Richard Dawkins appears on South Park

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Richard Dawkins appears on South Park

s10e13 excerpt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGkSUCqq-Kc

Later in the episode his sweet love making is interrupted by a call from Eric from the future where otters have evolved.


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Clicked on the link and

Clicked on the link and got:

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Sigh.

Is YouTube censoring now?

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Susan wrote:Clicked on the

Susan wrote:
Clicked on the link and got:

The video you have requested is not available.

If you have recently uploaded this video, you may need to wait a few minutes for the video to process.

Sigh.

Is YouTube censoring now?

No they're not censoring, it's a short clip mocking Richard Dawkins.
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Yeah. I figured it was

Yeah. I figured it was gonna piss me off, but wanted to see it because I heard that Dr. Dawkins had commented something about "the least they could have done is use a decent British accent."

I finally saw it and, Dr. Dawkins was right - what a crappy accent!

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I watched the episode a few

I watched the episode a few days ago but didn't post it here because I thought they did a terrible job with the portrail of Dawkins. They had a few funny lines like people shouting "Oh my science!" instead of "Oh my God!". I think they were overcompensating for the way they treat religions on the show. I don't mind a little good ribbing about atheism, but I thought they treated Richard very unfairly.

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Yeah, they'll do that. They

Yeah, they'll do that. They say something about confession (why do it if you're not so bad), they'll have a lot of hell imagery (their Satan character is a tragic lover), and then they'll say atheists 'kill god' or something. They want to play both sides of the fence.


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I think they had one

I think they had one version, but changed it because this two parter is part 2 and part 4...

In the second part they bring up the argument that some people need a god and they even have Dawkins say, "how could I be so dumb." It was about Garrison, but really I think they just want to say stop being an asshole. I really don't won't to get into how hypocritical it is for South Park to be saying something like that.


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I was downloading the

I was downloading the torrent until I saw this. Cancel. Sad


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Actually, I think that its

Actually, I think that its good they gave the heat however they gave it. We're not only fair game, but you know whatever becomes an issue on southpark gets reinforced in other areas of the media and social life as well. This is great publicity, especially at a time when Dawkins has a new book. Most people are aware of the extreme take on things that SouthPark has, so it isn't as if when someone watches the show they believe all that they see. The show points out the issues in regards to ID vs. evolutionary theory, it parodies people's attitudes towards atheists (that's part of why the atheist scenes are like they are), and even points out something that some atheists do indeed miss ... that it is not just religion that is socially problematic, but it is the dogmatic thought that powers it, something that is likely to still be difficult to get rid of, even when religion is gone. That's why we not only work against religion, but we also work against other dogmatic behaviors, such as extreme conservitavism and Amway. Sticking out tongue

and, btw, I think the bad accent was on purpose, for comedic effect - at least, that's what I thought when I saw it.


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This was probably the

This was probably the funniest scene:

Mrs. Garrison: That's right kids, and so you see, there is no god.
Mr. Dawkins: Careful darling, the school board doesn't like it when we -
Stan: (interrupts) Well there could still be a god.
Mrs. Garrison: What?
Stan: Couldn't evolution be the answer to how, and not the answer to why?
Mrs. Garrison: Uh-oh! Retard alert! Retard alert, class! (to Stan) Do you believe in a flying spaghetti monster too, bubblehead?!

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Southpark should stick to

Southpark should stick to insulting hollywood celebrities, that's their intellectual level.

Here's something that clearly goes over their head:

If evolution is the answer to 'how' then the question of 'why' no longer applies as a legitimate question to be begin with, as teleology is obviated....

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I liked when Cartman

I liked when Cartman realized what an asshole he was when he called himself back in time.

I also liked the idea that it was the "isms" that caused wars. I have personally stopped calling myself atheist and just go with "none" when asked my religion.

In regards to Dawkins, I really respect him and when I first saw him butt-buffing Ms. Garrison, it was hard to take. But now it just makes me laugh. If you can't take a joke IMO, it just sets you up to be the biggest joke anyway. No harm done to Dawkins image esp. since when he was asked to comment on it all he said was the thing about a proper British accent. He doesn't take offense obviously and knows how to handle a bad joke. Good for him. clapping


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I continued downloading the

I continued downloading the episode. Funny indeed. ROTF


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Yeah the episode can be hard

Yeah the episode can be hard to laugh at in parts, but only because Richard Dawkins is my newest hero haha. But I figure I can't laugh at almost every other episode of South Park and then not laugh at this. That would be hypocritical of me.

South Park is sweet, and hopefully this will get some people who hadn't really been paying attention to the issue to sit up, take notice, and find sites like this one.

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Susan wrote:Yeah. I figured

Susan wrote:
Yeah. I figured it was gonna piss me off, but wanted to see it because I heard that Dr. Dawkins had commented something about "the least they could have done is use a decent British accent."

I finally saw it and, Dr. Dawkins was right - what a crappy accent!

It does say in their disclaimer "all celebrities are impersonated, poorly..." and that the show "...shouldn't be watched by anybody."

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madthumbs wrote:s10e13

madthumbs wrote:
s10e13 excerpt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGkSUCqq-Kc

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Lee Vegas wrote:It does say

Lee Vegas wrote:
It does say in their disclaimer "all celebrities are impersonated, poorly..." and that the show "...shouldn't be watched by anybody."

LV


Thanks!! You took the words right out of my mouth.

We must favor verifiable evidence over private feeling. Otherwise we leave ourselves vulnerable to those who would obscure the truth.
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SilkyShrew wrote:Actually, I

SilkyShrew wrote:
Actually, I think that its good they gave the heat however they gave it. We're not only fair game, but you know whatever becomes an issue on southpark gets reinforced in other areas of the media and social life as well. This is great publicity, especially at a time when Dawkins has a new book.

Agreed completely. I've had a few people ask me 'Ok.. you're into this stuff.. who the hell is Richard Dawkins?' While trying to avoid the irony of Hell and Dawkins.. I explained who he was and showed them the 'Root of all Evil?' and directed them to The God Delusion. 2 went.. 'Wow.. this is incredible..' so South Park was my method of disseminating rationality. They came to ME. Made my job easier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r4S25jlGTg&eurl=

A GREAT piece on satire/blasphemy

And, of course..

sat·ire (săt'īr') pronunciation n.

1. A literary work in which human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit.
2. The branch of literature constituting such works.
3. Irony, sarcasm, or caustic wit used to attack or expose folly, vice, or stupidity.

[Latin satira, probably alteration (influenced by Greek satur, satyr, and saturos, burlesque of a mythical episode), of (lanx) satura, fruit (plate) mixture, from feminine of satur, sated, well-fitted.]

I'd say burlesquing Christianity is fair.. being a mythical episode and all.

And the accent.. the only time an accent wasn't a stereotype for these boys is.. well.. um.. never.

My final thoughts, Jerry Springer style.. 'F*ck em if they can't take a joke'

"Imperious, choleric, irascible, extreme in everything, with a dissolute imagination the like of which has never been seen, atheistic to the point of fanaticism, there you have me in a nutshell.... Kill me again or take me as I am, for I shall not change.


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I can tell you it's happened

I can tell you it's happened twice with me so far. Eye-wink