How many did God kill vs Satan?

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How many did God kill vs Satan?

How many people did God kill in the Bible?

It's impossible to say for sure, but plenty. How many did God drown in the flood or burn to death in Sodom and Gomorrah? How many first-born Egyptians did he kill? There's just no way to count them all. This list doesn't include those figures.

  SAB, Brick Testament Number Killed Cumulative Total
Lot's wife for looking back Gen.19:26, BT 1 1
Er who was "wicked in the sight of the Lord" Gen.38:7, BT 1 2
Onan for spilling his seed Gen.38:10, BT 1 3
For dancing naked around Aaron's golden calf Ex.32:27-28, 35, BT 3000 3003
Aaron's sons for offering strange fire before the Lord Lev.10:1-3, Num.3:4, 26:61, BT 2 3005
A blasphemer Lev.24:10-23, BT 1 3006
A man who picked up sticks on the SabbathNum.15:32-36, BT 1 3007
Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families) Num.16:27, BT 12+ 3019+
Burned to death for offering incense Num.16:35, 26:10, BT 250 3269+
For complaining Num.16:49, BT 14,700 17,969+
For "committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab" Num.25:9, BT 24,000 41,969+
Midianite massacre (32,000 virgins were kept alive) Num.31:1-35, BT 90,000+ 131,969+
God tells Joshua to stoned to death Achan (and his family) for taking the accursed thing. Joshua 7:10-12, 24-26, BT 5+ 131,974+
God tells Joshua to attack Ai and do what he did to Jericho (kill everyone). Joshua 8:1-25, BT 12,000 143,974+
God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites Judges 1:4, BT 10,000 153,974+
Ehud delivers a message from God: a knife into the king's belly Jg.3:15-22, BT 1 153,975+
God delivered Moabites Jg.3:28-29, BT 10,000 163,975+
God forces Midianite soldiers to kill each other. Jg.7:2-22, 8:10, BT 120,000 283,975+
The Spirit of the Lord comes on Samson Jg.14:19, BT 30 284,005+
The Spirit of the Lord comes mightily on Samson Jg.15:14-15, BT 1000 285,005+
Samson's God-assisted act of terrorism Jg.16:27-30, BT 3000 288,005+
"The Lord smote Benjamin" Jg.20:35-37, BT 25,100 313,105+
More Benjamites Jg.20:44-46 25,000 338,105+
For looking into the ark of the Lord 1 Sam.6:19 50,070 388,175+
God delivered Philistines 1 Sam.14:12 20 388,195+
Samuel (at God's command) hacks Agag to death 1 Sam.15:32-33 1 388,196+
"The Lord smote Nabal." 1 Sam.25:38 1 388,197+
Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling 2 Sam.6:6-7, 1 Chr.13:9-10 1 388,198+
David and Bathsheba's baby boy 2 Sam.12:14-18 1 388,199+
Seven sons of Saul hung up before the Lord 2 Sam.21:6-9 7 388,206+
From plague as punishment for David's census (men only; probably 200,000 if including women and children) 2 Sam.24:13, 1 Chr.21:7 70,000+ 458,206+
A prophet for believing another prophet's lie 1 Kg.13:1-24 1 458,207+
God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites' hands 1 Kg.20:28-29 100,000 558,207+
God makes a wall fall on Syrian soldiers 1 Kg.20:30 27,000 585,207+
God sent a lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet 1 Kg.20:35-36 1 585,208+
Ahaziah is killed for talking to the wrong god. 2 Kg.1:2-4, 17, 2 Chr.22:7-9 1 585,209+
Burned to death by God 2 Kg.1:9-12 102 585,311+
God sends two bears to kill children for making fun of Elisha's bald head 2 Kg.2:23-24 42 585,343+
Trampled to death for disbelieving Elijah 2 Kg.7:17-20 1 585,344+
Jezebel2 Kg.9:33-37 1 585,355+
God sent lions to kill "some" foreigners 2 Kg.17:25-26 3+ 585,358+
Sleeping Assyrian soldiers2 Kg.19:35, 2 Chr.32:21, Is.37:36 185,000 770,358+
Saul 1 Chr.10:14 1 770,359+
God delivers Israel into the hands of Judah 2 Chr.13:15-17 500,000 1,270,359+
Jeroboam 2 Chr.13:20 1 1,270,360+
"The Lord smote the Ethiopians." 2 Chr.14:9-14 1,000,000 2,270,360+
God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out 2 Chr.21:14-19 1 2,270,361+
Ezekiel's wife Ezek.24:15-18 1 2,270,362+
Ananias and Sapphira Acts 5:1-10 2 2,270,364+
Herod Acts 12:23, BT 1 2,270,365+


But how does this compare with Satan? How many did he kill in the Bible?

Well SAB can only find ten, and even these he shares with God, since God allowed him to do it as a part of a bet. Steve's talking about the seven sons and three daughters of Job. There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job ... And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters. ... And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? Then Satan answered the LORD ... put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD. ... And there was a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house...And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. -- Job 1:1-19 So it seems that both Satan and God share the blame (or the credit) for these killings. If so, then the tally would be:

Lots!

Source/Credit: Steve Wells Skeptics Annotated Bible Check him out:

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Hesed wrote:     I 

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    I  haven't met a person yet that isn't thankful for being above ground daily.

                              Truthfully ?  ....then you live a very sheltered life.

    

                       

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I didn't fail math

I didn't fail math <smile>.  I could never proof a fraction actually equaled a whole!

The Bible reports that Paul said he was born a Roman - until disproven (have you proof he wasn't?) it will have to stand as fact.  Cillicia became a Roman territory in 103BC, organized by Pompey in 64BC, then reorganized by Julius Caesar in 47BC.  Paul is thought to have been born in Tarsus around 2-10AD. 

I do not like the term bloodthirsty because it carries with it a different meaning for me (like wholesale murder).  In the context we have been speaking (sacrifices and Passover) this is not the case.  Animals were used for atonement - this isn't being bloodthirsty.

Well, I can see that you have seen much of what has been reported as "Christianity", like the testimony of Elizabeth Smart.  The couple who abducted her are not Christian.  It appears to me (and I may be wrong - if I am I apologize) that you are grouping many under this banner.  Why does it have to be the same experience for every person touched by God?  We may all be physically the same, but our mental makeup differs.  Yes, we have the same brain, but we react differently (as we witness in this conversation).  No one should be telling you to buy it - I believe all that who have come experienced it first, starting with the thief on the cross.

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Hi AE!  In a word,

Hi AE!  In a word, PASSION.  The human intellect however it has been shaped can make decisions based on passion but doesn't always operate that way (and here is the division).  The heart, imo, does.  I believe that what comes from the heart is spoken or acted out in some way.  We do not have to apply a spiritual context here, although it does fit.  I believe your passion is writing.  Motzart had a passion for music; when operating in this mode his mind was focused; however, he did not operate in this mode 24/7.  None of us do.  In terms of Christianity, head knowledge makes you smart; however, it doesn't save you.

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for everyone arguing over a

for everyone arguing over a "dumb" matter as this, for the people that believe in "god" you will never change their mind. and for the people that dont. dont try and force them to its dumb and pointless. as for the scientology ppl, i too believe science can explain everything that happens in the world


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http://www.stumbleupon.com/su

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/5GILnc/bardcan.wordpress.com/

 

i don't identify as an atheist, but this is my take on death, if only i could come to terms with it. i definitely don't believe that jesus is magic, though. so, yeah, if anyone took away my right to the one life i have, i think i might take offense to that. for your sake i hope heaven and hell are really there, but i wouldn't hold my breath. you wasted life, why wouldn't you waste death.


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nilzor wrote:You do have to

nilzor wrote:

You do have to keep in mind what the Bible says is the main reason for death: humans brought death into the world (Rom 5:12). Humanity killed us all. God/Jesus offers you new life, for FREE, he died  once for all and is the only one who can save us (Rom 5:17-18). Even if God killed so or so many, he's the one who gave life in the first place, he has the full rights to take it. But he doesn't, he wants us all to live and made it possible by dying himself.

 

He created us. If he was really omnipotent, omniscient, and infallible, then how can he have even ONE regret? yet he regrets creating us in the very first book of the bible. This is a logical impossibility. No one who NEVER makes a mistake can have a regret, I submit that the bible was "inspired" by the father of lies, since he himself contradicts himself pretty much constantly. In psalms, love is described as "never jealous", yet when he describes himself, it is as "a jealous god". how can this be? it is a contradiction.


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alHallaj wrote:Tadlington

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Tadlington wrote:
the greek word for satan is diabolos-"slanderer"

 The Greek word for the devil is diabolos (dia-bolos: throwing apart in two parts; splitting in two - note two*). Satan is a Hebrew word with etymology relating to the concept of opposition.

According to the rebellious interpretations, which existed throughout the history of religion, the Devil / Satan refers to human reason and the doubt* it creates. The endless dialogue that we maintain inside our heads; fear; calculations; the illusion of choice - this is Satan / Devil.

If you can't control your mind, you need somebody to blame. You chose what you were taught was Satan, but there are no external creatures - you are your own "heaven" or "hell".

Yes, I can read both ancient Greek and Hebrew.

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*note that doubt implies at least two viewpoints

 

it seems like you have really good insight into the meaning of the bible, i've always kind of thought it was the story of the human mind, and the point at which we became aware of ourselves.


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original G wrote:The real

original G wrote:

The real problem here is that all you loser goths have nothing better to do than to find gaps and errors in all the other religions that you don't believe in. If you don't believe in something, that's ok. i don't believe in the spaghettin monster... but i don't go around spending my whole life trying to disprove it just because i don't believe in it. yes... the spaghetti monster... just as absurd as you trying to disprove christianism.... (which i don't believe in by the way)....

Get a life man.. believe what you want to believe and leave everybody else alone... losers...

if you want to put up how many people god killed, then you are assuming it's real... and if it's real, then another part goes along with it.... that life BELONGS to god and he has the right to do with it what he pleases.... and ANOTHER thing goes along with it... that physical life is NOT the end of this world... hence, physical death is not bad. What's really bad is spiritual death.

But no, you inept, angst-filled, want-to-hate-the-whole-world losers don't even care about that. You don't even care if your statements make sense to anybody else. All you care about is that it makes sense to your furtherly stupid goth friends (yes, furtherly stupid)

If you're going to make a point, make it right... shiiit...

 

How many Holy Wars is the Spaghetti monster responsible for? there is a reasonable justification for thinking religion does more harm than good.


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Story book god a murederous and unloving sicko!

Terra wrote:
How many Holy Wars is the Spaghetti monster responsible for? there is a reasonable justification for thinking religion does more harm than good.

You are absolutely correct!

Considering especially these duped christian BS cries that their god is a ' loving god ' (1 John 4:8,16 KJV story book)  the diseases, ailments, amputees, cyclones, floods, tsunamis, wars, murders, tortures, rapes, paedophiles, prostitution, corruption, poverty etc. etc. their ' loving god ' continues to permit to proliferate, only denounces their claims as fraudulent and their god a liar!

 

 


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this is awesome

OBVIOUSLY,
 

i didn't read all the comments,
but the ones i read were genious, so Sapient, ur a friggin genious,

this the most epic version of letting christians rage about god,
and thereby converting all the "i-dont-know-there-might-be-a-god-i-guess"-people
to "this-is-ridiculous-now-i-know-for-sure-there-is-no-god"-people
 

its the bible version of a fatty measuring his weight,
and yelling "I AM NOT FAT" at the balance