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You can find me on myspace: http://myspace.com/politicalhumanist

I am doing time for 2nd Degree Assault in Olympia, WA. What did I have fun doing for this crime? Beat the living shit out of a fundie muthafucka peckerwood bitch-ass Church of God member. Proud of it too!


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I'm not really sure how to handle people like you. Well, I take that back. Your beliefs are just as vile as any fundamentalist's who calls for violence against people of differring views. If you are posting here with the hopes of gaining the admiration of the members, you are sadly mistaken. My suggestion is to spend your time in the confines of the justice system educating yourself on human compassion instead of using flawed logic to justify hatred and violence against someone, regardless of the idiocy of their views.

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AtheistConvictXIIISur13 wrote:
You can find me on myspace: http://myspace.com/politicalhumanist

Finally ventured over from IG, eh PH? I imagine you'll see the same type of distaste for your hostility here as you do at IG, but that's never bothered you at all. Eye-wink

You probably should clue people in to more of the story or at least link a thread on IG where it's discussed. And, because I've been out of the loop for a few weeks... how's sobriety going?

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Sapient wrote:
AtheistConvictXIIISur13 wrote:
You can find me on myspace: http://myspace.com/politicalhumanist

Finally ventured over from IG, eh PH? I imagine you'll see the same type of distaste for your hostility here as you do at IG, but that's never bothered you at all. Eye-wink

You probably should clue people in to more of the story or at least link a thread on IG where it's discussed. And, because I've been out of the loop for a few weeks... how's sobriety going?

Welcome aboard!

Soberity? Only smoked 60.00 in crack, otherwise fine.


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AtheistConvictXIIISur13 wrote:

Soberity? Only smoked 60.00 in crack, otherwise fine.

Since 3 months ago when you quit, or since yesterday morning?

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AtheistConvictXIIISur13 wrote:

Soberity? Only smoked 60.00 in crack, otherwise fine.

Since 3 months ago when you quit, or since yesterday morning?

Can't say, not sure who might reading this forum. Eye-wink


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I'm not really sure how to handle people like you. Well, I take that back. Your beliefs are just as vile as any fundamentalist's who calls for violence against people of differring views. If you are posting here with the hopes of gaining the admiration of the members, you are sadly mistaken. My suggestion is to spend your time in the confines of the justice system educating yourself on human compassion instead of using flawed logic to justify hatred and violence against someone, regardless of the idiocy of their views.

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GrimJesta wrote:
applesforadam wrote:
I'm not really sure how to handle people like you. Well, I take that back. Your beliefs are just as vile as any fundamentalist's who calls for violence against people of differring views. If you are posting here with the hopes of gaining the admiration of the members, you are sadly mistaken. My suggestion is to spend your time in the confines of the justice system educating yourself on human compassion instead of using flawed logic to justify hatred and violence against someone, regardless of the idiocy of their views.

Werd.

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I agree. So my atheism is vile? Lol fucking funny clown. If I were him I would clown on somebody else.


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AtheistConvictXIIISur13 wrote:
GrimJesta wrote:
applesforadam wrote:
I'm not really sure how to handle people like you. Well, I take that back. Your beliefs are just as vile as any fundamentalist's who calls for violence against people of differring views. If you are posting here with the hopes of gaining the admiration of the members, you are sadly mistaken. My suggestion is to spend your time in the confines of the justice system educating yourself on human compassion instead of using flawed logic to justify hatred and violence against someone, regardless of the idiocy of their views.

Werd.

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I agree. So my atheism is vile?.

Don't be so dishonest. He's clearly referring to your advocation for violence, and your pride over being violent, not the fact that you don't believe in a god.

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If the guy did something to warrant an ass-whipping, like threatened you or your own or threatened to damage your property, then amen. But you're making it sound like you kicked his ass just for being a Christian, which is rediculous.

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Agreed, and I appreciate having other rational minds able to defend my statement. There is a time and place where violence is necessary. However, this does not seem to be one, at least not in the way it was put by you. And as for saying ANYTHING about your beliefs as an atheist, I think you drew that out of a flawed conclusion you drew that atheists should for whetever reason be allowed to use violence at their whim against non-atheists. Like I said, flawed logic. And the name calling doesn't do much for your case either.

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Yeah, the fight happened with my fundie stepdad hatin' on me, yelling, calling me a smart / dumb ass, idiot...

I smiled until he called me a dirty heathen atheist scum. And I snapped. He was out of work for 6 weeks, in the hospital for a week, and the only thing I used was my hand.


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applesforadam wrote:
And the name calling doesn't do much for your case either.

No, I'm definately a clown... :smt006

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There is a time and place where violence is necessary. However, this does not seem to be one...

For the record I agree with that statement. I was asked in email if my open arm welcoming of PH was advocacy of his actions, and it isn't. I'm still glad to see him here.

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ha, i guess we could petition to sapient and team for a name change to rational clown squad


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For the record I agree with that statement. I was asked in email if my open arm welcoming of PH was advocacy of his actions, and it isn't. I'm still glad to see him here.

Oh yea, it would be supremely ignorant of me to deny his right to voice his opinions in any format anywhere. Any person who truly wishes for rational solutions can't alienate any person, regardless of their ideas. It just goes back to the basic premise that we should be dealing with ideas, not the people who hold them.

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There's also a history that I've witnessed, PH goes way back in the community. I want good things for him and from him. I can relate in some ways, and our stories sometimes are very similar. It's not just about alienation. Eye-wink

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I've always liked you Politicalhumanist/AtheistConvictXIIISur13, you've got a great sense of humor and a sharp wit and often make great points - even more so when you're not on crack.

Anyway, I wish you the best as always.

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And for the record I certainly don't condone or advocate what PH did to land in the clink either, but I must admit that I do understand it.

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I completely understand the instinct to do what he did in that situation, but I just prefer to call a spade a spade, especially when there doesn't seem to be any remorse for the action other than for the fact that it landed him in jail. It is a good opportunity to experience the thought process involved in perpetrating such an action though, and his ideas help us understand how regardless of the side of the fence someone is on (theist/atheist), both sides are equally able to misconstrue a belief system to allow it to justify an act like this one.
I do hope for the best though, I just think remorse is a good first step.

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