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Rational Squad deleted from YouTube

Was browsing through the RRS videos on YouTube a bit ago, when I started getting " This account is suspended." messages when trying to views the video list. And it looks like all the Gisburne related clips have been removed...

 

Youtube on the assault again?


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It wouldn't surprise me.

It wouldn't surprise me.


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Yes, we were suspended with

Yes, we were suspended with all 100 videos removed.  No word yet as to why, no email on the suspension.  I'll provide more details as I get them.

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Fuckin Digging this crap. 

Fuckin Digging this crap.  YouTube is supposedly the example against censorship, taking on lawsuits by Viacom and competetion from NewsCorp, all trying to take them down.  I want answers, YouTube.

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Truly WTF...

Truly WTF... Undecided


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Seriously, WTF?!

Seriously, WTF?!


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I know there are groups on

I know there are groups on YouTube that go around flagging people's accounts. If enough people flag an account YouTube will suspend it, most times not even looking at the account. They seemingly cater to the Muslims in particular.


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I just found out about the

I just found out about the whole youtube thing.  This happened to me not to long ago.  Mine said perminatly disabled, not suspended.  Youtube never emailed me or mentioned why either.  That's just complete bullshit. 

I'm just to .


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I strongly suspect that

I strongly suspect that this was the work of a flag happy group with a vendetta against Atheists being able to talk about the subject, abuse of the system for fear of free and public discussion. (All the more reason to stay on YT where those try to silence such discussion.)

 

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I noticed that in addition

I noticed that in addition to the main RRS youtube account being suspended, the blasphemy challenge account only appears to have 5 videos posted...I recall there being many more.

 Some of the videos missing were ones that included news broadcast footage.  Youtube really is Viacomm/Newscorp's bitch now, eh?


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Supergravity wrote:

Supergravity wrote:

Some of the videos missing were ones that included news broadcast footage.

I pulled all the news footage. I'm not willing to risk the Blasphemy Challenge account going down on account of copyright.

 

 

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This is crazy, is there any

This is crazy, is there any pettion to sign to tell them to let you back on? Or do you want some of us to write them a letter? Or start up a Challenge the censorship challenge?
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gobaskof wrote: This is

gobaskof wrote:
This is crazy, is there any pettion to sign to tell them to let you back on? Or do you want some of us to write them a letter? Or start up a Challenge the censorship challenge?
Say what you need, we will do it!Tongue out

 We'll come up with something, we're scheming as we speak, also I'm waiting for more details.  For now, just start getting used to live video.

 

 

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I'm going to assume this was

I'm going to assume this was an error on the part of Youtube, caused by assholes flagging the account. I really doubt that Youtube would do anything like that purposely.


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What's the channel name on

What's the channel name on LiveVid? I deleted my old account there heh.


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What's the channel name on LiveVid? I deleted my old account there heh.

 

http://www.livevideo.com/RationalResponders.com

 

 

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Sapient wrote: We'll come

Sapient wrote:



We'll come up with something, we're scheming as we speak, also I'm waiting for more details. For now, just start getting used to live video.



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This is absolute crap.  i

This is absolute crap.  i am so dissapointed in youtube...


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complete bullshit     I

complete bullshit

 

 

I acually made a video about " banning" it should be up soon

 

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those... mother...

those... mother... fuckers....

 If this had been a Christian organization then they would never had touched it. I'm so fucking sick of Christians doing this shit. Sapient, you should get in touch with the Secular Coalition (if you haven't already) and let them know about the site attacks and this YouTube thing. This has got to be grounds for discrimination.

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Unlucky13 wrote: Sapient,

Unlucky13 wrote:

Sapient, you should get in touch with the Secular Coalition (if you haven't already) and let them know about the site attacks and this YouTube thing. This has got to be grounds for discrimination.

I'd rather just end religion.

 

We've come up with a few options some deal with getting back on youtube through legit means, though I don't know how successful that will be.  I'm more excited about the notion of hosting our videos on sites that pay you for your video. 

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Andrew Carmichael

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This is absolute crap.  i am so dissapointed in youtube...

This is indeed crap on crap. I am so starting to lose faith (yea bad word hiss boo) in the US and youtube. I hope I am not loseing the will to fight its just starting to feel like all the roads are being closed.

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Here we go again!  This is

Here we go again!  This is getting bad.


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There are many reasons as

There are many reasons as to why YouTube would ban/suspend the RRS account:

 hi1: The videos got flagged too much.

hi2: Some copyright bullshit, because there were some videos with news broadcasts.

hi3: YouTube suspended it by mistake. (doubt it, though)

hi4: It had somthing to do with David mills' video with the dog poo. (maybe it upset some self-rightous idiots).

 

I really hope the account gets reinstated with ALL of the videos that had been posted. Please keep us posted. 


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It’s a shame when a

It’s a shame when a mutually beneficial partnership gets spoiled by one side.

For several months the RRS has been featured on plenty of TV news items. Youtube supplied a platform for the RRS and in turn the "youtube" brand received national TV exposure.

I guess RRS could invoice youtube for 3 months of national marketing  Laughing  j/k of course, but it does highlight the fact that youtube get allot of great exposure based on it’s users content.

Blasphemy Challenge videos are probably  the most numerous,  single issue, original content video’s on the whole youtube site, it’s not as if the RRS just uploaded other peoples music videos all day!

 


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No problem. They wanna play

No problem. They wanna play it hard? We can play it hard.

Time to go to Youtube and e-mail the advertisers. Don't click on the links from any youtube page because then it will register as money for them. Instead just go to the advertiser's individual pages and find the contact information.

After all, it is their money. They should know how it is being spent. 

 

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Sapient wrote: Yes, we were

Sapient wrote:
Yes, we were suspended with all 100 videos removed. No word yet as to why, no email on the suspension. I'll provide more details as I get them.

 

Hi Sapient,

As you are likely aware, I am no fan of your squad. However, I am very concerned about YouTube's action as well, and I plan to contact them to see what's happening. I don't see how censorship benefits anyone, even when it comes to your so-called "activism."

I hope we can get this settled soon.


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http://www.petitiononline.com

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Sapient

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AnointedHeathen wrote:
What's the channel name on LiveVid? I deleted my old account there heh.

 

http://www.livevideo.com/RationalResponders.com

 

 

I didn't even know about that. I put the link in my favorites. Thanks!   

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supexcellency wrote:There

supexcellency wrote:

There are many reasons as to why YouTube would ban/suspend the RRS account:

 hi1: The videos got flagged too much.

hi2: Some copyright bullshit, because there were some videos with news broadcasts.

hi3: YouTube suspended it by mistake. (doubt it, though)

hi4: It had somthing to do with David mills' video with the dog poo. (maybe it upset some self-rightous idiots).

I really hope the account gets reinstated with ALL of the videos that had been posted. Please keep us posted. 

I'm going to guess that it is "hi2" of your list. When i try to go to the nightline video it says "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."

http://tinyurl.com/yond43

Under terms of use i can find is "Do not upload copyrighted material for which you don't own the rights or have permission from the owner.".  But the thing is... It was the RRS on the nightline... and nightline has almost the same video up on their site...

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2837034


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Andrew Carmichael

Andrew Carmichael wrote:

I'm going to guess that it is "hi2" of your list. When i try to go to the nightline video it says "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."

http://tinyurl.com/yond43

Under terms of use i can find is "Do not upload copyrighted material for which you don't own the rights or have permission from the owner.". But the thing is... It was the RRS on the nightline... and nightline has almost the same video up on their site...

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2837034

Nightline producers gave me permission.  All of our videos say "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."

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I noticed this. Any word on

I noticed this. Any word on why? I noticed David Mills' video is down, too. Mine is still up.


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groups such as the RIAA and

groups such as the RIAA and viacom and others are becoming ruthless copyright fascists.  I faer it will someday come to a point when you will be sued merely for singing happy birthday without paying royalties to some fatcat.
youtube has deleted many wonderful music videos and tv show clips over this copyright shit.
so I wonder if the RSS was banned over copyriught vbiolations or due to the contreversial content of the videos?
I am opposed to both cencorship as well as the copyright fascists.


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darth_josh wrote: No

darth_josh wrote:

No problem. They wanna play it hard? We can play it hard.

Time to go to Youtube and e-mail the advertisers. Don't click on the links from any youtube page because then it will register as money for them. Instead just go to the advertiser's individual pages and find the contact information.

After all, it is their money. They should know how it is being spent.

 

 

First off, guess who owns YouTube? Google.

Guess what program Google uses? Adsense.

Now guess how many advertisers advertise for the #2 most visited website in the world? Millions.

 

You'd also be hurting my website aswell. 


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Gisbure has on his site

Gisbure has on his site that it had to do with the Uri Geller exposed video.

Any confirmation on this? If so, don't they normally have a 3 strike policy? Why suspend the entire account? I've had one video removed and all they  did was remove the SINGLE video and notify me of such. 


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check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxOqGyHH5s

 

I thought this was pretty funny.

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Ig wrote: Gisbure has on

Ig wrote:

Gisbure has on his site that it had to do with the Uri Geller exposed video.

Any confirmation on this? If so, don't they normally have a 3 strike policy? Why suspend the entire account? I've had one video removed and all they did was remove the SINGLE video and notify me of such.

Gisburne wrote about part of the story, but the fact is I just don't have the answer.  Youtube has a 3 strikes policy, Geller would've been strike 2.  The email from youtube said further issues could result in a suspension.  Now I spoke to James Randi and he's going to go to bat for me at youtube.  Geller doesn't own the rights to the video that he claimed the rights to, he defrauded youtube to remove videos that exposed him as a fraud.  Irony much?

 

This issue will take time, Randis lawyers need to look at it all on Monday, and I don't want to make an official statement for youtube and set the wheels in motion until I know exactly the best method of attack, and what youtubes statement will be.  Once I rectify the copyright issue over Geller, which should be easy we'll see what youtube does.  If they don't reinstate our account we'll know it wasn't for copyright.  Once we know that... the games will begin.

 

 

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James Randi is a hell of a

James Randi is a hell of a nice guy.


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RRS seems to be another

RRS seems to be another target.  I believe YouTube has a 2 strike policy before banning begins.

 

Has other YT religious channels recieved such treatment (besides Nick Gisburne)? 


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Sapient wrote: Nightline

Sapient wrote:

Nightline producers gave me permission.  All of our videos say "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."

Then I don't get it.  Flagging or just pure discrimination???  Yell


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CrimsonSun99 wrote: First

CrimsonSun99 wrote:
First off, guess who owns YouTube? Google.

I am aware of this. 

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Guess what program Google uses? Adsense.

I am indifferent to this. 

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Now guess how many advertisers advertise for the #2 most visited website in the world? Millions.

Precisely. 

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You'd also be hurting my website aswell.

Unless of course, you explain in the e-mails that you don't support censorship and would be happy to include their ad for the same rate that they would pay google for a click. 

 

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Youtube Is Screwed Up

They allow for the banning of your account, yet they let retards like this have free reign:

TheStinkOfTheJew | March 24, 2007

sniff sniff, i smell a jew. you ain't fooling anyone bitch. i can smell the stink of a jew from a mile away.

**************

The above message was put on my Youtube channel site over 900 times.

I have deleted around 600 of them so far.  And I only know how to do it 10 at a time.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=baconeater 

 


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I hate to say this. Maybe

I hate to say this. Maybe it is more base than we expect. Certainly "free speech" is touted by all, but when that "free speech" doesnt suit the majority, they bitch.

Could it be that YouTube is responding to the market? Maybe YouTube is getting an influx of bigoted crap e-mail? YouTube is like any other business, they are going to respond to the market.

I hope this is not the case. I hope that capitalism, and those who benifit from it, still have empathy for the minority voice. I hope YouTube in its capital venture doesnt loose site of the fact that sometimes the majority still needs to know that a minority exists.

I am all for making money. But not to the point of facism or mob rule by vote. Sometimes the majority needs to hear the truth, even when it makes them feel uncomfortable.  

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:( This is patently

Sad This is patently uncool.

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The Atheist Jew

The Atheist Jew wrote:

They allow for the banning of your account, yet they let retards like this have free reign:

TheStinkOfTheJew | March 24, 2007

sniff sniff, i smell a jew. you ain't fooling anyone bitch. i can smell the stink of a jew from a mile away.

**************

The above message was put on my Youtube channel site over 900 times.

I have deleted around 600 of them so far. And I only know how to do it 10 at a time.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=baconeater

 

 

Call me ignorant, but after reading some of the comments from one of those videos, I was shocked to see that people like that still exist. I laughed at Mel Gibson, thinking he had some drunken issues, but I had no idea how wide spread anti-semitism is.

also, I went to the YouTube link you posted, and it said that baconeater no longer existed. Were you banned too?

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Never mind. The link worked

Never mind. The link worked when I clicked it in my reply. Go figure Laughing


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I finally deleted all but

I finally deleted all but one of his comments.  You'd be surprised to see how many of that ilk are around.  The Jew hating neo nazi types now seem to be in bed with the  pro Jihadist Muslims when it comes to Jew hating propaganda.


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Those muhfuh's on YouTube

Those muhfuh's on YouTube allow that but remove anti-religious? How fucked up is that? I've heard shit before about neo-Nazis teaming up with fanatical moslems.

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XILD is next...

Apparently XILD is the new target and her videos are being removed in mass.  WTF is going on?  I'm starting to feel powerless.  I hope RSS can come up with some creative way to combat this.  Maybe something that the entire atheist community could get actively involved in?  Laughing out loud


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Quote: Nightline producers

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Nightline producers gave me permission. All of our videos say "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."

So, what I gather from this, is that if you post something that was made by, say... ESPN. And you HAVE the written consent. And the RIAA or whatever decides that you have infringed in copyright law, they will take down your video, or ban your account. No questions asked...

Can't you sue them for that? Basically, they're "stealing" something. Well, at least thats the way I see it.


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Some Fundi probably paid

Some Fundi probably paid Youtube some $$$ to suspend the account. Not surprised.