Atheist music and movies?
Offline Hello everyone,
I apologize if a similar thread is already in existence, but I'm new to this forum! I'm interested in finding music and movies that have atheist or anti-religious themes. Unfortunately, even a lot of the so-called "blasphemous" movies I've seen stop short of attacking the existence of god. For example, movies like "Saved!" and "Dogma" aren't really as radical as they appear to be at first. Both films opt in the end to uphold the values of liberal, "moderate" Christianity. Even "Jesus Camp" contrasts the crazy mullet-wearing fundamentalists with a liberal Christian talk show host. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed all of these films to some extent, but I'm looking for more unapologetically atheist films and music (any genre).
Thanks in advance for all suggestions!
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I'll consider it.
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By the way a few days ago I watched "The Golden Compass" movie. It sucked. It was boring and didn't make much sense. I did read somewhere they severely toned down the anti-religion stuff from the book.
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Many of the anti-religious references left over after the sanitizing were subtle.
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
The movie made no sense because it ends before the book does. Also, they added scenes that weren't in the book and had nothing to do with the story. And the direction sucked.
The books themselves are brilliant. I would still love to see a movie version of "The Subtle Knife", but even I know there's no way the third book, in which God gets a less than flattering cameo, is ever getting made into a movie.
Greetings there,
Just started an ATHEIST MUSIC BLOG and I'm off to a good start with over 1,000 Atheist Songs listed already!
Also a fair smattering of pro-science songs as well.
Your contribution(s) are appreciated.
Enjoy.
Paul.
Nice list. And woot for Epica's Cry for the Moon being included there
A large part of their "Phantom Agony" album consists of anti-religious songs- although I understand that the members of the band who have ever spoken out on their religion all said that they were agnostics and definately not atheists. Last month I went to a rock opera (Equilibrio) featuring the front singer of Epica (a beautiful mezzo-soprano), which was for a large part about a man who loses his faith in the gods and subsequently becomes bitter and evil- in short, the warped picture many Christians seem to have about atheists. So I was a little bit disappointed by that, despite the great performance.
I hope i don't say any that have already been mentioned but here we go.
Movie - There will be blood
Music
Artist:Muse
Album:Absolution
I think Matt Bellamy the singer of Muse isn't religious, I think he is confused about whether God exists or not, but some of the lyrics are awesome.
Hysteria is a song about losing your faith
"t's bugging me, grating me
And twisting me around
Yeah I'm endlessly caving in
And turning inside out
It's holding me, morphing me
And forcing me to strive
To be endlessly cold within
And dreaming I'm alive
And I want you now
I want you now
I'll feel my heart implode
And I'm breaking out
Escaping now
Feeling my faith erode"
Blackout
"Don't Kid yourself,
and Don't fool yourself,
This life could be the last,
but we're too young to see."
One of the songs "Thoughts of a dying atheist" Make me sick. Some of the lyrics say stuff like "It scares the hell out of me, because the end is all i can see." Not all atheists fear death. I am indifferent to death, after death nothing is going to be bad or good. I think most atheists agree with me.
I don't really like The Exies but there is a good song that i like a lot by them called Normal
"You dont know me
Im immune, i am free
Not a slave to your beliefs
Im immune,out of reach
You're alone, stuck with your disease
You hate the things that i say,and who i seem to be
But you dont look so normal to me"
"Don't Know When but a Day is Gonna Come" by: Bright Eyes
"Fou Winds" by: Bright Eyes
For movies, I would advise you to watch the Team America: World Police. Its not anti-god exactly, but it does have that attitude of disrespect to it. Also, South Park in general.
I'm fairly sure his songs are about exploring the different angles from which people approach reality, and not so much an expression of his own view, well not all the time anyway.
Take "Black Holes And Revelations". The theme of the album is revolution, and rightious uprising of the oppressed. The romantic appeal of revolution is something I'm sure Matt can relate to, through young left-wing and anarchist activist movements (circles in which I, too, travel). It's basically the anti-authoritarian appeal of fighting "the man". That album is the musical equivalent to the film: "V for Vendetta".
But if you'll notice, many songs from that album, notably "City of Delusion" and "Assasin" almost explicitly take the position of the zealous religious fanatic, alluding heavily to the idea that the song is being song by a muslim suicide bomber.
I think Matthew wants to explore the "other" point of view, not necessarily hold that point of view himself.
And remember it ends: "Look through a faithless eye - Are you afraid to die?"
To me, that sounds like an invitation to the people that go around throwing Pascal's Wager around like nobody's business: "Have you ever looked through a faithless eye? How can you know what it's like then? And if you haven't then how do you know what it's like to be afraid to die? Don't you know it because you are afraid to die? Aren't we all, sometimes? And aren't we all peacefully accepting the inevitability of it at other times?"
Well I was born an original sinner
I was spawned from original sin
And if I had a dollar bill for all the things I've done
There'd be a mountain of money piled up to my chin
heres a song that has pretty clear Atheistic message http://www.myspace.com/aspiritual the band is called Aspiritual - Y. All of the songs are Atheistic by nature. Enjoy!
It's a musical, and it has some great numbers. The whole thing is a parody of sesame street, and is geared towards 20/30 somethings. While they do not outright express a lack of belief in a god, the songs focus on a secular view of life. My particular favorite is the finale, Only for Now. It addresses the Christian notion there has to be a reason I'm here.
Princeton: Why does everything have to be so hard?
Gary Coleman: Maybe you'll never find your purpose.
Christmas Eve: Lot's of people don't.
Princeton: But, then I don't even know why I'm alive.
Kate Monster: Who does?
Everyone's a little bit, unsatisfied
Everyone goes round a little
Empty inside.
Take a breath, look around, swallow your pride
For now. . . . .
Stay cool, relax
Let life roll off your back.
Except for death and paying taxes,
Everything in life
Is only for now.
The main idea being, everything in life is temporary; success, failure, good looks, etc., and that's okay. Why would we need anything more than that? In short, religion is selfish.
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hi,
i've noticed everyone tends to list anti-theistic movies and music? here's some objectively atheistic music/movies:
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spectrum
the beta band
underworld
spiritualized
darkside
asteroid no. 4
brian jonestown massacre
unrest
the helio sequence
bardo pond
my bloody valentine
olivia tremor control
the beatles (in their drug years moreso)
yo la tengo
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and some atheistic movies you all probably will be interested in:
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"what the bleep do we know?"
"waking life"
"angel-a"
"the gods must be crazy"
"donnie darko"
"network"
"american beauty"
try some of these out
"fight club"
not sure how i forgot this one but, yeah... fight club
Did anyone mention "Religulous" yet??
I Just Want You- Ozzy Ozborn "there are no believable gods"...
"Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense."
There is a movie called "Chocolat" and it's good.
anything with Johnny Depp....
Bad Religion,Nofx,Subhumans,and some older hardcore punk are basically non-theist but there is so much out there..I want to compile an album and call it something like Blasphemy's Best 40 of the most reasonable(rational) melodies.
MUSIC
Leftover Crack - atheist anthem
Propagandhi - Haille Sellasse, Up Your Ass
Bad Religion - God's Love
The Living End - Raise The Alarm
Marilyn Manson - The Fight Song
Faithless - Bombs
Insane Clown Posse - Hellalujah
Greydon Square - The Dream
Voltaire - God Thinks
Velvet Acid Christ - There Is No God
Skunk Anansie - Selling Jesus
Stone Temple Pilots - Naked Sunday
Danzig - Godless
U.P.O - Godless
Metallica - Lepper Messiah
A Perfect Circle - Judith
One Tin Soldier - The Legend Of Billy Jack
Drowning Pool - Sermon
XTC - Dear God
Ziggy Marley - In The Name Of God
Rush - Freewill
Motorhead - I Don't Need Religion
Cake - Comfort Eagle
Porgy and Bess - It Ain't Necessarily So
Bad Religion - Faith Alone
Marco V - Godd
Frank Zappa - Jesus Thinks Your A Jerk
Vital Remains - At War With God
John Lennon - God
Tool - Opiate
Nine Inch Nails - Heresy
Tori Amos - God
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Shallow Be Thy Game
Atheist - And The Psychic Saw
God Module - Inside Out
(Many of these bands have more then one song that would be considered an atheist song.)
Isn't that the song that features the theme from Prokofiev's "Troika" in it's instrumental breaks? I, too, love that song. I am wondering if Prokofiev was an atheist. He was one of my favorite conposers.
I just finished watching Life of Brian by Monty Python. OMG, ROFL!
That is one of the best commedies I ever saw and certainly the most intelligent one. I wish all men could see that film. And women! And Christians!
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.
Tool and a perfect circle!!!!!
It's been a while that I've seen that one, but I don't remember it having a religious focus. Also, I absolutely *love* "The Gods must be Crazy", but it's not critical towards religion. If anything, it is a satire of the modern society and what we consider "civilized" - though this criticism is only based on solid observations and logical conclusions
A quote from the beginning, after presenting the simple peaceful way of life of the bushmen:
"Only 600 miles to the south, there's a vast city. And here you find civilized man. Civilized man refused to adapt himself to his environment. Instead he adapted his environment to suit him. So he built cities, roads, vehicles, machinery. And he put up power lines to run his labour-saving devices. But he didn't know when to stop. The more he improved his surroundings to make life easier the more complicated he made it. Now his children are sentenced to 10 to 15 years of school, to learn how to survive in this complex and hazardous habitat. And civilized man, who refused to adapt to his surroundings, now finds he has to adapt and re-adapt every hour of the day to his self-created environment. For instance, if it's Monday and the number 7:30 comes up, you have to disadapt from your domestic surroundings and re-adapt yourself to an entirely different environment. 8:00 means everybody has to look busy. 10:30 means you can stop looking busy for 15 minutes. And then, you have to look busy again. Your day is chopped into pieces. In each segment of time you adapt to new circumstances. No wonder some people go off the rails a bit."
Hilarious and quite true *gg*
Regarding songs, how comes no one has mentioned Eric Schwartz yet? The title "Keep your Jesus off my penis" pretty much says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5YrB7TpT1Y . Lyrics can be found here: http://www.ericschwartz.com/ES_pages/jesus_lyrics.html
gotta mention ... MC Hawking ... it's goofball paraody or whatever, but it's hard to go past classics like "Fuck the Creationists" or "Entropy".
Two songs come to mind. One is Joan Osbourne's "what if God was one of us" a surprising radio hit considering it's atheistic questions. The other would be Concrete Blonde's version of Tomorrow, Wendy. Written by Wall of Voodoo's Andy Prieboy about a woman dying of AIDS. Some of my favourite lyrics/poetry is They say-good try-
tomorrow Wendy's going to die
I told the priest-don't count on
any second coming.
God got his ass kicked the first time He
came down here slumming
He had the balls to
come, the Gall to die
and then forgive us-
no, I don't wonder why
I wonder what he thought
it would get us-hey hey, good try-
tomorrow Wendy's going to die
Understanding that there is no purpose in the Universe frees us all to find one.
Storm by Tim Minchin Funny. An argument with woo-woo over dinner.
Religion Kills !!!
Numbers 31:17-18 - Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
http://jesus-needs-money.blogspot.com/
Minchin is generally brimming with good atheist humour. I wholeheartelly endorse all his comedy, and at least 20% of all his stand up shows and his songs are dedicated to atheism/sceptisism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXfmjMlPEic
One of his more brilliant ones
Well I was born an original sinner
I was spawned from original sin
And if I had a dollar bill for all the things I've done
There'd be a mountain of money piled up to my chin
Morosity has a few songs on their Misanthrope album. These 3 in particular.
"Eve" -- you can listen to this one here -- http://www.facebook.com/Morosity
"Day of Reckoning"
"Hypocrite"
SYMPHONY OF SCIENCE
I heard about this project from the Skeptic's Guide to the Universe podcast. This is not quite how I imagine good-looking pop stars, but I must admit, the key sounds well and electronically modulated voice was always my favorite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.
Have a listen to Tombstone Da Deadman, Gripp, or Johnny Hoax, or for a country music feel, Shelley Segal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-h_jNiSczw
And then there's this guy on Youtube, Eddie Scott. He has some nice songs too. It doesn't sound like a casual listening commercial stuff, more like some of the comedy songs that Tim Minchin plays on stage. Comedy, musical, cabaret, something like that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_evSpg33j2E (The Buzzword Song - skepticism)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qkf64lhATQ (Nation of Believers - in all kinds of gods)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPs_j1EEplI (Skeptic in the Room - this one's both long and awesome song)
It's not true anymore that atheists ain't got no songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFWA1A9XFi8
Now that you guys have songs, just buy an abandoned church in Seattle or Austin, a good coffee machine and let in some newlywed couples for sleepover to desacrate the grounds properly and you can start the Churh of Atheism
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.
I am familier with Shelly Segal, I did the interview with her on the Jimmy Williamson show (Oct. 7) check out;
http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/33070
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