The question of god and beauticians

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The question of god and beauticians

I got this email yesterday, and another several weeks earlier with a barber instead of a beautician.
I want to respond and shoot it down but I have recently discovered that I am one of those atheists who should not try to debate. I know this is a fallacy but not which one...stawman comes to mind.

Would someone please discredit this in compelling and fairly simple terms. I feel I must respond to this perfectly lovely lady who insists on sending me theistic propaganda.

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This is one of the best explanations of why God allows pain and suffering that I have seen. It's an explanation other people will understand:

A lady went to a beauty shop to have her hair cut and
her nails painted and trimmed. As the lady began to work, they
began to have a good conversation. They talked about so many
things and various subjects.
When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the
beautician said : "I don't believe that God exists."

"Why do you say that?" asked Sheryl who has MS.

"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that
God doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so
many sick people? Would there be abandoned children? If God
existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can't imagine a
loving God who would allow all of these things."

Then Sheryl thought for a moment, but didn't respond because
she didn't want to start an argument.

The beautician just finished her job and the customer left the shop.
Just after she left the beauty shop,
she saw a woman in the street with
long, stringy, dirty hair and not groomed at all.
She looked dirty and unkempt.

Then Sheryl turned back and entered the beauty shop again and
she said to the beautician:
"You know what? Beauticians do not exist."

"How can you say that?" asked the surprised beautician. "I am
here, and I am a beautician. And I just worked on you!"

"No!" Sheryl exclaimed. "Beauticians don't exist because if
they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and
be very unkempt, like that woman outside."

"Ah, but beauticians DO exist!
What happens is, people do not
come to me."

"Exactly!"- affirmed Sheryl. "That 's the
point! God, too, DOES exist! What happens, is, people
don't go to Him and do not look for Him. That's why there's so
much pain and suffering in the world."

If you think God exists, send this to other people--
If you think God does not exist, delete it!

We must favor verifiable evidence over private feeling. Otherwise we leave ourselves vulnerable to those who would obscure the truth.
~ Richard Dawkins


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Wow.

Wow.

Here is a very simple answer for that one: there are many people in this world who "go to God" and still suffer.

The use of a barber and beautician is so fucking ridiculous I feel like pounding my head against the wall. You can't prove something exists by saying people need to go to God.

If I told someone,"Hey! There is a race of exotic beautiful women living in the Amazon jungle who will marry any man!", when I had never seen this race for myself and have no evidence for their existence. And they respond with,"I don't believe you."

Me then telling them to go to the Amazon to find the race of women is not proof that they exist.

This bulletin is an attempt to trick those who are easily lead into converting. The bulletin itself is just like Christianity, no actual proof. You are just expected to "go to God" as if that's all the evidence that is needed. These bulletins attempt to lure people in with weak explanations like the one seen here. It's fucking pathetic.

"If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss Bank."-Woody Allen

"Atheism is life affirming in a way religion can never be."-Richard Dawkins


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Angelic_Atheist wrote:God

Angelic_Atheist wrote:
God does not exists.
Beauticians do not exist.

It is a False Analogy fallacy.

People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.


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Beauticians aren't all

Beauticians aren't all powerful or care about everyone.


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I sure don't believe in an

I sure don't believe in an omnipotent beautician who could ensure that everyone looked as they wanted. This is a good thing. The fashions that beauticians work by can have such bad taste... Smiling


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How would you choose which

How would you choose which beautician to go to? Is there only one? Or are the rest "false beauticians"? LOL

Incidentally, I am my own beautician. Does that count too?


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Heretic!

Heretic! Smiling

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