Empty threats from an irrational Christian store owner
The War on Easter has brought us a $1 donation from St. Jude Religious Stores!! We're so thankful that Russell Davis owner of St. Jude has decided to help us frethinkers spread the word that Christianity is dangerous and irrational. (even if his intentions were malicious)
Here is his site: http://www.st-jude.com
After we received the donation I wrote to Russ, to get the ball rolling. Russ, you are invited to set up a show time and appear on our show and attempt to make a tenable defense of your god. (Russ will be directed to this thread)
Why donate money to us? Are you secretly atheists?
His full response to me, along with my rebuttal to follow:
An excellent question ! The answer is quite simple. It enabled me to find out some information about you. Now I know exactly who you are, where you operate from, your IP address, who hosts your website, your telephone number... well, I think you get the idea. And I thank you for assisting me in gathering this information. This will now better enable The United States Justice Department's Hate Crimes Unit to deal with you.
And to answer your question, No, I am not a secret atheist. I would however like to suggest that you may wish to say a prayer to St. Jude. Being an atheist, you are probably not aware that St. Jude is the patron saint of hopeless causes. You see, Brian, you are violating some very serious Federal laws with your actions. I'm suspecting that you're some teenager that just isn't aware of the laws. But if you do end up being prosecuted and found guilty of hate crimes.... well then you'll definitely be needing St. Jude. Thanks again for your assistance. Good luck in prison.
AND NOW MY REBUTTAL...
Now I know exactly who you are
Funny because paypal doesn't make my real name public. You also suspect that I'm some teenager so obviously you don't know exactly who I am, as I'm not a teen. However we know now exactly what you are: A LIAR.
where you operate from
You mean an address I used to use, but haven't been at for a while?
your IP address
I'm calling your bluff, I defy you to post my IP address. The notion that somehow through paypal you could find my IP is "beyond belief."
In fact, I'll send a $5 donation back to you, just for your computer hackery abilities if you know my IP address, post it... you'll get $5.
who hosts your website
Whoa! That'll get you far.
Here's who hosts yours: http://www.adp-micro.com/
I have a hard time believing that someone who would use adp-micro for hosting would have the ability to get my ip, real name, real address, without doing something illegal.
Oh here's your "who is" info, no purchase required:
St. Jude Religious Stores, Inc.
3506 Cottman Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19149
Domain name: ST-JUDE.COM
3506 Cottman Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19149
Other contact numbers...
Home #: (215) 708-3740
Philadelphia Christian Myth Propogation store: (215) 752-5307
Neshaminy Christian Myth Propogation store: (215) 364-3045
Willow Grove Christian Myth Propogation store: (215) 659-8802
Valley Forge Christian Myth Propogation store: (610) 491-8199
your telephone number...
You mean that non-working number? Go ahead post the number for everyone to call so they can see that it doesn't work. Didn't test the number beforehand, eh? No proof for your claims? Sound familiar? (aka Christianity)
well, I think you get the idea.
Yeah, I get the idea. You're a liar who is not above intimidation to get your point across. That point of course, is that you are scared of reality and will fervently reject it, when it is gently placed in front of your face.
By the way, I'm not intimidated, you've actually made my point. Which is that Christians are hypocrites who have no problem preaching, proselytizing, evangelizing, and shoving their god down peoples throats... BUT... when it's done to them, they get their panties in a bunch, and lie to intimidate those who act a little like they do.
This will now better enable The United States Justice Department's Hate Crimes Unit to deal with you.
It's because of your waste of time complaint that they will be 2 minutes slower in responding to the girl who gets beaten for being black tommorrow. Way to waste our governments resources, what a great person you are. :roll:
The government states that a hate crime would fit one of these categories:
offense types: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, aggravated assault, simple assault, intimidation, robbery, burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, arson, and destruction/damage/vandalism of property.
Now obviously we did nothing violent or destructive, so throw all those crimes away. I could see you claiming that we fit one of the two following definitions of hate crime, let's review:
destruction/damage/vandalism of property: This is rather simple. For you to be able to prove this claim, you must prove we destroyed or damaged your property... NOT!! Remove the piece of tape, and your free from truth for another day!
intimidation: If you think we were intimidating, you should snap out of it. Look at your lies and empty threats as means of intimidation. Look at yourself, hypocrite. And of course it goes without saying, that what we're hoping to end, what you're peddling for a living... is the intimidation that if you don't believe in God and/or do good works that you burn in hell for an eternity. Nevermind, you have no proof for a hell, a God, or a Jesus... believe, or burn!
You probably don't realize this, but the FBI is well aware of our efforts. They had to help us restore www.waroneaster.org this week, after it was attacked illegally by Christians. They had our backs, and stated no qualms. They were very helpful to us, I hardly think you'll get anywhere with them. You are full of empty threats and hate intimidation! Step away from the mirror.
And to answer your question, No, I am not a secret atheist.
Well duh!! You think I was serious? :roll:
I would however like to suggest that you may wish to say a prayer to St. Jude. Being an atheist, you are probably not aware that St. Jude is the patron saint of hopeless causes.
I grew up as a Christian... you sure you know "exactly" who I am? And no thanks, I don't need to pray. If Jude couldn't save Jesus from being crucified and save himself from being beaten to death with a club and then beheaded... I'll save the prayer. Thanks though.
You see, Brian, you are violating some very serious Federal laws with your actions.
If putting a flyer up is a serious federal crime, I'd like to know what federal crimes, aren't serious. I hope you go after the folks who put flyers on the Rite Aid around the corner. Or the guy who posts the yardsale sign on the lightpost near your store. OHHHH, I forgot you're a hypocrite... you probably don't do that.
I'm suspecting that you're some teenager that just isn't aware of the laws.
And yet you know "exactly who" I am.
Your statement begs the question... If I was just a teenager that didn't know the laws, wouldn't the moral course of action be to contact me and show me which laws I broke, so I could learn from my mistakes without having to serve jail time? Wouldn't this give you a greater chance to show the love of Jesus and show me how great believers could be?
Considering you claim to have all my contact info, which you don't, that would've been the more moral course of action. (in my book)
But if you do end up being prosecuted and found guilty of hate crimes.... well then you'll definitely be needing St. Jude.
You realize if I am found guilty of a hate crime for this, you will fuel more and more atheists to help end this mindfuck that is known as Christianity? Why would I need Saint Jude after I've lost my "hopeless cause?" You advocate praying to Saints immediatly after they've let you down at such an important time? Is that not ridiculous? (last question rhetorical)
On a sidenote, surely you've heard of the Christians who were protesting at a homosexual gathering in Philadelphia a few years ago. Now, they ignored the cops, preached hate of others different than them, and obstructed... yet they were exonerated and the charges were dropped. If I ever do see a courtroom because of some overzealous agent, I'm sure to be vindicated. Unless of course it's too late, unless of course we already are a theocracy. At that point it wouldn't matter anyway, as we'd all be fucked, even you! What are you going to do with all the scientists locked up?
Good luck in prison.
Prison might be a good place for me. Considering over 99% of it's inhabitants are religious while only 80% of our countries citizens are, is an illustration that religious people are less moral than those without religion. Within the walls of a prison I (the more moral one) can teach people that this notion that they can do whatever they want as long as they believe in Jesus is false. Without this bullshit non-sensical salvation story they can start accepting a little personal responsibility for themselves.
Once again, you are invited to appear on our show this Saturday, April 22nd. Yell at us, ask us questions, let us ask you questions, threaten us with more lies... basically, we're game. Are you?