"23 Minutes in Hell"
Offline Here's a man who wrote a book about his experience in hell. Apparently he spent 23 minutes there before God pulled him out. He believes that hell is located beneath the earth's surface because he talks about "people up on the surface of the earth." His book titled, "23 Minutes in Hell" is on the Christian book list at Beliefnet.com.
Here's some excerpts from the book by Bill Weise:
I pleaded for mercy, but they had none—absolutely no mercy. They seemed to be incapable of it. They were pure evil. No mercy existed in that place. Mercy is from God in heaven.
The mental anguish I felt was indescribable. Asking for mercy from such evil only seemed to heighten their desire to torment me more.
I was conscious of the fact that there was no fluid coming from my wounds. No blood, no water, nothing. At this time, I did not stop to wonder why. I was extremely nauseous from the terrible, foul stench coming from these creatures. It was absolutely disgusting, foul, and rotten. It was, by far, the most putrid smells I have ever encountered. If you could take every rotten thing you can imagine, such as an open sewer, rotten meat, spoiled eggs, sour milk, dead rotting animal flesh, and sulfur, and magnify it a thousand times, you might come close. This is not an exaggeration. The odor was actually extremely toxic, and that alone should have killed me.Instinctively, I just knew that some of the things I experienced were a thousand times worse than what would be possible on the earth's surface—things such as the odors mentioned, the strength of the demons, the loudness of the screams, the dryness, and the loneliness felt.
Somehow I managed to move a bit and dragged myself across the ground toward the barred door. I couldn't see, but I remembered the direction of the door that had been left open. I finally made it to the door and crawled out of the cell. Apparently, the creatures allowed me to crawl out without stopping me.
As soon as I exited the cell, my first instinct was to get as far away as possible. Again, I desperately wanted to run. All I could think of was to get up onto my feet. However, every move to get up took great effort. I remember wondering, Why is this so difficult? After tremendous exertion, I was finally able to stand. I was thoroughly exhausted and, at the same time, very frustrated at how hard simple movement had become. Although I was now outside the cell, I could not run, and fear continued to bind itself around me as a snake constricting its prey.
I was horrified as I heard the screams of an untold multitude of people crying out in torment. It was absolutely deafening. The terror-filled screams seemed to go right through me, penetrating my very being. I once heard about a television special where a news reporter spent the night in a prison just to experience prison life firsthand. The prisoners were crying, moaning, and yelling all night long. He stated that he couldn't sleep because of all the noise. This place where I now stood was far, far worse.
Through the panic and the deafening noise, I struggled to gather my thoughts. I'm in hell! This is a real place, and I'm actually here! I frantically tried to understand, but it was just so inconceivable. Not me, I'm a good person, I thought. The fear was so intense I couldn't bear it, but again, I couldn't die. I knew that most people up on the surface of the earth did not believe or even know that there was a whole world going on down here. They wouldn't believe it. But here it existed, and it was all too real. This place was so terrifying, so intense, and so hostile that it would be impossible for me to exaggerate the horror.
Question: If hell is below us in the earth, aren't the oil companies who drill for oil taking a chance on poking Satan in the head?
Frosty's coming back someday. Will you be ready?
What a load of crap, he had some dream in which he thinks he went to hell. He probably felt sub/unconciously that he has sinned against god and is not sure if he's saved and thus his brain developed this elaborate dream from either random fireings of the brain and/or drugs he took and/or because of lack of oxygen to the brain and/or drugs.
23 Minutes in Hell? Only 23? Hmm...I thought the whole thing about hell was that it was eternal punishment.
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” -- George Orwell
this guy is just cashing in on "90 Minutes in Heaven" - a book that has been selling like crazy in Christian circles.
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"You act ridiculously," said Ion, "to doubt everything. For my part, I should like to ask you what you say to those who free possessed men from their terrors by exorcising the spirits so manifestly. I need not discuss this: everyone knows about the Syrian from Palestine, the adept in it, how many he takes in hand who fall down in the light of the moon and roll their eyes and fill their mouths with foam; nevertheless, he restores them to health and sends them away normal in mind, delivering them from their straits for a large fee. When he stands beside them as they lie there and asks : 'Whence came you into his body?' the patient himself is silent, but the spirit answers in Greek or in the language of whatever foreign country he comes from, telling how and whence he entered into the man; whereupon, by adjuring the spirit and if he does not obey, threatening him, he drives him out. Indeed, I actually saw one coming out, black and smoky in color." "It is nothing much," I remarked," for you, Ion, to see that kind of sight, when even the 'forms' that the father of your school, Plato, points out are plain to you, a hazy object of vision to the rest of us, whose eyes are weak." - Lucian, Lover of Lies
Fuck's sake. John Dolan needs to review this book. Or maybe he was close enough in his appraisal of poseur James Frey's “A Million Little Pieces.”
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"We don't have to justify the things that don't make any sense anymore."
~former Scientologist Greg Barnes
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I'm pretty sure my employees tell a similar tale after their first day on the job with me. Yup, that horrid realization sounds familiar.
"Tis better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven." -Lucifer
The bible Explicitly states that man has only once to die. Only once.
KJV Hebrews Chapter 9 Verse 27: And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement.
So these so-called near death experiences go against "god's word". You cannot die, go to heaven or hell, and then come back to die a second time.
Maybe his next book will tell us about his experience in Hogwarts.
Science. It works, bitches.
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Wasn't "90 Minutes In Heaven" a movie? Because I don't see how a novelization of one of 'those' films could possibly work, nevermind why they'd read the book instead of watching the movie.
Then again, maybe that's why it's selling so good in the first place....
Good night, funny man, and thanks for the laughter.
Wow, what a dreadfully-written piece of fiction.
Sounds like a high school freshman wrote it.
The only way I could believe a story like that is if it started with, "So I finally decided to try LSD and..."
I agree. And this great work of bullshit is among the books on the Christian reading list on beliefnet.com along with Focus on the Family's James Dobson's book on raising Christian children.
These right-wing Christian authors push this ridiculous bullshit on their followers while warning against atheist "propaganda".
Yet, I've never seen an athesist author try to convince his readers that fantasy is true. Fellow atheists would hold him up to severe scrutiny.
Such scrutiny is rare among Christians.
Frosty's coming back someday. Will you be ready?
“I pleaded for mercy, but they had none—absolutely no mercy. They seemed to be incapable of it. They were pure evil. No mercy existed in that place. Mercy is from God in heaven.
The mental anguish I felt was indescribable. Asking for mercy from such evil only seemed to heighten their desire to torment me more.”
--Bill Weise, 23 Minutes in Hell
“I start crying again.
Softly crying.
I think of Lilly and I cry.
It's all I can do.
Cry.“
-- James Frey, A Million Little Pieces
"We don't have to justify the things that don't make any sense anymore."
~former Scientologist Greg Barnes
xenutv.com
Eh, christians want to read this and live in fear, let them, in the end it makes no sense of the devil's intentions, no where in the bible does the devil cause anyone to suffer as such and no descriptions are ever given of the devil doing such things, ony god does this stuff, god throws you into the lake of fire where there is no end to your suffering (hmmm the more it sounds like god is the devil). It's amazing the human imgaination i say, dante gave a far better description of hell anyways.
Plus there are so many takes on this devil/god and why they each want your soul.
I think this is very interesting. According to the Bible hell is a place where the sinners are punished with everlasting fire. The people who are in hell deserve to be there. According to the Bible, God doesn't want anybody to go there but people don't want to follow God's way that is to repent of sin and accept the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. According to the Bible God is perfect. Hell is where the wrath of God is being poured out upon all ungodliness and wickedness of men.
I find it interesting that many people are not concerned about going to hell because they don't believe in God or hell. We see then that what people believe detirmines how they behave and their attitude about things. Does God really exist? Does hell really exist? If I continue to say to myself, "God doesn't exist and hell is not real." I won't be open to the possibility of the other option and will believe it even in the face of a mountain of evidence. But if I detirmine to seek out the truth about things I will find it assuming that truth can be known. I have to know where to look as well.
Is hell in the center of the earth? Look at this interesting experiment... http://amightywind.com/hell/aboutsounds.htm
The article says, "A geological group who drilled a hole about 14.4 kilometers deep in the crust of the earth are saying that they heard human screams. Screams have been heard from the condemned souls from earth's deepest hole. Terrified scientists are afraid they have let loose the evil powers of hell up to the earth's surface."
Without faith it is impossible to please God for he who comes to God must believe that He exists (Hebrews 11:6).
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I
Do we have the CIA secrecy schemes all wrong? Look at this interesting, in-debth coverage...
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43014
The article says, "LANGLEY, VA—A report released Tuesday by the CIA's Office of the Inspector General revealed that the CIA has mistakenly obscured hundreds of thousands of pages of critical intelligence information with black highlighters."
Great. Another nimcumpoop that thinks the Weekly World News was a serious tabloid that was reporting actual reality.
Science. It works, bitches.
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And Spock has pointy ears.
And I find it humorous atheists are singled out in this regard, when even believers tend to reject thousands of other religious propositions in accepting their own. Somehow I doubt you worry yourself with whether your heart will fair well in comparison to the Feather of Truth, or what will happen to your stuff when Fenris devours the earth.
Ouch, passive-aggressive little jab. Prove that atheists behave worse than Christians without resorting to a No True Scotsman fallacy. I dare ya.
Should any ever show up... lo these millennia. And why would you need evidence? You've already abandoned any faculties capable of evaluating it.
If you skip evidentiary criteria and believe, you'll find that you believe in stuff!
Yeah, that's bullshit.
http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.asp
"We don't have to justify the things that don't make any sense anymore."
~former Scientologist Greg Barnes
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So that's how my mother got loose. It's all becoming so clear now.
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Seems like all these hollow earth theory might be right after all... hmm.
And pumping oil out of the ground probably explain why this guy felt so dry. We are stealing all the lube from the fucking place !
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It's not even good fiction lol.
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If God exists, it's His problem !--Graffiti on the walls of the Sorbonne (France), May 1968
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"Weekly World News ran the story in 1992, this time setting it in Alaska and claiming thirteen oil rig workers were killed when the Devil came roaring up out of the ground."
YES! I knew that's where I remembered hearing about that story from! Thanks magilum, for the link!
LOL I loved that tabloid back then. Great shit. "My toaster makes the sign of the devil on all my toast, the Batboy is on the loose, etc." Man, that was some great fiction!
*sigh* The Weekly World News stopped publication just last year.
Science. It works, bitches.
"I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day."
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geezz Kingdom9, those drill bits were just squeaky , and hissing gases.... you are joking right ?
Cool, NERO is back , no pain no gain.
To be honest, I believe hell actually exists in the center of the earth right now. Eventually it will be cast into outer darkness. Why do I believe this? Because it is taught in the Bible as being a real place. Justice demands that hell exist. Who could serve a god who doesn't punish evil?
Why do I believe the Bible? Because it is true and historically accurate. If the Bible can't be trusted then no historical document can be trusted. I actually did not research before I believed. I believed first and then after research I found the Bible to be worthy of my trust. This is another subject all together though.
Why is it hard for some people to believe in God? I am not persecuting athiests. Athiests are humans and are just as valuable as anybody else because we all are created in the image of God. So hopefully I don't come across as someone who thinks that Christians are better than non-Christians. Christians are simply those who humble themselves and believe in the truth of the Bible and follow the teachings of Christ.
I would like to ask a simple question. What evidence is there that God does not exist? God meaning the Creator of all things.
Without faith it is impossible to please God for he who comes to God must believe that He exists (Hebrews 11:6).
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I
It never ceases to amaze me how truly ignorant some people really are.
Kingdom9, shame on you for helping that garbage stay alive.
Lenny
Respectfully,
Lenny
"The righteous rise, With burning eyes, Of hatred and ill-will
Madmen fed on fear and lies, To beat and burn and kill"
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I'm thinking the sun pretty much fits this, why the earth?
Bet there's one hell of a lot of devoted xtians there.
Perfect, just not all that forgiving. Thought he was a forgiving god?
So....god is satan?
Hey, read the latest statistics. Your more likely to find xtians in prison than atheists. What was that about attitude?
Show me your mountain of evidence, and the bible doesn't count, it's fiction.
That would be truth, not fantasy?
Already debunked. I agree with Chip, Weiss was on LSD or possibly PCP, that really gets some bizarre shit going in the mind.
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hey, Kingdom9, I believe in god as this creation, without a creator, but there's is a reason or science to this, so yes I believe in god, I AM 100% GOD, me and god are one,
the details are so interesting, but that bible is old shit dude,
.... move on to better knowing god , Jesus/ Buddha would insist ....
True and historically accurate? Where did you do your research, at fundy school? More than a few places in the bible never existed, some of the people mentioned in stories did not exist at the time the bible places them, much of the stories (Noah and the flood, for instance) have not one shred of geological or written evidence to support them (again, the bible doesn't count), there are thousands of factual errors in the bible, and if the bible were true why would it have to be worthy of your trust? A little egotistical aren't we?
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You first, please prove that your god does exist. My life depends on you.
Lenny
Respectfully,
Lenny
"The righteous rise, With burning eyes, Of hatred and ill-will
Madmen fed on fear and lies, To beat and burn and kill"
Witch Hunt from the album Moving Pictures. Neal Pert, Rush
www.Kaosium.org
Bulldog, Have you ever checked out the website called "Answers in Genesis"? They seek to defend the Biblical account of creation as being accurate. One thing I have learned from this website is that the facts of nature are the same for the evolutionist and the creationist. The interpretations of these facts is where the problems comes in. The flood for example as it is written in the Bible would of left a ton of evidence. For instance there would be tons of water left over (huge oceans), and there would be massive burial of animals and humans (lots of fossils). The grand canyon is a fact of nature. How did it get there? I believe it is evidence that there was a massive flood of water. Why are their similar flood stories that sound like the Bible's story in many cultures all over the world who have never even heard of the Bible?
I don't think it is egotistical to believe that the Bible is completely historically accurate and true. I don't think it is possible to disprove that the Bible is not telling the truth historically.
But anyway, I have a lot of fun reading these forums and laughing a lot and discussing these things and reasoning with you .
Zach.
Without faith it is impossible to please God for he who comes to God must believe that He exists (Hebrews 11:6).
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I
So what is your name? Did anyone name you at birth? You did not have control over who was your parents. You are your parents offspring. According to the Bible, Humans are the "offspring" of God that is we are made by God and we all descended from 2 original humans who were called Adam and Eve. Do you believe that humans have a maker? Or the earth has a maker?
Without faith it is impossible to please God for he who comes to God must believe that He exists (Hebrews 11:6).
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I