Person who doesn't really understand logic
This is from the site http://www.uncensored-gabfest.com was after my "why I hate religion" post and how I explained why I don't believe in religion:
Actually when I use the word "religion" I mean believing that something supernatural exists- I believe there is no god through logic, rationality, etc - not any sort of faith. I just don't believe in things without evidence.
No, you don't believe there is no God through logic. You believe there is no God because you believe there is no God. To support an epistemological belief in any meaningful way, the logic must rest upon observation. Once the concept of God is introduced, and it has been around for millenia, you can only believe in it, believe in not it, or not know. You are chosing to believe in not it, an act of faith. The truth is that you do not know. Our education has a corrupting influence, however. We are told to guess when we don't know. Guessing causes a great deal of mischief in the real world, outside of school.
I've met atheists who were every bit as fanatical about their beliefs as any Catholic, Baptist or whatever. I've seen them become irrationally angry or make a public spectacle of themselves denouncing religious people for being religious. They have an epistemological belief that there is no God, and an ethic that, therefore, they should insult anyone who has a different belief. Therefore, that kind of atheism is precisely a religion.
The business about bald being a hairstyle is simply a false analogy. By that definition, an atheist would be someone who had never heard the word "god," and that isn't the case.
In this conversation there is no such thing as evidence because there is no agreement on what constitutes evidence or what belief it supports. The account of a piller of fire leading the Israelites out of Egypt could be called evidence. A devout Jew would say it was evidence for the existence of God, as written down by witnesses. A devout atheist would say that it was the evidence of the existence of fanaticism. Evidence or the lack thereof is a meaningful concept in this discussion only if we agree on it.
Actually no religious book can count as evidence - using it is a logical fallacy known as circular logic.
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