Logic Class?
Posted on: July 13, 2007 - 9:55pm
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Logic Class?
I'd think this might be something good to have. If not a class maybe create a study guide or have a study group.
The first step would be to outline the goals of the class then outlining what needs to be done to reach those goals.
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I would enroll in this class, as long as I could fit it into my schedule with work and college.
I took a logic class about 15yrs ago when I was in college, I would be interested in a refresher as long as I could fit it into my schedule as well.
"The Puritans gave thanks for being preserved from the Indians, and we give thanks for being preserved from the Puritans." - Finley Peter Dunne
I love studying logic and debate.
Some sort of e-book type guide would be sweet.
A logic class would be awesome. So few people today seem to know what logical fallacies are, much less how a logical statement functions. I'm behind the idea of a logic class 100%
I think the best approach is to study the fallacies first
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/alphabet.html
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As it turns out, there's a handy reference right here on the site. Somebody must be really cool to have written such a thing...
It's not complete, as I've only gotten through syllogism, but I plan to add symbolic logic as soon as my 93 other projects get under control.
http://www.rationalresponders.com/argument_and_debate_forms_and_techniqu...
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What kind of logic are we talking about. There is mathematical logic, philosophical logic, Boolean logic and many more.
Your college should already offer a logic class actually. Usually its a lower level philosophy course. At my university its called "critical thinking" though they recently split it up to suit different majors better. They go over fallacies, syllogisms, that sort of thing.
My favorite book on the subject is Sweet Reason. Molleen Matsumura writes a fantastic column with the same name, but I'm referring to the book (below, be sure to purchase through RRS). It has tips, hints, anecdotes, and funny stories with a light-hearted tone to the writing. It's a joy to read and a great subject. For you eggheads out there (which I hope all of you are), it's a large book with a very comprehensive coverage of a variety of logical methods.
ps. don't overemphasize the importance of logic in a debate. I'm no expert, but I hear that knowing your opponent and playing to the crowd are at least as important as presenting executing sound logic.
Sweet Reason: A Field Guide to Modern Logic (Textbooks in Mathematical Sciences) (Paperback)
by Tom Tymoczko (Author), Jim Henle (Author) "Logic is concerned with what makes reasoning good and what makes arguments valid..." (more)
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argument_and_debate_forms_and_techniques_part_1 link
You fell pray to one of the largest fallacies of all Hamby. Fallacy ad forgetfulness. Your link was too long bro, but I reposted it here. Cheers!
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Hamby's manual doesn't cover logic in the general sense.
While debate typically uses logic, logic is independent of debate. Logic is more useful in the passive evaluation of arguments than in active opposition. Pure logic derives new correlations via tautology, not from additional evidence, and is akin to mathematical proof. This is what leads to the predictive capacity of logic, and one of the strongest weapons in both debate and chess - planning ahead of your opponent and guiding them to their doom!
So yes, we need a logic class. I could probably help develop a lesson plan and whatnot, but my schedule is too erratic to teach the whole thing myself.