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Old Seer wrote:All youse

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All youse dumbasses are supposed to have a higher IQ then religious floks.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395972/Atheists-higher-IQs-Their-intelligence-makes-likely-dismiss-religion-irrational-un...

I'll take the use of "youse" as sarcasm. But it is true ratio wise, the higher up say to the Hawking level, the less likely that scientist is to be religious. 

 

I have been on line debating relgion almost every single day for the past 15 years, been at it with not just Christians but Muslims and Jews and Buddhists and Hindus and even once a Rasta. It really is all the same crappy tactics. If they cant out right debunk science, they resort to trying to co opt science and attempt to use it to point to their religion being the one right club. 

The problem with ALL religions is that scientific method is a tool, not a religion. It DOES NOT prop up the bible or Quran or Torah or Talmud or Buddha or the Hindu Vedas. Our species ability to make discoveries is in evolution, not in religion. Religion simply falsely attributes our evolutionary pattern seaking to superstition.

I am not with those who claim religion and science are compatable, that is simply flat out bullshit. If it worked like that, then you could get a Christian and a Jew and a Muslim and a Buddhist and a Hindu, even with science degrees, all in a lab at the same time, and figure out which club or god is the correct one. That will never happen because scientific method is completely independent of personal beliefs.

Ocham's razor stipulates that the most likely answer to solve a problem is going to start with the least complecated with the least baggage. 

So, your options are, there is one true religion, or one real god/s or, humans make them up.

 

I am staunchly with Victor Stenger in his book "The New Atheism" in that there is no splitting the baby with "overlaping" or "separate but equal". Once you start trying to interject your religion or god claim into scientific method, you lose all objectivity.

 

It made sense in anquity that humans made these clubs up because they didn't know any better. But clining to old claims does not help humanity. Religion is like pretending a kaleidoscope can replace a telescope.

 

 

 

 

 

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Brian37 wrote:Old Seer

Brian37 wrote:

Old Seer wrote:

All youse dumbasses are supposed to have a higher IQ then religious floks.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395972/Atheists-higher-IQs-Their-intelligence-makes-likely-dismiss-religion-irrational-un...

I'll take the use of "youse" as sarcasm. But it is true ratio wise, the higher up say to the Hawking level, the less likely that scientist is to be religious. 

 

I have been on line debating relgion almost every single day for the past 15 years, been at it with not just Christians but Muslims and Jews and Buddhists and Hindus and even once a Rasta. It really is all the same crappy tactics. If they cant out right debunk science, they resort to trying to co opt science and attempt to use it to point to their religion being the one right club. 

The problem with ALL religions is that scientific method is a tool, not a religion. It DOES NOT prop up the bible or Quran or Torah or Talmud or Buddha or the Hindu Vedas. Our species ability to make discoveries is in evolution, not in religion. Religion simply falsely attributes our evolutionary pattern seaking to superstition.

I am not with those who claim religion and science are compatable, that is simply flat out bullshit. If it worked like that, then you could get a Christian and a Jew and a Muslim and a Buddhist and a Hindu, even with science degrees, all in a lab at the same time, and figure out which club or god is the correct one. That will never happen because scientific method is completely independent of personal beliefs.

Ocham's razor stipulates that the most likely answer to solve a problem is going to start with the least complecated with the least baggage. 

So, your options are, there is one true religion, or one real god/s or, humans make them up.

 

I am staunchly with Victor Stenger in his book "The New Atheism" in that there is no splitting the baby with "overlaping" or "separate but equal". Once you start trying to interject your religion or god claim into scientific method, you lose all objectivity.

 

It made sense in anquity that humans made these clubs up because they didn't know any better. But clining to old claims does not help humanity. Religion is like pretending a kaleidoscope can replace a telescope.

 

 

 

 

 




if you've debated a hindu, tell us about him. was he brahmin? did he belong to a sampradaya? if so, which? bullshit you've ever debated a hindu anywhere except in your head, unless it was some spaced out, lily-white hare krishna for five minutes on the street.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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I find the article to be quite true. When one gets rid of superstitions, untruths, and false assumptions the mind clears. It's like looking for a road travelling through brush country. When arriving to where the brush clears one can see the area better. Superstitions and misbelieves create mental blocks under which one is acustomed to fantasies, and one isn't willing to see or accept facts no matter what the evidence. A religious person see's an invisible supreme being as fact but has no proof. Under those mental conditions truth can be anything that supports the claim. As long as the madeup info makes sense that supports the claim one keeps believing.

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Creationism is a perfect eggzample. They can make their idea work anyway they want it to. The very idea of a super human running the universe is a falshood that allows them to make any claim they choose. The falsehoof of a supreme being can be the basis for anyclaim if that supreme bing is equivelent to a magician. The first false claim gives credence to all other false claims. The first falehhood opens a road to any other. The others support (by magic) the first. It what the psycho Smurfs refer to as "progressive insanity syndrome".  The main falsehood creates the reality, and the main reality has to be supporrted by more falshoods. Then all gets supported by -religions cannot be wrong or they loose credibility. The very book they rely on predicts exactly that---someday they loose credibility. They're creationist claim is proven to be false by-1, Creation is not the construction of something material, but rather something spiritual. 2- If they are the representatives of the God they claim they are---then why didn't they know that. thus--they're false. Very simple. The material claim doesn't add up, and the spiritual does. They're wrong, hands down, no contest.

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