Look all the cool kids need to be part of a group just like in high school. JESUS LOVES YOU LOVE HIM BACK[moved]
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Look all the cool kids need to be part of a group just like in high school. JESUS LOVES YOU LOVE HIM BACK[moved]
Part of the "CLICK"
I am amazed to see how many "groupies" there are. The lord gave up himself for us. We are all sinners and nothing can change that. You may think it is cool to reject your savior but it will not benefit you. In the dark when your alone and scared or some thing bad happens you will call on the lord god and ask him for help. Think about it.
Many people that love you and that don't even know you are praying for you. You might not like that idea but we will continue to pray for you. Jesus is our savior and he loves you.
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Who?
That's "clique" to you bub. And the name's Jeebus Fritos. Remember it!
Our lord gave you your own thoughts, try not to follow the crowd. "Bub" friend or what ever you want to call yourself you are a child our God, be happy and thank the lord for what you have
Isn't a religion a click?
Are you referring to religions again?
If you need to believe this to feel better about the future, I am saddened. There are other things based in reality that give much more hope.
No, we are not. I don't believe in sin.
And you may think it is cool to believe in a 2000yr old fairy tale, but it will not get you anywhere.
No, I most certainly will not.
I already have.
Why? They MUST have something better to do, doesn't the lawn need mowing or something?
I don't care, I will THINK for them.
Who?
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You don't beleive in sin? If someone steals from you they sin against you. If someone murders it is sin. You can call it law but long before it as law it was GOD. Let him help you. He understands you better than you think
Ok ok, which God should I follow and why should I choose him over thousands of others?
"The idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I am unable to take seriously." [Albert Einstein, letter to Hoffman and Dukas, 1946]
There is only one true GOD. Idols and images are not the true god, but sin is a sin. As I stated before "long before it was a law it was a sin
No, it was altruism long before it was law and long before the fairy tale you believe declared it to be the word of "god".
Fairy tales have come true before. Stop fighting what is inside of you. There is no reason to be afraid of him.
Yes, that is all good and well, friend. However, which God is the one true God? I know of many.
"The idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I am unable to take seriously." [Albert Einstein, letter to Hoffman and Dukas, 1946]
I am sorry but I only know of one true god. No other gods can compare to him and all others are man made
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BGH did I break a rule?
Actually, before the bible there was other civilizations who had laws. Also there was gods, and religions before the bible was wrote. So by definition those religions would hold more ground then christianity because they came before it did. God would not wait to write his bible right? Why not create it right after the world was created? To bad those other pesky religions had there religions and gods being worshiped before god of the bible even made earth. Since some religions date further back then 6,000 years.
What makes Jesus special? He died for our sins? Since Jesus is god, he sent himself down to die for our orginal sin to forgive us, could he have not forgiven us anyway? Why did he have to do that? Who was he trying to impress? Himself? He is the judge and jury.
What about the countless contridictions in the bible? What about the evidence against the bible? What about almost each independent story in the bible has been proven false?
Answer those and we'll talk. Don't answer them using the bible, since it can not be trusted for evidence and reason.
"When I die I shall be content to vanish into nothingness.... No show, however good, could conceivably be good forever.... I do not believe in immortality, and have no desire for it." ~H.L. Mencken
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Allah?
Flying Spaghetti Monster -- Great Almighty God? Or GREATEST Almighty God?
And this doesn't sound like an ad hoc explanation to you in the slightest? Come now.
"The idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I am unable to take seriously." [Albert Einstein, letter to Hoffman and Dukas, 1946]
JamesI am sorry but you stated that "gods being worshiped before god of the bible even made earth" No earth then no worship right? God was when there was nothing he created the earth and man created all these othere gods. Mad created them, an image of god but not the true god
No, but you have come close in this thread, by posting something completely irrelevent to the discussion. I am asking you that review the rules and familiarize yourself with them.
Thank you for pointing that out. I amsorry for the infraction. I think I saw the comment and needed to ask why. Again I am sorry
what about him
A hopeless conformist attatched to conformist ideology accuses persons who don't subscribe to superstition of .....gasp ! Get this: conformity.
Nothing good on TV tonight ?
** goes back to reading a book **
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
George Orwell
I am sorry but I only know of one true god. No other gods can compare to him and all others are man made
I would presume you have some good rational grounding to this statement? Any evidence. ALL Gods are man made. THe concept of "God" is absurd, contradictory, epistemilogically and ontologically meaningless, totally incoherent, based on circular reasoning, logical fallacy and blind stupidity.
"Physical reality” isn’t some arbitrary demarcation. It is defined in terms of what we can systematically investigate, directly or not, by means of our senses. It is preposterous to assert that the process of systematic scientific reasoning arbitrarily excludes “non-physical explanations” because the very notion of “non-physical explanation” is contradictory.
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Are you seriously that stupid? Let me explain this... Christian believe the god of the bible made the earth 6,000 years ago. However there is records of gods, and religions before 6,000 years ago. He then wrote the bible 2000-3500 years ago. All gods were man made. The god of the bible is a rather young god actually, the bible is not even close to the oldest religion. People worshiped other gods before people made up the christian god. That is what I was getting at, not that god actually existed. You not picking up on that just shows your ignorance.
"When I die I shall be content to vanish into nothingness.... No show, however good, could conceivably be good forever.... I do not believe in immortality, and have no desire for it." ~H.L. Mencken
Thank god i'm a atheist!
It's ok to be scared and look for some type of logical reasoning that helps you to understand something we as humans could never understand. Could you give your only son to save another?
Oh, better question!
Would you do it if you could just snap your fingers instead?
Flying Spaghetti Monster -- Great Almighty God? Or GREATEST Almighty God?
Part of the "CLICK"
A clique I presume?
I am amazed to see how many "groupies" there are.
Isn't a groupie a prostitue hired to sleep with a travelling band?
the lord gave up himself for us. We are all sinners and nothing can change that.
Prove it.
you may think it is cool to reject your savior but it will not benefit you.
Alright dude. I wanna know where you buy your drugs. Seriously. I don't "reject my savior". Explain in careful, concise logical terms how you can "reject" that which you do not believe exists. Observe:
I REJECT SANTA AND 2+2=5.
What leads you to the absurd conclusion that we do not believe in God because it is cool. My only conclusion is that THC Acid from pot fumes are destroying your neurons. Cut down on the drugs dude. I do not believe in God for many rational reasons, ONE of which is clearly outlined here:
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n the dark when your alone and scared or some thing bad happens you will call on the lord god and ask him for help. Think about it.
I have thought about it. Evidently much more than you.
Many people that love you and that don't even know you are praying for you
I'm starting to think that the word Christian is synonomous with "condescending arrogance and pathetic stupidity".
You can pray for me. I'll be thinking for you.
you might not like that idea but we will continue to pray for you.
Watch me attempt to care less:
HHNNNNNG!!!!! Nope. Damn! I can't do it.
Jesus is our savior and he loves you.
Have you ever heard the phrase: This comment does not dignify a response?
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"Physical reality” isn’t some arbitrary demarcation. It is defined in terms of what we can systematically investigate, directly or not, by means of our senses. It is preposterous to assert that the process of systematic scientific reasoning arbitrarily excludes “non-physical explanations” because the very notion of “non-physical explanation” is contradictory.
-Me
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James, I am not sure I insulted you to make you react in this manner. I simply wanted to point out that you stated the was religion on earth before the earth was created. Are you afraid or insecure? Just as children due when they are afraid or insecure they tend to start calling other names. Don't just read the bible, embrace it
You did insult me. You insulted my intelligence, by proving you have none. I said with sarcasim "people worshiped other gods before the god of the bible made the earth" in an attempt to say "other gods were being worshiped before the god of the bible, meaning he can not be the one true god if god exists at all". I'm not afraid, i'm sick of people like you coming to insult our intelligence, spouting the same stuff over and over, never actually giving any good points on any subject, not defending your views. You try to prove to us god exists, and he is good by trying to tell us the bible is right, and telling us stuff from the bible. To prove your case you must prove god exists first, then you can move on to what religion is the right religion. No proof for gods existence, no proof for your religion.
"When I die I shall be content to vanish into nothingness.... No show, however good, could conceivably be good forever.... I do not believe in immortality, and have no desire for it." ~H.L. Mencken
Thank god i'm a atheist!
Walkwithjesus, This condescending attitude towards the atheists and ignoring the points they bring up while spouting feel good one liners only makes anything you may believe look bad, if not the catalyst for moral, social, or educational lack.
Please, stop. You're only giving good reason to curse your god and making it more difficult for fellow believers(like me) to present your god in a meaningful way.
Mike Gravel for president!
You know...
On threads like this, I'm never really sure whether the theist poster in question is a nut or troll. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.
Flying Spaghetti Monster -- Great Almighty God? Or GREATEST Almighty God?
Your just as bad. You are basically telling someone to stop giving there opinion, yours is better. You are trying to tell someone to stop, because they are giving your religion a bad name. It had a bad name, and was insane 2000 years ago, it never changed since.
You are one of those people who likely thinks no murderer, or evil person could be a christian because "christians would not do that, so they must be not christians".
Let me talk, it's his choice, we will still call him an idiot, as we would you if you spouted the same stuff. If you can word it better, do it, don't discourage him though.
"When I die I shall be content to vanish into nothingness.... No show, however good, could conceivably be good forever.... I do not believe in immortality, and have no desire for it." ~H.L. Mencken
Thank god i'm a atheist!
So far you've made appeals to fear, made claims of a "savior", presented your deity by using an overly simplistic parent/child analogy and now a claim of human sacrifice. Your "one true god" looks pretty much like every other god in history.
This theist drive-by does not deliver !!
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
George Orwell
Of course, if Jesus knew that he'd be raised from the dead, he wouldn't lose his life, really. He also knew he'd be going to heaven...that's not very much like "giving himself up", dying for 3 days, being resurrected and going to heaven. That's not a sacrifice, that's a trade-up.
When bad things happen, I call people who can help. Generally, people who are able to physically help me out, or talk to me.
I don't really care if people I don't know pray for me. Good intentions from folks I know are great, despite the fact I think it will do nothing, but from those who have no idea of my existence? This does not matter to me.
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I forgot to post most christians believe that. I was only recorrecting him anyway when he though I said people were worshiping gods before earth was here, when that was a sarcastic statment to prove a point, which he mistook.
"When I die I shall be content to vanish into nothingness.... No show, however good, could conceivably be good forever.... I do not believe in immortality, and have no desire for it." ~H.L. Mencken
Thank god i'm a atheist!
[does zombie walk]
walkwithjesus, if you have an argument to offer, please do so and be prepared to back up your statements. And before you start quoting scripture, I'll let you know that Atheists do not consider your bible any kind of authority.
Simply proseltizing is a waste is your time and ours.
I will add that you accused us of "following the crowd". Please read through some of the threads on this site and learn a little bit about us before posting again. You'll find that the majority of us aren't following the crowd at all. We've just come to the same conclusions.
Now, if you have a particular argument to discuss, we'd be happy to hear it.
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By doing what? following the crowd.
Actually something can change that, I tend to not rely on lazy-nonexistant-douche.
So why do you do that?
Maybe god could umm... just prevent bad things from happening.
And if I go to hell is it their fault?
And what, am I some child or something.
He owes me money, and his dad ruined my furniture. The holy spirit is cool though, He makes the best drinks.
I charge you with breaking the god.
So were the greeks and egyptians immoral?
Yes, and yet YOU insist "The big H" isn't real.
Actually, most gods are better than him. Mostly becuase I don't have to do mental gymnastics to side with a murderer.
Remember this, even if you can convince us that your story is correct.
Most of us wouldn't see any reason to worship him.
Wot da?...
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Ooh, nice variation from "there are no atheists in foxholes", an argument that is full of bovine excrament.
Love and prayer are both personal things and therefore you cannot love or pray to someone you don't even know to exist.
Jesus died about 2000 years ago and wasn't aware of my future existance. If you cannot love a singular and specific person who might live about 100 years from now, try loving a singular and specific person who might live 2000 years from now. You will find it most difficult and impossible.
Also, do you think that we have never heard theists claim loving us? Or that the dead people they worship as gods also loves us? No, you are lying. You don't love us, you just say that you do. It is just a manipulation method for you and that makes it even worse.
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The idea of the original poster isn't worth any serious debater's time.
I live in Canada. I can not speak for the whole country, however almost all young earth creationists I met(around 100 give or take) they said 6,000 years. Oh... I did mean only young earth creationists, not christians in general. I usually use christians in general, because taking the bible literal, and as divine athority and absolute knowledge they believe it's between 10,000 and 6,000 years old. As for the rest of christians which try to pick and choose out of the bible they try to rationalize that a day for god could be millions or billions of years.
"When I die I shall be content to vanish into nothingness.... No show, however good, could conceivably be good forever.... I do not believe in immortality, and have no desire for it." ~H.L. Mencken
Thank god i'm a atheist!
By the way the Jesus story isn't even original - it was taken from earlier myths such as Mithra and Tammuz, as we have addressed many times on this site.
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Where did you think I lived? I'm quite dylexic myself so I need someone to proofread what I post before hand, or I make mistakes no matter how much I proofread I will never see. Even though I know what the mistakes are after they are pointed out.
"When I die I shall be content to vanish into nothingness.... No show, however good, could conceivably be good forever.... I do not believe in immortality, and have no desire for it." ~H.L. Mencken
Thank god i'm a atheist!
Look at my blog! It's awesome!
I'm also on this Twitter thing
Oh god, I just keeled over in uncontrollable laughter!
Sorry, you're telling us not to 'go with the crowd' when you make up like more than half of the worlds population?
Hypocritical.
For every prayer you send me, I want you to know that I will learn one scientific fact, just for you.
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How could somebody who doesn't know me POSSIBLY love me? We will continue to think for you.
Also Yahweh came from a polytheistic tribe called the ugarites(sp?).
If I were an omnipotent superbeing who could arrange to have my son suffer for less than a day, then bring him back three days later, raise him to glory, start an incredibly popular and widespread religion based on him, and then let him be the divine supreme ruler of Earth and Heaven for all eternity, yeah, I'd probably be able to deal with that. Of course, I could just snap my fingers and change my mind, but I guess I work in mysterious ways.
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