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Church youth leader begs for us to stop.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 5:21 PM
Subject: [General Question] hi

> Chris sent a message using the contact form at
> http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact.
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> I am a youth leader at my chruch, And I ask you with all my heart. Please
> stop targeting teens. If for no other reason, but What if you are wrong. I
> know you are good people and you don't need to think how I think, but
> please, I am so scared of your site and I know thats not you want, cuz all
> the Atheists that I know are good people, So please reconsider your site. -
> With Love Chris

Geez. How about you stop mentally abusing children and then I'll stop trying to help them get over the bullshit you shove in them?

Deal?

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Quote: I am a  youth

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I am a  youth leader at my chruch, And I ask you with all my heart. Please stop targeting teens.

You first.

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If for no other reason, but What if you are wrong.

What if you're promoting the wrong god, and the real one is getting madder every day you do it. (Credit to Homer Simpson.)

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I know you are good people and you don't need to think how I think, but please, I am so scared of your site and I know thats not you want, cuz all the Atheists that I know are good people, So please reconsider your site. - With Love  Chris

I'm not responsible for the site, but still, no.

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 Pascal's wager.  What if

 Pascal's wager.  What if you are wrong and Allah is the true god? Then you are sending people to hell.  But seriously are you going to stop targeting teens?  I mean abusing the minds of the young with fear and false hope?

Sounds made up...

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   Kids are the future,

   Kids are the future, the fundys must be stopped. I think RRS cartoons are in order. We need to make the kids laugh at fundy concepts. When will there be equal time for atheists on the tv.

PS, jesus was an early atheist, the bible is mostly lies, edited by devils !!! Geezz they fundys even killed him ..... "Atheists for Jesus" .....  "Fundys would make Jesus cry" ..... 


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hi [You Respond]

cpdirosa@dirosafamily.com wrote:

I am a youth leader at my chruch, And I ask you with all my heart. Please stop targeting teens. If for no other reason, but What if you are wrong. I know you are good people and you don't need to think how I think, but please, I am so scared of your site and I know thats not you want, cuz all the Atheists that I know are good people, So please reconsider your site. - With Love Chris

lol wow. If you want to respond directly to him, feel free (I have not). Otherwise, have at it here. (I figured this isn't all that interesting but is full of so many things wrong that it is funny to respond to.)

Edit - Damn Brian is on top of his email today ;p 


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What is it RRS should stop

What is it RRS should stop doing?

Stop providing theists with the oportunity to make a case for the deity they claim? Stop providing atheists with an outlet to converse and socialize? Stop challenging magical claims like virgin births and zombie gods?

If atheists are good people, then you wont get cooties being here. You might actually learn something.  

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Quote: Please stop

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Please stop targeting teens.

I wasn't aware we were targeting teens. I thought we were trying to tear up all irrational thought. Actually, in my humble opinion teens can be forgiven for being irrational. Years of brainwashing can take awhile to overcome.

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I am so scared of your site and I know thats not you want

Don't be afraid young Padawan. Be assured it is what we want.

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the Atheists that I know are good people

Why thank you. Wish I could say the same for theists but at least you sound like a good person. Although you really should be careful with broad generalizations. Not all atheists are good people.

 

 

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----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 5:21 PM Subject: [General Question] hi > Chris sent a message using the contact form at > http://www.rationalresponders.com/contact. > > I am a youth leader at my chruch, And I ask you with all my heart. Please > stop targeting teens. If for no other reason, but What if you are wrong. I > know you are good people and you don't need to think how I think, but > please, I am so scared of your site and I know thats not you want, cuz all > the Atheists that I know are good people, So please reconsider your site. - > With Love Chris
Geez. How about you stop mentally abusing children and then I'll stop trying to help them get over the bullshit you shove in them? Deal? In Rationality, Brian Sapient www.RationalResponders.com www.FreethinkingTeens.com www.prayerstojake.com www.MargaretDowney.com www.atheistvolunteers.org

Sir -

What you have presented here is called Pascal's Wager and it is a logical fallacy.  How do you know you're right?  What if the god you worship is the incorrect god? 

Teenagers have a right to receive all the information they can in order to make an informed decision.  Too often, children and teens are indoctrinated with religious beliefs and are never given the oppurtunity to see outside of their own blind faith.  This leads to ignorance, bigotry and fear.  I'm afraid I cannot apologize for this site because I think it's helpful and informative. 

I appreciate your kind words regarding those of us who are non-believers.  Atheists are generally one of the most reviled groups in this country. 

I hope this site keeps running for as long as it needs to.  I also hope that you realize one day that you have nothing to be afraid of.  We are doing the right thing. 

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With Love Chris

With Love Chris wrote:
Please  stop targeting teens.

Because that's your job, right?  Are you worried about a shrinking customer base? 

With Love Chris wrote:

...all  the Atheists that I know are good people

Thank you.  Atheists can be good people. Which effectively means there is no need for  churches,  much less youth groups with neurotic leaders. 

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Awww... Brian made the poor

Awww... Brian made the poor man cry...  someone get this guy an ice cream cone.


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Spoken like a typical

Spoken like a typical brainwashed theist, that guy.  I feel bad for people like that.  So brainwashed and so narrow-minded.

Liberate your mind. Fuck religion.


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Quote: ... but please, I am

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... but please, I am so scared of your site ...

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


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Sapient wrote: Quote:

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please, I am so scared of your site and I know thats not you want, cuz all > the Atheists that I know are good people, So please reconsider your site. - > With Love Chris

 

You are afraid and should be thus.  We look to eradicate your god from everything but history books.  We bring rationality and clear thought to those who choose lives of ignorance.  We are the blazing, incandescent brand that will leave an "A" so livid, so scarlet on your mind that you will not go an hour without reflecting on reality.

We should meet on another, Chris.  You say that you only know atheists who are also "good people."  I am not "good people."  I freely admit that I take pleasure in your discomfort and experience schadenfreude at the prospect of your further discomfort.  I take that which I desire and feel no remorse for anyone who gets in my way.  As far as I am concerned the planet is here for me.

Your leaders would call me a Narcissist, if they were so literate.  They would be correct.  So, know that I want a planet free of the imbecilic influence of your godly thoughts.  Remember, I always get what I want.  Know that we are coming and we are coming for your teens and you.

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Know that we are coming and we are coming for your teens and you.

How much for the women?

I want to buy your women!

 

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Hambydammit

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Know that we are coming and we are coming for your teens and you.

How much for the women?

I want to buy your women!

 

Thanks Hamby. I was trying to be all wicked and villainous, and you go and quote the Blues Brothers.  Geesh.  That's the last time I try to be nefarious in this thread!

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See, Nero, you have two

See, Nero, you have two problems with being wicked and villainous. Assuming that most people, like me, have come to equate you with Barney Fife, it's simply not possible to take your evil-ness seriously. There's always that sing-song delivery, and the goofy oversized hat getting in the way.

Second, your writing style is simply too evocative. It's impossible for me not to go into free-association mode. Since my brain is filled with comedies, you simply come across more like Dr. Evil. Or maybe Peter Sellers as Dr. Strangelove.

 

 

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Hambydammit wrote: See,

Hambydammit wrote:

See, Nero, you have two problems with being wicked and villainous. Assuming that most people, like me, have come to equate you with Barney Fife, it's simply not possible to take your evil-ness seriously. There's always that sing-song delivery, and the goofy oversized hat getting in the way.

Second, your writing style is simply too evocative. It's impossible for me not to go into free-association mode. Since my brain is filled with comedies, you simply come across more like Dr. Evil. Or maybe Peter Sellers as Dr. Strangelove.

 

ha ha!!!  Barney Fife ruined you, Nero!!

 I was just trying to be nice to the preacher guy in hopes that he'd check the forum and perhaps engage in some conversation.  Then maybe we wouldn't be so scared of us.  On second thought... Sticking out tongue

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Hambydammit wrote: Since

Hambydammit wrote:
Since my brain is filled with comedies, you simply come across more like Dr. Evil. Or maybe Peter Sellers as Dr. Strangelove.

Wait...Dr. Strangelove was a comedy?!

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Hambydammit wrote: See,

Hambydammit wrote:

See, Nero, you have two problems with being wicked and villainous. Assuming that most people, like me, have come to equate you with Barney Fife, it's simply not possible to take your evil-ness seriously. There's always that sing-song delivery, and the goofy oversized hat getting in the way.

Second, your writing style is simply too evocative. It's impossible for me not to go into free-association mode. Since my brain is filled with comedies, you simply come across more like Dr. Evil. Or maybe Peter Sellers as Dr. Strangelove.

 

 

Now, my avatar is all dark and brooding.  So, beware Hamby!  I am super mean and stuff now!

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Nero wrote: Hambydammit

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Hambydammit wrote:

See, Nero, you have two problems with being wicked and villainous. Assuming that most people, like me, have come to equate you with Barney Fife, it's simply not possible to take your evil-ness seriously. There's always that sing-song delivery, and the goofy oversized hat getting in the way.

Second, your writing style is simply too evocative. It's impossible for me not to go into free-association mode. Since my brain is filled with comedies, you simply come across more like Dr. Evil. Or maybe Peter Sellers as Dr. Strangelove.

 

 

Now, my avatar is all dark and brooding. So, beware Hamby! I am super mean and stuff now!

Nope.  You sound like an evil villain of the Dark Helmet persuasion.  Tee hee.   

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Maybe churches should stop

Maybe churches should stop targeting children starting at age two. Have they considered just not exposing religion to their kids until they are able to reason for themsleves?

Nero(in response to a Youth pastor) wrote:

You are afraid and should be thus.  We look to eradicate your god from everything but history books.  We bring rationality and clear thought to those who choose lives of ignorance.  We are the blazing, incandescent brand that will leave an "A" so livid, so scarlet on your mind that you will not go an hour without reflecting on reality.


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Raki wrote: Maybe churches

Raki wrote:
Maybe churches should stop targeting children starting at age two. Have they considered just not exposing religion to their kids until they are able to reason for themsleves?
But that would reduce church memberships. And they can't have that, now, can they?


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Heh, you REALLY should get

Heh, you REALLY should get this guy on a show. It would be hilarious Smiling

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Response to Church youth leader begs for help

I am a youth leader at my chruch, And I ask you with all my heart. Please > stop targeting teens. If for no other reason, but What if you are wrong. I > know you are good people and you don't need to think how I think, but > please, I am so scared of your site and I know thats not you want, cuz all > the Atheists that I know are good people, So please reconsider your site. - > With Love Chris

I wonder if this person has set up any 'special ops' within his group to help kids stay away from websites like this?  I mean, GEESUS...who wants teens to have any information that may help them escape the hold religion has on them! This youth pastor may be out of a job if that happens, if you ask me, he is being selfish! Smiling

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  Definitely my favorite

 

Definitely my favorite email since coming to this site.

 

Ah...

 

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Definitely my favorite email since coming to this site.

 

Ah...

 

*soaks it in* 

Nothing like a theist begging the RRS to stop. Classic comedy.

Nero(in response to a Youth pastor) wrote:

You are afraid and should be thus.  We look to eradicate your god from everything but history books.  We bring rationality and clear thought to those who choose lives of ignorance.  We are the blazing, incandescent brand that will leave an "A" so livid, so scarlet on your mind that you will not go an hour without reflecting on reality.


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We'll stop if you will...no

We'll stop if you will...no more youth ministeries for you okay? There it is!  an even trade. 

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Rocas511 wrote:We'll stop if

Rocas511 wrote:

We'll stop if you will...no more youth ministeries for you okay? There it is!  an even trade. 

Of course that will never happen.

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What if you are wrong?

What if you are wrong?

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