Zeeboe vs. Todd Friel
So I finally called The Way of the Master Radio and spoke with Todd Friel on the radio. We had a very nice civil discussion/debate about Christianity.
I told him I was agnostic and that I did believe a higher power might exist, but I wanted to know why I should believe in the Christian God.
I brought up The Rational Response Squad, The God Who Wasn't There DVD, why I believe following God is like a mental illness and he had no response to any of that.
I brought up how there is no evidence that Jesus exist and he said that the bible was the evidence. His whole argument was that the bible is proof of God's existence. And I brought up all the contradictions, how the bible supports stoning people to death, the Jewish argument why Jesus wasn't the messiah and so on.
And he also brought up (for no reason) why God was real by looking at creation...even though I did tell him a few times I never said I didn't believe in God. I wanna know why we should follow the Christian God and when he started talking about creationism, I got a little bold and cut him off and nicely told him again that I never said I didn't believe in a higher power.....I had a feeling he was going to try and start a creationism vs. evoultuion debate, but I stopped him because I knew I'd get owned because I don't know enough about evoultuion to defend it.
In the end, nothing really came out of the debate. He encouraged me to study other religions and that he believed Jesus will speak to me.
The whole debate was pretty similar to the RRS/Way of the Master debate....and I'm not trying to be bias, but I think I won the debate because he couldn't answer any of my harder questions and kept using the bible as his tool for everything.
In closing, I've seen plenty of religious and atheism debates and taken part in a few and you can literally debate about it until the cows come home. So Todd and I pretty much agreed to disagree and we both agreed that I still need to do some more studying before declaring myself an agonistic.
Todd's a very kind, smart man and I have nothing but respect for him and nothing negative to say about him. He treated me with nothing but respect and even told me he thought I was very smart and he enjoyed talking with me.
I told him how I plan to read the evidence bible and he said he'd send it to me for free, along with some other stuff which I thought was very, very nice of him. I would have bought the evidence bible beforehand but it's a little pricey and I gotta save, so I was very grateful and appreciative that Todd is giving that book to me.
So Todd...(or anyone who works for him)....if you're out ther lurking this forum for some reason....I still like you a lot dude! You're very cool, funny and smart. I hope we can talk again and thanks for the book.