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on medding in other governments. Today on the news the US put sanctions a a judge in venezuila because the US deiagrees with him. Wouldn't that be meddling. Was it meeding in Iran when they made the Shaw of Iran the Shaw of Iran. Isn't the US meddling in Afganistan and Iraq, Symalia and etal.

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Old Seer wrote: on medding

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on medding in other governments. Today on the news the US put sanctions a a judge in venezuila because the US deiagrees with him. Wouldn't that be meddling. Was it meeding in Iran when they made the Shaw of Iran the Shaw of Iran. Isn't the US meddling in Afganistan and Iraq, Symalia and etal.

The US government has been meddling since the day they declared independence from Britain.


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digitalbeachbum wrote:

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on medding in other governments. Today on the news the US put sanctions a a judge in venezuila because the US deiagrees with him. Wouldn't that be meddling. Was it meeding in Iran when they made the Shaw of Iran the Shaw of Iran. Isn't the US meddling in Afganistan and Iraq, Symalia and etal.

The US government has been meddling since the day they declared independence from Britain.

trying to hack into every other country's busines, and then wimper and bawl about it. Putin Hacks the US an the US woops and hollers. The US hack into putins affairs and hollers foul at Putin. The US gets caught hacking Merkles phone and she wimpera and bawls. The US apologises and then gets right back at it---and she knows it, etc etc etc etc. They're all a bunch of kids that can't get past 9 years old.

 

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There's really only 5 major

There's really only 5 major players. In no particular order: the US, Russia, China, North Korea, and Israel. Other than those parties, it's just random unaffiliated groups who are looking for cheap laughs, profits, or simple chaos. There are a few other countries trying to get in the game, but not many. And they aren't remotely there yet.

Most of the west lets the US take the lead (and the US often lets Israel do the heavy lifting). Which is why only the US has seen its tools released to the public. Germany doesn't really care if the US is spying on it, that just means Germany has less work to do. It's not like the US is trying to screw Germany. It needs Germany. Desperately. Germany is the glue holding the EU together, and the EU gives the US legitimacy.

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There's really only 5 major players. In no particular order: the US, Russia, China, North Korea, and Israel. Other than those parties, it's just random unaffiliated groups who are looking for cheap laughs, profits, or simple chaos. There are a few other countries trying to get in the game, but not many. And they aren't remotely there yet. Most of the west lets the US take the lead (and the US often lets Israel do the heavy lifting). Which is why only the US has seen its tools released to the public. Germany doesn't really care if the US is spying on it, that just means Germany has less work to do. It's not like the US is trying to screw Germany. It needs Germany. Desperately. Germany is the glue holding the EU together, and the EU gives the US legitimacy.
if it's not enmity it's trying to find out what the other is thinking. I wonder if all that info the NSA, CIA, FBI, and all the other EYES collect indusrial infor and give it to their buddies. If I were working on a new invention I sure wouldn't use Email, phone, or any communications that I don't control. Fortunatly I haven't got any bog (big to) plans or ideas so I neednt worry . The internet is a spymasters dream.

 

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Have you never eavesdropped?

Have you never eavesdropped? There are a near infinite number of reasons to do it, and most of them aren't inherently malicious. In fact, it is even a method of communication so widely recognised that it appears in film. You want the other guy to know what you want, but you can't just straight up tell him, so you just happen to mention it a few times in places you think or know his spies are operating in, and you got the message across.

Doesn't work for industrial espionage. You might be able to equip your military with pilfered technology (depending on what it is and how widespread the full knowledge of it is), but the courts will rip you apart if you try and commercialise it. There's no real risk of a national security agency stealing your ideas in such a way that you can't profit from them anymore.

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