I wrote this log and never finished... (Hovind fact recall)
I called the Hovind ministries this morning at 9:40 am est, and was told that neither Eric or Kyle were available. I was told Eric would be in soon and I settled on calling back in half an hour.
I gave him until 10:20, and called back. At that point I was told that Eric wasn't in yet and after hearing my name I was told I needed to call back in a half hour. I was too anxious, I've been up all night working on this, I needed to make sure that CSE knew what they were doing was wrong before they did it again. A friend gave me Eric Hovinds home phone number and I called. I got his wife Tanya who informed me that Eric was feeling sick today (I hope it wasn't that guilty feeling you get when you know you've done something so very wrong) and to call back in 2 hours.
At around 10:30 am I contacted Michelle Heldmyer again (the prosecuting Federal attorney who put Kent in jail). I spoke to her assistant who was clearly not able to speak at length, in detail, or with accuracy as to the legality of CSEs actions. Even if I had gotten Ms Heldmyer on the line she would have to had spent time researching the case before being able to give me much. I did however leave that phone call feeling as if something had been accomplished. I wont go in to details, the suspense is better.
At around 11am I finally was able to get in touch with Kyle at Kent Hovind ministries who started the call by telling me he would be recording it. We talked for 15 minutes. I can't tell you it went great, but I can say it didn't go bad. It would seem as if Kyle feels the actions of CSE were justified. To be honest my only purpose in calling was to make sure that CSE understood what the laws were, which ones they violated, and why. I was hoping that with this information CSE would stop sending take down notices. People who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old, that dinosaurs lived at the same time as humans, and that Noahs Ark actually happened, are ignorant to a large part of how the world operates. I thought it would be reasonable to deduce that there was a large potential that CSE was simply ignorant to how the law works when it comes to copyright. It would seem as if Kyle did in fact have a basic understanding of copyright law, however he'd probably only get a "C" on a test about the issue. He tried to explain to me what he claims are rules that have been around for a while, however I'm not inclined to believe his story. His claim is that there are clarifying terms to Kents claim that "none of this material is copyrighted" listed here. He tried to make it seem as if his clarifying rules for copyright have always existed, however I seem to have caught him in a lie. I've looked at the archive for his site, and you'll notice the bottom of the site has changed. This act is dishonest to the highest degree. When I initially left the phone call I hadn't challenged his claim about his copyright notice always being there, because I didn't have the data. Now I do. It's plain as day. They have altered their site sometime in the last 3 months (presumably within the last day or two).
I stopped writing there, and am too busy to finish what I intended. I thought some of you would want the info though.