Seperating the real atheists from the fake ones... a Christians perspective. [Trollville]
I've read some of the posts in these threads and have not been impressed with the logic or "rationality" that has been on display. I believe that many of you don't go far enough in your atheism and have instead decided to rest on the fringes. Taking advantage of the foundations (particularly if you are a westerner) built by moralists and theists, when in fact, the very nature of your belief system not only militates against a morals based worldview, but in fact totally eschews it.
Personally, as a Christian, I dont feel a need to defend Christianity, when the clear irrationality of Atheistic and humanistic views are far more fertile for discussion. I think it is time we seperate the real Atheists from the fake ones.
I believe Atheism if truely believed, ultimately ends in insanity, irrationality and incoherence.
How so, If Atheism is true, meaning that there is no God, then man's highest end is to fulfill his own self interests. Morals, notions of right and wrong, good and bad do not exist and are in fact meaningless.
Logic and reason both exist, but do not need to be accepted, since they may ( or may not) interfere with my desire to fulfill my own self interests. The highest order is self actualization and self fulfillment, not logical consistency or even coherence, since my feelings may change at a moments notice.
There is more to the discussion, but I'll wait for a response.
My real hope is that the world would fall into the hands of the real atheists... you know the kind I mean, the kind who say: "A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy... " or the kind who say "life is ultimately futile and bereft of meaning" or the kind who believe like the Nazi's did, that man is whatever you define him to be, and that right and wrong are only ephemeral notions with no real root in the real world. Those are the real Atheist as Nietszche reasoned who will to power...
I'd love to see what that kind of world looks like. I say away with the Fake atheists and lets let the real ones rule.