I had a revelation while reading the bible.
Something I posted on the christian sites I am on:
for the sake of this commentary I am going to assume that the god of christianity exists.I was reading my bible and found answers to some questions that had been elusive to me..perhaps I can share them with you and why they still remain elusive:
Does god hate anyone?
The answer to this is no....he does hate someQuote:Leviticus 20:23
And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Proverbs 6:16, 19
These six things doth the LORD hate ... A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Should we love or hate others?
This is what the bible says about loving your brother
Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart.
Love thy neighbour as thyself.
1 John 3:15
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
1 John 4:20-21
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
Then this is what Jesus says:Quote:Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
So what is it leviticus or Jesus is right.
I then began to ponder on the hardening of hearts, why would god harden our hearts like he did with the egyptian and the pharoahQuote:
And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.
And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt.
And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.
And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.
And the LORD said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh: for I have hardened his heart, and the heart of his servants, that I might shew these my signs before him:
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go.
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let them go.
And Moses and Aaron did all these wonders before Pharaoh: and the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go out of his land.
And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, that he shall follow after them; and I will be honoured upon Pharaoh, and upon all his host; that the Egyptians may know that I am the LORD.
And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and he pursued after the children of Israel
I will harden the hearts of the Egyptians, and they shall follow them: and I will get me honour.
1 Samuel 6:6
Wherefore then do ye harden your hearts, as the Egyptians and Pharaoh hardened
I mean god hardened there hearts so that they can get killed and there deaths will give him honour.....but why does he still harden hearts...thats because god wants some people to go to hell:Quote:Proverbs 16:4
The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned.
This raised the question of fairness...if god was hardening my heart, only to throw me into hell....what type of a being is he.
Then i thought god has to live somewhere right......yet the bible says different things...maybe he hasno fixed abode? Maybe he moved I dont know but lets look at what the bible says:Quote:Psalm 9:11
The Lord, which dwelleth in Zion.
His dwelling place is in Zion.
Joel 3:17, 21
So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain .... For the LORD dwelleth in Zion.
Unto you I lift up mine eyes, O thou that dwellest in the heavens.
Let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth
So does god live on the mountain or in heaven?
Then I turned my thoughts towards whether or not god really knows what is in my heart..or in the hearts of anyone the answer sadly was no:Quote:Deuteronomy 8:2
And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.
For the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your soul.
2 Chronicles 32:31
God left him [Hezekiah], to try him, that he might know all that was in his heart.
So that brought into question the holiness of god...I mean at least he wasnt like the other gods that condoned human sacrifice:Quote:Yes. No.
And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors: the firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me.
No devoted thing, that a man shall devote unto the LORD of all that he hath, both of man and beast ... shall be sold or redeemed: every devoted thing is most holy unto the LORD. None devoted, which shall be devoted of men, shall be redeemed; but shall surely be put to death.
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Take the sum of the prey that was taken, both of man and of beast, thou, and Eleazar the priest, and the chief fathers of the congregation: And divide the prey into two parts; between them that took the war upon them, who went out to battle, and between all the congregation: And levy a tribute unto the Lord of the men of war which went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons, and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep: Take it of their half, and give it unto Eleazar the priest, for an heave offering of the LORD.
Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah.... And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering. So Jephthah passed over unto the children of Ammon to fight against them; and the LORD delivered them into his hands.... And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child.... And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back. And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the LORD, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth.... And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed.
2 Samuel 21:1, 8-9, 14
Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. And the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites.... The king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul ... And he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them in the hill before the LORD....And after that God was intreated for the land.
1 Kings 13:2
And he cried against the altar in the word of the LORD, and said, O altar, altar, thus saith the LORD; Behold, a child shall be born unto the house of David, Josiah by name; and upon thee shall he offer the priests of the high places that burn incense upon thee, and men's bones shall be burnt upon thee.
2 Kings 23:20
And he slew all the priests of the high places that were there upon the altars, and burned men's bones upon them.
but alas I was wrong.
So now with a heavy heart I thought well at least I have freewill:Quote:Acts 13:48
And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate.... Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. .... For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? ... Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction.
He hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will.
God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned.
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began.
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation.
I was quite upset and had toput the bible down...but I will continue this commentary later.
A MESSAGE TO ALL THEISTS:
CRY ME A RIVER
BUILD ME A BRIDGE
BUT IN THE NAME OF NOTHING GET OVER IT.