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Caseagainstfaith is a popular poster on infidelguy.com, and also the name of a website he created to debunk people like Lee Stroebel and defend atheism.

http://www.caseagainstfaith.com/

Case recently wrote an excellent article concerning G. Brady Lenardos' analysis of historical methodology concerning 'jesus' claims

http://www.caseagainstfaith.com/articles/historicalmethods.htm

Recently Lenardos attempted a reply, which is available here:

http://www.caseagainstfaith.com/debates/lenardos_rebuttal.htm

I hope people will take a look at his site, because he does a great expose concerning how theists like Lenardos misuse methods of analyses from English Literary History to defend their arguments! What is more interesting is that Case demonstrates that these own methods actually contradict much of what Lendardos says!

Do take a look, and I hope to talk to some of you about this....I suggest starting with the first article, and then the rebuttal, (of course)

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Well

What about this site, www.atheistempire.com .


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caseagainstfaith wrote:
skeptic griggsy wrote:
Paul indirectly answers" I don't have enough Faith to be an Atheist." Could anyone else here add to his commnent directly about the historiography of that book? The book has plenty of nonsense that fundamentalists use that ought to be discussed here also .

The line, "I don't have enough Faith to be an Atheist" is a popular catch-phrase of Christians. Its the title of a book, as you note, but I've also heard Christians say that to me as sort of an "F-U atheist!"

It's a classic projection of their own flaws... they recognize deep down that taking things on faith is immature and embarassing, so they have to make it out that everyone else takes things on faith as well....

To simply admit that their belief is irrational is too difficult.... so in the mind of some theists, it's better to tear down everyone else rather than face up to their own flaw.

This is precisely why I love seeing these type of attacks from theists.... even they are admitting that taking things on faith is irrational... it's just that they can't bring themselves to admit that the problem lies within themselves... so they project it out onto someone else, so that it's safe to say what they really feel about faith: that it's puerile.

PS And this is why the theist's arguments are so bad..... they must subjugate reason to fit under the irrational rubric of faith.... they must resist actually learning about the things they argue over: science, logic, because to actually learn the truth would obliterated their faith. So, free them of this servile existence, and their reasoning may improve.

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Well, since this thread is

Well, since this thread is about yours truly, I figured I stick in a plug for my latest, and I presume final, forth edition of my critique of Lee Strobel's _The Case for Faith_. This latest edition is currently only available on the Secular Web, not my site. I'm out of the country, and don't have my web tools on my laptop to update my site.

So, if interested, here is the latest:

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/paul_doland/strobel.html

P.S. Since this is, at the time of writing, my 42nd post here, it must mean my paper is the answer to the meaning of life, the universe and everything.


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Ah, thanks for posting! The

Ah, thanks for posting! The original reason for this thread was to discuss your work, so I'm glad we returned to that.

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caseagainstfaith wrote:
Well, since this thread is about yours truly, I figured I stick in a plug for my latest, and I presume final, forth edition of my critique of Lee Strobel's _The Case for Faith_. This latest edition is currently only available on the Secular Web, not my site. I'm out of the country, and don't have my web tools on my laptop to update my site. So, if interested, here is the latest: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/paul_doland/strobel.html P.S.

 I'm finally back in the ol' U S of A, so I've updated my site with the forth edition.


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caseagainstfaith wrote:

caseagainstfaith wrote:
Well, since this thread is about yours truly, I figured I stick in a plug for my latest, and I presume final, forth edition of my critique of Lee Strobel's _The Case for Faith_. This latest edition is currently only available on the Secular Web, not my site. I'm out of the country, and don't have my web tools on my laptop to update my site. So, if interested, here is the latest: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/paul_doland/strobel.html P.S.

I'm finally back in the ol' U S of A, so I've updated my site with the forth edition.

 

Hey case, nice to see you again. There's a theist on the board right now who suggested strobel as a great example of a rational argument for theism! I sent him to your site straight off.... 

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todangst wrote: Hey case,

todangst wrote:

Hey case, nice to see you again. There's a theist on the board right now who suggested strobel as a great example of a rational argument for theism! I sent him to your site straight off....

 

I'll go poking around looking for the thread.  But if I don't find it, can you send me a link? 


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ShaunPhilly wrote: Skewed

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Skewed evidence is better than faith any day.

 

Very nice. I loved this conversation, it was a gas.  

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http://www.infidels.org/libr

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/paul_doland/strobel.html

I'm reading this article..

It's quite amazing..

I wish to respond.... once I finish.

So.. I'd like to thank you for pointing it out.

I'm a new member here-- so, it's definitely been interesting. 


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RhadTheGizmo wrote:

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/paul_doland/strobel.html

I'm reading this article..

It's quite amazing..

I wish to respond.... once I finish.

 

As the author, I'm always interested in comments.