Why is atheism not a religion?
The defintion of religion is: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith. Now, what I got from the debate on ABC, is that athiests want to debunk religion. Now, if you are an athiest, you do not believe there is a God, you belive in science. You have that right. Shouldn't people who believe in God have the same rights? Why is intelligent creation not taught in the public schools? Why do we have to take Darwinism as fact? Should there not be a balance? My biggests problems, other than rejecting God, is the condescending fashion you guys use to argue, athiests challenge everything in courts because it can't be done at the ballott box. You come off as trying to be intellectually superior. It is rather insulting. If you guys want to go hug trees and bow at the alter of junk science, its your choice. But, I should have the same rights; especially when it comes to my child. I do not need him indoctrinated in the schools with something I know to be false and have to come home and try and undue what this godless school system has taught him. Most people I have argued this point with say, put him in private school. Well, I should not have to, considering I pay taxes.
You obviously missed the points of what Christians have done to us. Also, we never said that Christians are the root of the problems with this country (assuming you are refering to the US). However there are problems that Christianity introduces into politics and legislation that do cause problemsn and can lead to problems (read A letter to a Christian Nation by Sam Harris, he brings up some great points). Three I like to bring up (and there are plenty more) are the three big ones; abortion, gay rights and marriage, and stem cell research. All of the bad things and the reasons that laws exist banning these issues have ONLY to do with religion. If it weren't for religion, gay marriage would not be an issue cause its only in the bible that there are issues with gays, abortions would not be an issue because it should be a woman's right to do with her body as she wants and one of the big ones for me, stem cell research which could save a lot of people but is being held back by religion because of some stupid superstition.
And on the terroist comment, like Sapient brought up in the debate, terrorists don't have to be violent. The threat of violence (in this context hell) can also be attributed to people we label as terrorists.
Quote:Explain to me theory then [sarcasm skipped -MS].
Gladly. In fact, I just did in another thread, and I have a feeling that I will have to do it over and over again.----- cut here -----Quote:There are many theories of the orgins of the universe but we can't seem to agree on just one so why not plug in one involving God?
Well, because anything involving god is not a theory; it's speculation that does not deserve to stand in the same line as what scientists know as theory. A real theory has some properties:
Additionally, scientific theories tend to be peer reviewed and published to the public. By scientific standards, we should have discarded God long long time ago, on all counts.
- It can explain the subject matter only relying on verifiable facts or other theories
- It can predict other instances of subject matter
- It can be independently verified by anyone
- It does not contradict itself or any other theories that were shown to be valid for now
- If any of the above conditions are violated, the theory is either revised or discarded.
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Atheism comes off as a religion for the fact it is a belief you have. It doesn't matter if you believe in God that you can't see or if you believe in some explosion that happened which no one witnessed.
We have no reasons to believe in the former. We have reasons to believe in the latter, and if it turns out that the latter is wrong we'll just shrug and look for a better answer.
At least in the bible there is testimony
No there isn't. In bible, there are many words none of which can be construed as testimony.
and is one of the oldest history books around.
It is not a history book just the same way as Star Trek is not a documentary.
My friend the bible is to a history book. This is amazing. But it lets me know what I have to deal with as my son progresses through school. Like I said believe what you want, but as the bible states people who follow Christ will be persucuted. That just proves what ministers have been saying...Christians are under attack.