Theism Vs Theism

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Theism Vs Theism

I wonder if anyone has seen a good debate between two theists on their different religions. I have some suspicions of how such a debate would go, but I'd like confirmation.

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The first time I was in the

The first time I was in the SticKam chatroom, this guy named "warrior4jesus" showed up (wearing a mask, too) and then he started attack StMichael for a bit, because w4j was born-again and StM is catholic. It went a little something like this:

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w4j: "Well you aren't a real Christian, you idolator."

StM: "Okay..."

w4j: "And I masturbate to animated porn so it isn't a sin."

StM: "Interesting interpretation..."

everyone: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

warrior4jesus has left the room

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Pretty good stuff.

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The last time I saw a theist vs. theist debate, actually the only time, resulted in a "My Daddy's Better Than Yours" kind of a thing with both sides throwing out information without providing evidence.

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Can't we organize a "Baal

Can't we organize a "Baal Challenge"? Each religion can pick a representative who gets a prearranged amount of time to pray for a particular miracle. Whichever god answers the prayer of his supplicant is obviously the winner, and everyone has to convert on the spot.

And if nothing happens...guess who wins?

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Look up answering

Look up answering christianity and answering islam.


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zarathustra wrote: Can't

zarathustra wrote:

Can't we organize a "Baal Challenge"? Each religion can pick a representative who gets a prearranged amount of time to pray for a particular miracle. Whichever god answers the prayer of his supplicant is obviously the winner, and everyone has to convert on the spot.

And if nothing happens...guess who wins?

Maybe the stakes should be higher? Maybe some large animals... or elaborate traps?

If their faith is so strong, then they're convinced they'll go to Heaven, right?

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But what about...

And the agnostics? How do atheists decide victory over them? Overall I think a gladatorial match would be fairly interesting.

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Micius wrote:

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And the agnostics? How do atheists decide victory over them? Overall I think a gladatorial match would be fairly interesting.

Why would an atheist and an agnostic fight? Generally, atheists are agnostics as well anyway. Perhaps we should have a person fight with himself, a la Fight Club?

I've been involved in and witnessed some pretty good debates. Although I've never been a theist, I've talked with theists of all types who argued with one-another with my input.  I tend to not like those sponsored debates in front of an audience as much, but mostly because of the lack of passion and dynamics in those types. I haven't seen too many theist-theist sponsored debates though.  I had some pretty good ones in graduate school during philosophy club meetings when Christians would show up. I had a weekly column and they knew who I was. they came looking to talk with me.  Often, they would talk with each other as well, having come from different groups.  I would listen a lot. 

Good times...

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An agnostic would probably

An agnostic would probably just run back and forth, unable to decide which side to join. 

 Has anyone offered theistic explanations for why the Crusaders failed to keep the Holy Land, or why Baghdad fell to the Mongols?

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I think all you need to do

I think all you need to do is hang around a church for a while, and you'll see some theist-vs-theist debates/arguments. There's a reason there's hundreds of denominations. Sometimes they can be just as nasty to their fellow theists as they are to us atheists.