The Good god of this religion was Ahura Mazda.  The Persians, unlike the Hebrew, had decided that any god that was good could not possibly be responsible for evil. And so they created an evil counterpart for Ahura Mazda, Angra Mainyu. The Hebrew were fascinated by this concept, called dualism. And so the scribes and religious leaders decided that poor Satan fit the bill best. Eureka! No longer was Yahweh to blame! Blame your every ill, disease, plague, stillbirth, and failure on Satan instead!

Yep, until that very moment, Yahweh was the source of evil. After all, was it not he that ordered a servant to put a lying spirit into the mouths of the prophets in 1 kings 22? But by absorbing the element of dualism into their religion, they were able to shift the blame. Unfortunately for them, they failed to edit the Bible well enough to remove the references of Yahweh committing acts of evil prior to the coming of Cyrus.

Of course, years later, along comes Jesus. Being absolutely ignorant of his ancestors having borrowed dualism,  demonstrates his ignorance of Yahweh by continuing to perpetuate the myth of Satan the villain. Surely God incarnate would have known that his followers borrowed this from the Persians. But dull witted, non divine, purely mortal Jesus had no way of knowing that he was guilty of continuing a 500 year old theological plagiarism.

Gosh! Ain't it amazing what you can learn about the wholly babble if you actually study the subject instead of just taking some guy at the pulpit for his word?

But anyhow, I think I get the gist of the OP's point. God loves you. God is you father. God wants what is best for you. But if you don't listen to your loving father, he will torture you for all of eternity!

If you follow the logic of this, it breaks down like so;

1. God wants you to do what he says.

2. God doesn't want to hurt you.

3. If you insist on not doing what God says, he will hurt you, even though all he really wants is for you to do what he says.

4. Therefore, if you choose not to do what God says, it is entirely your fault, and God is not to blame.

OK, so, lets apply this same logic to a different event and see if it still sounds savory.

1. Billy wants to rape you.

2. Billy doesn't want to shoot you.

3. If you insist on not letting Billy rape you, he will shoot you, even though all he really wants is to rape you.

4. Therefore, if you choose not to allow Billy to rape you, it is entirely your fault, and Billy is not to blame.

Doesn't sound as palatable when you look at it that way, does it? But it is even worse than it appears. Whatever Billy does to you is finite. It will end soon enough. But God, not so sweet as rapist Billy, will torture you for all eternity. And why, you ask, would he do this? Why because he was such a lousy architect that he failed to leave you a single shred of evidence to even suggest that he existed. In fact he left tons of evidence indicating that he doesn't exist, just to trick you so he could have the satisfaction of torturing you forever.

So you just go right along worshiping your sadistic monster of a god, Nitzia. I'll take my chances with reality. I've got a sneakng suspicion that we'll both end up at the same place in the end.