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God exists. Any forums about this already? Please post.

 

A forum search engine would be a good idea.

 

Those Way of The Master guys can do some teaching of truth. I want to promote God on MySpace. If I can't get enough progress just here, I can go there also in a combination.


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http://www.myspace.com/220640059

 

I've some Ray Comfort links on there. 


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Ummm... Ray Comfort is a

Ummm... Ray Comfort is a dumbass and was already totally PWNED by the RRS. Didn't you see the main page?

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ShootsSomeTruth wrote: God

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God exists.
Oh really? Do you have any evidence for this?
Actually "god" is a meaningless term and the attempted concept results in incoherency.
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Any forums about this already? Please post.
Typical of a theist wanting someone to do everything for them. Perhaps this is why they are so easily duped.
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A forum search engine would be a good idea.



Those Way of The Master guys can do some teaching of truth. I want to promote God on MySpace. If I can't get enough progress just here, I can go there also in a combination.
If you want the truth start reading everything on this web site

People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.


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ShootsSomeTruth wrote: Any

ShootsSomeTruth wrote:

Any forums about this?

Start with this one.

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God exists?

God exists?

You are going to make a statement like that without any substantiation? No arguments why you believe this to be true?

 

The Way Of The Master guys know how further delude people and that is it.


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A forum search engine would be a good idea.

Thanks for the update.

 

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God exists. Any forums about this already? Please post.

Really? The last time I tried to get in touch with him he was nonexistent Eye-wink . Are you going to give us some mind-blowing, ground-breaking argument, or are you going to give us the cute little, "god exists because he makes me feel special!"

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If you are looking for

If you are looking for threads on this look in Atheist vs. Theist.

On way of the master check out The official RRS defeats Way of the Master thread.


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My God exists. Dunno about

My God exists. Dunno about yours, though.


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ShootsSomeTruth wrote:Those

ShootsSomeTruth wrote:
Those Way of The Master guys can do some teaching of truth.

Sure, they can. But they don't.


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ShootsSomeTruth wrote:

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God exists

Shoots Some Truth, God exists

Well at least its progress from .......

Burn the truth, God exists

Hang the truth, God exists

Maybe we should expect, nuck any truth God exists, next

It's probably be too much to expect, except the truth


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ShootsSomeTruth wrote: God

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God exists.

 

Concise. Yet somehow lacking.

 

Here's a clue, you are at risk of having a new anal orifice forcibly rended into your corporeal self. 


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LosingStreak06 wrote:

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My God exists...
Proof? Evidence? What's the definition of your "god"?

Or was it just another childish remark?

People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.


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ShootsSomeTruth wrote: God

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God exists. Any forums about this already? Please post.

Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.

 

Despite G_d having told me on numerous occasions that He does indeed exist, I'm still trying to hold open to the possibility that He's lying.

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ShootsSomeTruth wrote:

God exists. Any forums about this already? Please post.

Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.

 

Despite G_d having told me on numerous occasions that He does indeed exist, I'm still trying to hold open to the possibility that He's lying.

Indeed I agree, extraordinary claims beg for extraordinary evidence. Your claim that something you call "god" told you it exists is a very extraordinary claim.

Would you like to elaborate or shall I parallelize your statement with "I believe in magic bunnies that give people gold bars"?

People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.


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Froggy618157725 wrote:
ShootsSomeTruth wrote:

God exists. Any forums about this already? Please post.

Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.

 

Despite G_d having told me on numerous occasions that He does indeed exist, I'm still trying to hold open to the possibility that He's lying.

Indeed I agree, extraordinary claims beg for extraordinary evidence. Your claim that something you call "god" told you it exists is a very extraordinary claim.

Would you like to elaborate or shall I parallelize your statement with "I believe in magic bunnies that give people gold bars"?

Of course I'll elaborate. I posted the main part of it here.

The stuff I've listed in that thread is far from exhaustive.

It's kinda funny that the one time I actually literally had it spelled out for me was the least convincing. Most of the reasons for my belief come from counters to my little arguements against it, which are very well timed and executed. If I am simply seeing patterns in the noise, then the universe must use java's random number generator.

In my case, it's sorta like having a magic bunnies give me gold bars. It seems pretty far fetched, but the gold's real enough.

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Despite G_d having told me on numerous occasions that He does indeed exist, I'm still trying to hold open to the possibility that He's lying.

No, you're right, god is talking to you, in fact, I'm god and I'm talking to you right now through Todangst's account.

Send todangst all of your money.

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This topic reeks of drive by

This topic reeks of drive by trolling.


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Despite G_d having told me on numerous occasions that He does indeed exist, I'm still trying to hold open to the possibility that He's lying.

No, you're right, god is talking to you, in fact, I'm god and I'm talking to you right now through Todangst's account.

Send todangst all of your money.

I find your lack of coordinating this with highly unusual events, my current thoughts, and irony unconvincing Eye-wink

 

Regardless of whether or not G_d exists, I'm still left with a significant number of interesting questions from the whole thing. That is, assuming you bothered to read what I linked to... 

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ShootsSomeTruth wrote: God

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God exists. Any forums about this already? Please post.

 

Are you honestly asking if there are any threads regarding the existence of god on this forum?  Really?  

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I also think this was

I also think this was another drive by.


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It seem that many theist

It seem that many theist drive by posts are Way of the Master fans...wait a minute...is that you Ray?!


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AiiA wrote: LosingStreak06

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My God exists...
Proof? Evidence? What's the definition of your "god"?

Or was it just another childish remark?

Polly want a cracker? Proof! Evidence! RAWK! It never ends with you people. Always doing the evi-dance. Evidence schmevidence, I say. I'm not here to convince the likes of you that what I believe is right, rather merely that it is acceptable.

In any case, if you insist on continually bringing the evidence thing up, my God is a smoothie. You'd be pretty ill-advised to argue against the existence of a physical object, I think.


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LosingStreak06 wrote: AiiA

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LosingStreak06 wrote:
My God exists...
Proof? Evidence? What's the definition of your "god"?

Or was it just another childish remark?



Polly want a cracker?
But it is you who is parroting the liars and the deluded, so since this site is about refuting irrational claims I'm not going to let your claim about something called a 'god' go by unchallenged. Which are you, deluded or liar?
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Proof! Evidence! RAWK! It never ends with you people. Always doing the evi-dance. Evidence schmevidence, I say.
That's right. So in other words you have NOTHING!
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I'm not here to convince the likes of you that what I believe is right, rather merely that it is acceptable.
The pope couldn't convince me about a 'god' so who the fuck are you? Huh? A nobody. I'm here to squash your anemic noise about 'god' and just exactly what do you mean by "the likes of you"? If you don't like me I'd suggest you move the fuck on, asshole. Your belief is irrational and your comments here are irrational; you've said virtually nothing since you first posted. You're begging for trollville or a ban.

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In any case, if you insist on continually bringing the evidence thing up, my God is a smoothie. You'd be pretty ill-advised to argue against the existence of a physical object, I think.
More childishness? Does your smoothie talk to you?

People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.


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Wow.. this is the most

Wow.. this is the most antagonistic post I've seen in awhile.  Let's see what I can do with it.

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But it is you who is parroting the liars and the deluded, so since this site is about refuting irrational claims I'm not going to let your claim about something called a 'god' go by unchallenged. Which are you, deluded or liar?

If a liar tells me I'm going to go eat at Taco Bell today.. is the fact that I "parrot" him, make me a liar? Or deluded for that matter...

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    Proof! Evidence! RAWK! It never ends with you people. Always doing the evi-dance. Evidence schmevidence, I say.

That's right. So in other words you have NOTHING!

Heh. The evidence thing get's old because, many times, what many posters here on rrs mean by "show me evidence" is "show me evidence that can only point to one thing!".

As in many cases.. evidence rarely points to one thing and no other.

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The pope couldn't convince me about a 'god' so who the fuck are you?

The pope is the epitome of logic and convincing ability?

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Huh? A nobody. I'm here to squash your anemic noise about 'god' and just exactly what do you mean by "the likes of you"?

I think he was joking.. could just have been me.

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If you don't like me I'd suggest you move the fuck on, asshole. Your belief is irrational and your comments here are irrational; you've said virtually nothing since you first posted. You're begging for trollville or a ban.

Hmm... I would contend that the "belief in God" has not been proven irrational.  Mainly, because i"belief in God" is such a general subject that it's hard to create one all encompassing argument that proves all, or the majority, of them to be irrational.

Especially.. since the word "irrational" is used to liberally at times.  Sometimes objectively used.. sometimes subjectively.. etc.

Anyways.. there's my two cents.

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More childishness? Does your smoothie talk to you?

My smoothy talks to me... it talks to me in tender looovinessss.. and tells me it's good.

Of course.. all these tidbits I'm dropping in may be pointless and off track-- I am, afterall, merely dropping in midpoint on this thread. 


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Froggy618157725 wrote:
AiiA wrote:

Would you like to elaborate or shall I parallelize your statement with "I believe in magic bunnies that give people gold bars"?



Of course I'll elaborate.

The stuff I've listed in that thread is far from exhaustive.
Ok I read your garbage. Here's a summation:

  • something in the back of my mind.
  • The dream
  • a second dream
  • interesting coincidences
  • fortune cookie
  • your eyes changed color
  • repeating dream

YOU ARE JOKING RIGHT!?
Where's the evidence for a 'god'?
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But I'm looking for the truth
Keep looking and pick up a book on reasoning while you are at it.

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RhadTheGizmo wrote: Wow..

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Wow.. this is the most antagonistic post I've seen in awhile. Let's see what I can do with it.
Try shoving it up your ass.

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But it is you who is parroting the liars and the deluded, so since this site is about refuting irrational claims I'm not going to let your claim about something called a 'god' go by unchallenged. Which are you, deluded or liar?

If a liar tells me I'm going to go eat at Taco Bell today.. is the fact that I "parrot" him, make me a liar? Or deluded for that matter...
False analogy. It can be demonstrated that Taco Bell actually exists. There is no evidence for 'god'. Figure out the rest for yourself, I'm not your mother.

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Proof! Evidence! RAWK! It never ends with you people. Always doing the evi-dance. Evidence schmevidence, I say.

That's right. So in other words you have NOTHING!

Heh. The evidence thing get's old because, many times, what many posters here on rrs mean by "show me evidence" is "show me evidence that can only point to one thing!".

As in many cases.. evidence rarely points to one thing and no other.
Gets old? And you get bored right? So then you start imagining things to make life interesting. Fuck evidence. Your imagination is more interesting so you proceed to get as many people as possibe to join your imaginary party. Who needs reason huh?

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The pope couldn't convince me about a 'god' so who the fuck are you?

The pope is the epitome of logic and convincing ability?
Did you wash your hands after pulling that out of your ass?

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Huh? A nobody. I'm here to squash your anemic noise about 'god' and just exactly what do you mean by "the likes of you"?

I think he was joking.. could just have been me.
Yeah, so was I.

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If you don't like me I'd suggest you move the fuck on, asshole. Your belief is irrational and your comments here are irrational; you've said virtually nothing since you first posted. You're begging for trollville or a ban.

Hmm... I would contend that the "belief in God" has not been proven irrational. Mainly, because i"belief in God" is such a general subject that it's hard to create one all encompassing argument that proves all, or the majority, of them to be irrational.

Especially.. since the word "irrational" is used to liberally at times. Sometimes objectively used.. sometimes subjectively.. etc.

Anyways.. there's my two cents.
Your contention is in vain. If you and your theist friends all believed in the magic pink unicorn instead of a 'god' it would still be irrational. A majority does not determine reality. Reality makes reality.

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More childishness? Does your smoothie talk to you?

My smoothy talks to me... it talks to me in tender looovinessss.. and tells me it's good.

Of course.. all these tidbits I'm dropping in may be pointless and off track-- I am, afterall, merely dropping in midpoint on this thread.
I see, so you think your taste buds is god?

People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.


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Froggy618157725 wrote:
AiiA wrote:

Would you like to elaborate or shall I parallelize your statement with "I believe in magic bunnies that give people gold bars"?



Of course I'll elaborate.

The stuff I've listed in that thread is far from exhaustive.
Ok I read your garbage. Here's a summation:

* something in the back of my mind.
* The dream
* a second dream
* interesting coincidences
* fortune cookie
* your eyes changed color
* repeating dream


YOU ARE JOKING RIGHT!?
Where's the evidence for a 'god'?
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But I'm looking for the truth
Keep looking and pick up a book on reasoning while you are at it.


Read the whole topic. I posted a few more experiences.



Every time I have questioned it, I get a counter from an entity that has identified itself to me as G_d. These counter arguements generally follow immediately after the question, or when I begin to doubt it. Since I was very small, I've had strange experiences that have challenged my views on how reality acts. It opened my mind to possibilities, and brought me to a point where something like that doesn't seem to absurd. I've seen the future in a dream on several occasions, and each one followed the same format. There are obvious patterns that stick out there that would be amazingly improbable left to chance alone. Of course, that aspect is not proof of G_d.

My 41 sightings also have very obvious patterns that should not be present in randomness. I've tried looking for other numbers, even looking for 41's, but I don't get the same results. Despite the large and ovious patterns, which even people near me can see, I refuse to believe in anything based on what may be coincidental number sightings.

 

I am a man of science. I have done everything in my power to verify and test this stuff. Everything points to there being some form of consciousness behind it, and if it is my own subconscious, then the mind is far more powerful than I'm ready to admit.

I could list pages upon pages of examples of personal evidence for why I believe in G_d. It is not based on religion, although several allusions to it have been made. I have been given the exact evidence I need, and that evidence has changed in accordance with my ever tightening requirements.

I approach it as rationally as I can. Do you think I take any of it without question? I'm constantly questioning everything, only to have my proposed alternative answers shattered the next day.

If you really wanted to, I could go over a lot of specific details, but I don't think you care. Maybe it's because you misinterpret my intentions.

I seek an understanding of this. I don't want people to believe in G_d because I feel my belief is justified. If you have no reason to believe in G_d, don't. If any of this is true, it will have a profound effect on my future. I don't know what, or how, and that's very frustrating. But whenever I doubt it, I get something like the fourtune cookie I posted. When that's happened over 20 times consistently, you've really got to wonder. It'd be simpler for me to ignore it, but that won't get me any closer to the truth.

I don't expect or want blind acceptance. I'd never expect it of myself if our positions were switched. I do, however, expect atleast some degree of objectiveness, without a presupposed conclusion.

I dunno whether or not to expect a responce, since this has been moved, but I would appreciate one.

 

edit: I think it's kinda ironic that the posts of a moderator merit this topic getting moved to "trollville" 

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AiiA wrote: But it is you

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But it is you who is parroting the liars and the deluded, so since this site is about refuting irrational claims I'm not going to let your claim about something called a 'god' go by unchallenged. Which are you, deluded or liar?

Perhaps your purpose for being on this site is to refute irrational claims, but it is not the sole purpose of everyone here, for which I am quite thankful.

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That's right. So in other words you have NOTHING!

I never recall claiming otherwise. If you can't get over the fact that I don't need to justify my beliefs to you in order to believe them, then it's your problem, not mine.

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The pope couldn't convince me about a 'god' so who the fuck are you? Huh? A nobody.

You didn't happen to take any reading comprehension courses while you were in school, did you? I already clearly said that I'm not here to convince you that I am right. As for His Holiness, he can do whatever he pleases as far as I'm concerned.

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I'm here to squash your anemic noise about 'god' and just exactly what do you mean by "the likes of you"?

The likes of someone whose sole purpose in being here is to squach otherwise harmless beliefs.

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If you don't like me I'd suggest you move the fuck on, asshole.

You're the one slinging ad hominems. Seems to me that you are the one antagonizing the situation.

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Your belief is irrational and your comments here are irrational; you've said virtually nothing since you first posted.

The way I see it, it doesn't matter whether I've said anything or not.

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You're begging for trollville or a ban.

Strong words coming from someone who is telling people to stick things up their asses. Then again, I guess Mod abilities can easily bring about a certain disregard for civility on forums. After all, why be polite to someone who you could easily destroy?

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More childishness? Does your smoothie talk to you?

Of course not. It's a smoothie, you dolt. How on earth would it talk?

Really, it's ironic that you are the one calling me childish. I'm not the one throwing a temper tantrum over something that doesn't even effect me.


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Hey Froggy, I read your post

Hey Froggy, I read your post and it seems pretty amazing what has happened.  I would like to ask the question though, what's with g_d as opposed to god?  Is there some secret meaning behind it or something?

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Nah, just Jewish tradition.

Nah, just Jewish tradition.


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my account was deleted. I

my account was deleted. I thought explaining that some non-Christians reported me as something they didn't like

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Well.  How about those

Well.  How about those recordings of places that are in the Bible?  Bible has history. 

 

 I'd like to do a miracle.  If I did, you would believe.  I'd like to.  The Bible has about prayer.  There are storms that can be explained that evil people are doing something wrong.  A biblical thing.  I thought maybe not all of them. 

 

I decided not to commit suicide somewhat because my parents spent a bunch of time to try to support me.  It would be waste of resources for me to have shot myself.  I also thought about God.  

 

I noticed that my brain sets to certain numbers like 69 and 89 on downloads and such, more of a brain capability really.

 

My life would be without some meaning if I believed God didn't exist.  I believe good works matter.  I'm motivated to do work more than non-Christians would be.  Ethics have more value. Believing a God exists allow you to become more effective in life.

 

 I read and/or heard of evidence of the Bible.  That helps.  I'd like to engage in sexual immorality except I believe it's wrong so I'm trying not to. 

 

 I thought I could add more later if I cared enough.  I could have provided information for you because eternity is important.  Believe and do the eternal salvation prayer before death.  Some think you can't lose eternal salvation if you already got it.  I figured that to not be so.

 

I'll save this text on a document just in case it is deleted. 

 

If you delete your text by clicking undo, you won't be able to get it back.

 


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Well.  How about those recordings of places that are in the Bible?  Bible has history. 

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I decided not to commit suicide somewhat because my parents spent a bunch of time to try to support me.  It would be waste of resources for me to have shot myself.  I also thought about God. 

I decided not to commit suicide because I realized that I was worth something.  I didn't think about god.  My parents never supported me, because they don't care.  And yes, they are Christians.

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Some think you can't lose eternal salvation if you already got it.  I figured that to not be so.

(gasp!)  The Bible says that once you have salvation you can't lose it.  Are you trying to contradict what you believe in?

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I read and/or heard of evidence of the Bible.  That helps.

I've heard of evidence that Islam is true.  Does this make it true?  No.

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I'd like to do a miracle.  If I did, you would believe.  I'd like to.  The Bible has about prayer.  There are storms that can be explained that evil people are doing something wrong.  A biblical thing.  I thought maybe not all of them.

I'd like you to do a miracle too.  If you were able to do one, I'd believe you.  Unfortunately, I doubt it's going to happen.

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http://www.myspace.com/220640059

 

I've some Ray Comfort links on there. 

 

If you have not saw, this is the RSS not TCT.

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If you want to know more

If you want to know more about god, try killing yourself, and go from there. Thats also a good idea to get closer to god, too.

I'm infallible. I don't know why you can't remember that.