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Christianity Is Not A Religion? My head Hurts...

Posted on: May 25, 2007 - 1:10pm
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Christianity Is Not A Religion? My head Hurts...

Sorry if this is in the wrong area, but I consider this an Irrational Precept. There are a few places on this forum I've come acrossed where a couple of theists have claimed that Chrstianity isn't a religion but "the belief Jesus as the Messiah."

I'm curious...where the hell are they getting their definition of religion from? Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Religion states:

re·li·gion      /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-lij-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun
1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4.the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5.the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6.something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7.religions, Archaic. religious rites.
8.Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.
Now if we look at Christianity, Do they have a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe considered as the creation of a superhuman agency? Let's see...creationism...check! Do they have devotional and ritual observances? Let's see, Sundays, Christmas? Easter? check! Do they have a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs? A frightening one, but sure...check!So it seems that they fit definition 1 spot on.Do they have a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects?  Well hell...their excuse clause "the belief Jesus as the Messiah." fit's spot on with that and notice that their "religion" is given as a specific example.So I'm curious...what orifice are they pulling this "Christinity is not a religion" from? What do they put on questionaires that ask which religion they are? Why are they now ashamed to to associate themselves as a religion? And do they really think that trying to redefine themselves is going to change anything?

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Posted on: May 25, 2007 - 2:19pm #1
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Well, the thing is, some

Well, the thing is, some people like to change around definitions to suit their arguments. 

Christianity is a religion.  There is absolutely no wiggle room here.  Tell those people who insist that it isn't to open a dictionary and look up 'religion'.

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Posted on: May 25, 2007 - 2:38pm #2
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Biodroid wrote: So I'm

Biodroid wrote:
So I'm curious...what orifice are they pulling this "Christinity is not a religion" from?

The same one they don't want the gays to use. 

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Posted on: May 25, 2007 - 2:57pm #3
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I wonder if they're the same

I wonder if they're the same dumbasses that insist atheism is a religion....