So now Liberty students are stalking Walmart

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So now Liberty students are stalking Walmart

Earlier today I was a walmart with a friend buying some soda and two other college students walked past me and asked us if we went to liberty university, to which I replied "no". They continued walking down the isle and almost turned to the corner until I had the lack of sense to say "god no, i'd kill myself if I went there...." (it didn't click right at that second that they WERE liberty students) They halted, turned back around and it was then that I knew instantly what they were doing. They were going around walmart looking for non christians to save.... as you can guess I got into a fight with them (damn I love the adrenaline) and it took about 15 minutes before they just quit. They guy tried to tell me that single cell organizms couldn't evolve without god, and some shit about my breakfast cereal and evolution (I have no idea what he was getting at) I was about ready to knock him with my soda....but that would have looked bad. *sigh*


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I kill myself if i lived

I kill myself if i lived close enough to liberity university that they would be stalking my wal mart. As for debating them? lame, you'll never convince them and nothing is accomplished... be that devil that they want you to be, tell them that you celebrated fallwell dying, tell them that you payed for your girlfriends abortion, and how much you love having sex with her (maybe mention different imputs and in graphic detial) *btw it doesnt matter if its made up or not* these kids are so sheltered and considering that most people they run into and know at the very least are respect their beliefs.

 Be the Devil


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Medievalguy wrote: They guy

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They guy tried to tell me that single cell organizms couldn't evolve without god, and some shit about my breakfast cereal and evolution.

The breakfast cereal he was probably referring to is Lucky Charms. And he's right. Lucky Charms could not possibly be a result of evolution. Lucky Charms cereal is designed by leprechauns. That's why it's magically delicious.

 

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Sleepy Norris wrote:   Be

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  Be the Devil

Works for me!

If you cant open their eyes

and your to lazy to knock some sense into them...

Scare and Disgust the crap outa them ^_^

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This is what I usually do in situations like this..

FYI: I know the backround of this verse but sadly most Christians dont. So I use this set of Questioning to mess with them.

1. This is what I would have said to them In this hypothetical situation I have created out of boredom.

Them: Do you go to Liberty University? (Or any other typical missionary saying)

Me: Ummm no, I'd kill myself if I went there!

Them: Oh well have you accepted Jesus as your personal savior (*Insert any other typical christian saying and ramblings)

Me: No I am not a Christian but I can see that you two are. So you guys are Just doing what Mark 16:15 says aren't ya? Ya know "Go into all the world and proclaim the good news"

Them: Uhhh yes, we are just doing the lords work(*insert some other corny Christian saying)

Me: Let me ask you guys something, Do you believe the bible is the inerrant word of god? That is it perfect and true?

Them: *9 times out of 10 unless they are mormon they says "Yes of course"

Me: So God wouldn't lie or mislead you right? Or say anything that would ever harm your right?

Them: No way! The bible is truth ! Jesus died for us, God loves us, He wouldn't ever mislead us. The devil is the liar (*Insert some other ramblings)

Me: So you guys have been baptized right? And you obviously both believe right? Have you spoken in Tounges?

Them: Of course! We know without a doubt Jesus is lord ect(*more christian ramblings) And yes we have spoken in tounges(Some haven't but it doesn't matter)

Me: Can you guys follow me for a minute

- Next i would proceed to lead them to the Chemical Isle or possibly somewhere in walmart where they sell rat poison or something harmful of that nature.

Me: Ok guys well since the bible is the Inerrant word of God and you claim that you are not only baptized and you believe with all your hearts we are gonna try a little experiment. Now guys Jesus clearly indicates in Mark 16: 17 that "These signs will accompany thoes who BELIEVE: by using my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tounges; they will pick up snakes in their hands, and if they drink any deadly thing(Poison) IT WILL NOT HURT THEM; they will lay their hands on the sick and they will recover."

So who wants to drink first?

Thus begins a whole ton of backtracking and confusion. I keep reminding them that they said God wouldn't lie to them so why are they so afraid of trying it. 

I then give them two options

-Either the bible isn't the perfect inerrant word of God

or 

- You two aren't true believers and you have no faith in the words or your own god. Which is it?

They usually leave me alone after that. I know the bible very well and I reccomend being able to recite verses to them. Nothing works quite like using the bible against them.

Note: I have really tried this and nobody has accepted the challenge but you have to say it with all seriousness. I have got people to admit that the bible might be wrong...which in my opinion is a step in the right direction.  

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Sleepy Norris wrote: I

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I kill myself if i lived close enough to liberity university that they would be stalking my wal mart. As for debating them? lame, you'll never convince them and nothing is accomplished... be that devil that they want you to be, tell them that you celebrated fallwell dying, tell them that you payed for your girlfriends abortion, and how much you love having sex with her (maybe mention different imputs and in graphic detial) *btw it doesnt matter if its made up or not* these kids are so sheltered and considering that most people they run into and know at the very least are respect their beliefs.

Be the Devil

Yeah, let's just play the Christian's stereotype of an atheists. That'll work!


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If I lived around that area

If I lived around that area I'd probably pretend to be a theist and tell them all about the wonders of the devil.


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Pathofreason wrote: Me: Ok

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Me: Ok guys well since the bible is the Inerrant word of God and you claim that you are not only baptized and you believe with all your hearts we are gonna try a little experiment. Now guys Jesus clearly indicates in Mark 16: 17 that "These signs will accompany thoes who BELIEVE: by using my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tounges; they will pick up snakes in their hands, and if they drink any deadly thing(Poison) IT WILL NOT HURT THEM; they will lay their hands on the sick and they will recover."

So who wants to drink first?

Not a bad ploy, but It's not air tight. That passage wasn't part of the original manuscript of Mark. Even conservative scholars will agree it was added later.

I think it's weak enough to avoid using on all but the KJV only crowd, or some other hyper fundie Christian.


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Oh I know man

Yeah I totally agree...thats why I put the little Disclaimer about the verse at the start. Most Christians I know don't realize it, or know what we know. I usually find that the kids out hitting the streets, the ones who will just walk right up to you in Walmart are the more simple minded of the flock. Usually if they are familiar with the addition to the gospel I try something else.

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It's excellent to know the

It's excellent to know the Bible well (or any religious book that might be the basis for someone trying to convert you) and be able to defend against it, but it does annoy me that one has to know a book that one isn't interested in, just to protect oneself.

 


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Pathofreason wrote: Yeah I

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Yeah I totally agree...thats why I put the little Disclaimer about the verse at the start.

I must've missed it.


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Medievalguy wrote: Earlier

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Earlier today I was a walmart with a friend buying some soda and two other college students walked past me and asked us if we went to liberty university, to which I replied "no". They continued walking down the isle and almost turned to the corner until I had the lack of sense to say "god no, i'd kill myself if I went there...." (it didn't click right at that second that they WERE liberty students) They halted, turned back around and it was then that I knew instantly what they were doing. They were going around walmart looking for non christians to save.... as you can guess I got into a fight with them (damn I love the adrenaline) and it took about 15 minutes before they just quit. They guy tried to tell me that single cell organizms couldn't evolve without god, and some shit about my breakfast cereal and evolution (I have no idea what he was getting at) I was about ready to knock him with my soda....but that would have looked bad. *sigh*

If you attend the college I think you do, I used to go to there too. I never encounterd them in that Walmart, but when I was in school a couple of their students did tresspass and followed a student into the dorm after they'd swiped their card. My neighbor got a knock on her door, I heard the comotion and saw them after I opened my door going down the steps(it was the only year that the floors were mixed)

Anywho, she told me that that she told them they were tresspassing and that if they didnt leave she would call campus security.

Sad thing is that IF Wal Mart gave them permission |(I doubt it) but if they did, then they'd have a right to be there. However, my guess is you were not the first and if they did it long enough I am quite sure someone went to Wal Mart managment and eventually complained, even if you didnt.

That particular Wal Mart is right next to Liberty. What do you expect from Students who had a leader who tried to change the name of a mountain he didnt own.

 

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Brian37 wrote: If you

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If you attend the college I think you do, I used to go to there too. I never encounterd them in that Walmart, but when I was in school a couple of their students did tresspass and followed a student into the dorm after they'd swiped their card. My neighbor got a knock on her door, I heard the comotion and saw them after I opened my door going down the steps 

Lynchburg College by any chance? What dorm if so? And yeah, they still come on our campus and sneak into the dorms to try and save us..... Oh, and get this, when i asked the guy at walmart what proof there was of god's existence, he tried to tell me Jesus was proof, and that there were plenty of first hand accounts of jesus existing. I asked him to name ONE secular source, and he tried to say Plato talked of Jesus's existence...........It was all I could do to keep from laughing in his face. 


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aaagggghhhaaaaa!!!

can't stop laughing, must not choke to death on coca cola, owwww..... my sides........ help, I can't breath.....


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I figuree the reason the

I figuree the reason the Liberty Universtity students were hanging around Wal-Mart was in hopes of catcing a glimpse of their savior.

 

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Randalllord wrote: I

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I figuree the reason the Liberty Universtity students were hanging around Wal-Mart was in hopes of catcing a glimpse of their savior.

But sometimes he's not so materialistic!

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I just would have said

I just would have said "Aren't you guys pissed that God makes you walk around and do this while I get to shop in peace?"

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I think they get school

I think they get school credit or something. I went back last night with my friend to get some stuff and the same two guys where there..... we made eye contact and I just smiled and waved....


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Medievalguy wrote: I think

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I think they get school credit or something.

School credit for proselytizing?  

That's just scary.

 

I got a note from a friend on MySpace.  He had just gotten his free DVD of The God Who Wasn't There from the Blasphemy Challenge (even though he had previously purchased a copy).  When the JWs came knocking on his door and wanted to give him reading material, he made them a deal.  He'd take their literature and read it if they would take the brand new, still-in-the-package DVD and promise to watch all of it.

They agreed.

I wonder if they held up their end of the bargain. 

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Very scary

Susan wrote:

Medievalguy wrote:
I think they get school credit or something.

School credit for proselytizing?  

That's just scary.

 

I got a note from a friend on MySpace.  He had just gotten his free DVD of The God Who Wasn't There from the Blasphemy Challenge (even though he had previously purchased a copy).  When the JWs came knocking on his door and wanted to give him reading material, he made them a deal.  He'd take their literature and read it if they would take the brand new, still-in-the-package DVD and promise to watch all of it.

They agreed.

I wonder if they held up their end of the bargain. 

 

Wow I can't imagine a class that would give you extra credit for proselytizing! But then again it doesn't surprise me at all.

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