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RabidApe's YouTube account has been suspended.
Along with this, several videos on YouTube have also been flagged as violations of copyright by Creation Science Evangelism, Famous Creationist Kent Hovind's organization.
Do a search for "Kent Hovind" on Youtube and you'll find that several videos have been flagged and taken down, including my "Kent Hovind get's pwended" video.
At least one of RabidApe's videos has been flagged as well, and it is fairly improbably coincidence that he should be banned the same day CSE's flagging campaign began, seeing as he is one of those YouTubers on CSE's hitlist.
Spread the word!
Oscar estones is the antichrist
what is the response?
Those who know the good, do the good. - Socrates
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I'm open to suggestion.
I'm just spreading the word about rapidApe. As far as my video goes, I sent in a counter-claim to YouTubes copyright office, but have yet to hear back from them.
There's also an atheist lawyer I met via YouTube that I asked for help with.
However, I haven't heard anything from RabidApe yet.
Oscar estones is the antichrist
I say we go on our own flagging campaign. We could all ban together and flag every christian video on youtube in favor of Kent Hovind and of course christianity.
Whe Uri Geller abused the DMCA, Sapient took him on. I hope RabidApe (or another) does the same. Hopefully, the fallout from this will eventually get the Bovinds permanently banned from YouTube. That would teach them, and ruin their efforts at promotion as well.
Q: "Isn't it a miracle that the universe/life/consciousness/myself exists?"
A: "No."
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For any person P, question Q, and concept X
If the asking of Q depends on the existence of X, and P asks Q
Then X exists, and P should not be surprised of that
That would not be a rational response, that would be a lame response. We're not jack booted thugs.
Q: "Isn't it a miracle that the universe/life/consciousness/myself exists?"
A: "No."
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For any person P, question Q, and concept X
If the asking of Q depends on the existence of X, and P asks Q
Then X exists, and P should not be surprised of that
I don't think that's a good idea, as users who do that can be banned for false flagging. Not to mention that censorship sucks, regardless of what's being censored.
However, the account that is getting everything pulled are these assholes:
http://youtube.com/cseministry
People can always send them a friendly message.
Unfortunately, they've disabled rating their videos and adding comments to the vids or channel.
Oscar estones is the antichrist
Those assholes got that "you're a fucktard" video banned. I sent them a message calling them fascist cocksuckers and telling them to stop flagging videos that counter their bullshit. Fuck, that video was from months ago. YouTube sucks. They should start checking before they remove videos. And how long did it take them to remove the one that violated snopes copyright that attacked the RRS?
Science works whether you believe in it or not.
Pussies for disabling ratings and comments. I reported a few as hate speech, as it kind of is.
I also sent YouTube this:
User CSEMinistries is reporting as a copyright violation any video that criticizes Kent Hovind in any way. Parodies are supposed to be protected. Please look into this.
Science works whether you believe in it or not.
Is the CSE for real? They even recommend two videos. Wow. Are the people running censorship on YouTube braindead? Do they even care to look into what it is they're banning? YouTube really is quite... stupid. They take special interests into account and fail to protect the rights of others, even as far as their own guarantees go. I am hardly surprised to see interesting content vanishing simply never to reappear considering the groups YouTube panders to.
Read it [the bible] because we need more Atheists and nothing will get you there faster than reading the damn bible. Elvis never did no drugs!
*Penn Jillette
You all of course are right it wouldn't be right but I just am so upset with this flagging nonsense, it really tics me off. Socrateone I didn't know false fagging could get a member banned. So why aren't they being banned for false flaggin? They are just banning anyything kent hovind tells them to, I suspect most do without really listening to the videos, they just flagg any video they are told to flag even when it doesn't deserve to be flagge that is false flagging. I still have the urge to give them a taste of their own medicine, a phrase my Father use to tell me, let them see how it feels then maybe they will realize it's wrong and who knows maybe they will stop while considering it's really lying and un-christian like.
Technically, they aren't "flagging" them like normal flaggers. And only exessive and repeated violations of the rules can get someone banned (I think-- got to admit I'm not sure about that one, as I don't know of anyone who has been banned for it).
What they are doing is claiming copyright, which is even worse. I've submitted a counter-claim and I intend of fighting this. I've even just posted a video where Kent Hovind himself states that the videos are NOT copyrighted.
Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gd33m6iSSw
Oscar estones is the antichrist
It's obvious that these people are getting scared. I think as each video and rational idea gets expressed to the masses they start getting more and more afraid. Instead of fighting fire with fire we need to step our overall game up. We need to come up with new things to take it to them. Getting them banned on youtube won't do much, Because they will continue to disregard us or the facts we present. we need to start educating the masses here with cold hard facts! If that means tying them to a fucking chair and forcing them to sit through a science class then so be it! They think it's just trendy to be atheist and they think this whole thing will pass. I have heard many theists I know claim that this "Atheism" build up happens every once and awhile but Christianity will always put it back in it's place. I am sick of the irrationality in America and we need to do everything we can to educate ourselves and them. I think we need to work together to enlighten them 1 theist at a time. We need to be more outspoken and not be afraid to voice our opinons! I commend every one of you for posting videos on youtube , for not being ashamed to speak your mind but we shouldn't stop there. We need to take this to the streets, We need meet this challenge head on. Learn the bible and use it against them, Learn the Qua'ran and use it against them, Use science to our advantage. We are atheist not because we follow trends, but because we have chosen to take a stand against irrationallity and ancient traditions. We are smart enough to make a difference and we must use every resource we have available to do so!
"They make take our lives....But they will never take our FREEDOM!
Co-Founder of the Atheist/Freethought website Pathofreason.com
www.pathofreason.com
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How about just responding a la Nick Ginsberg, re-posting the banned vids in new accounts?
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=MwpGKAO2t5o
[MOD EDIT - fixed link]
Also sprach, how do you do this? I can't download a thread from YouTube.
Miracles don't exist. "Miracle" is a word given to a preposterous event that a theist considers dogmatically advantageous. Def. - Ecclesiastical sensationalism.
Not quite sure - I believe you can save the .wmv from the website posted in the description. If he's so inclined, he could send it thru e-mail, which is displayed in the vid.
Genesis 2:22 - Rib for his pleasure.
Hey! My name is Christopher Boe and I animated the cartoon "Tribute to Kent Hovind." Audio was provided by the YouTube user "eddygoombah." ( http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/399665 )
I think this is the correct place to post my story about this whole thing. Basically our collaborative work, filled with ORIGINAL AUDIO and ORIGINAL ANIMATION was claimed to be COPYRIGHTED by the Creation Science Evangelism. Our hard work was taken down by these frauds! Something serious needs to be done.
In the vastness of astronomical space, that which seems impossible might very well be inevitable.
Chris, read this thread to see what can be done about this DMCA abuse by CSE Ministries.
Hey brian et al,
That was one of my favorites. Hope those motherless fucks pay. I'm about to make one of my vids about this.
Science works whether you believe in it or not.
Creation Science Evangelism put a new video on YouTube!
CSE - Copyright Policy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPer-FjPJJE
It appears you used a publicity brochure and one of Kent's photos on your video so that's probably what he got you for. I guess he didn't like the "rape kent for jesus" sign.
And of course every court in this country would grant that as fair use. I'd bet my life on it.
"I basically subscribed after I checked out that thread that Sapient posted on expenses and the like. Groceries are one of the most important items, so I'm hoping I'm helping there and I'm hoping I help Sapient break even. If I can help stop him from dipping into the retirement fund, I'll be happy." - The Sarge
Having been the recepient of lawsuit threats for copyright violations I'm sure of it. Youtube appears to be telling it's employees to play it on the safe side since they've been getting numerous lawsuit threats from places like Viacom.
Can you retroactively copyright something that never had a copyright to begin with? I thought you could only retroactively extend existing copyrights.
Yesterday noon I was astonished to discover that someone had claimed ownership and/or copyright to videos I had made and I had uploaded to YouTube. At first I thought it was a joke: surely nobody would steal *MY* intellectual property. Then I thought it was merely a mistake, and that someone accidently claimed to own the copyright to my videos.
Then I discovered it was the Kriminal Kent Kult (The New KKK) who had fraudulently claimed copyright on my videos, and I realized it was not a joke or a mistake: it was and is a maclicious attack against my First Amendment right to criticise evil and stupidity. I not only have the civil right to make such videos and post them where and when and how I wish, but I also have the CIVIC DUTY to do so.
None of my videos violate international copyright law: the two videos removed via fraudulent DMCA complaint were removed only to harass and intimidate me. I see that over 30 other videos on YouTube have also been removed, some of which I know for a fact did not violate copyright law: I have copies of them, and they clearly violate no part of international copyright law.
I have placed the two removed videos on a server outside the USA. http://holysmoke.org/removed.htm points to a web page with links to those videos. Anyone watching those videos will see that they do not violate anyone's copyright, and that *I* *OWN* *THE* *COPYRIGHT* to both videos.
The videos that the Kriminal Kent Kult claimed belong to them, and/or violate their copyright, are *MY* property. I consider their fraudulent use of the DMCA law to be theft of my intellectual property.
The abuse I have been subjected to by the Kriminal Kent Kult has convinced me that I must make many more videos about Hovind and his lies and bullshit. Stay tuned.....
Videos deleted by CSE.
Certainly the phone calls from jail and the phone calls from the grad students had NOTHING to do with CSE copyright
more vids deleted by CSE
Video showing how CSE dont even have the copyright to videos they have produced.
You cannot copyright public domain material. CSE have already declared that all their videos are public domain.