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I guess we don't have a right of privacy anymore. Dad burnit, if you can't be stalked around town physically then one can't be stalked any other way either. (or is it Ither) All I did was go online to find what the insurance rate was on a 2007 Cheby dually and every place I go on the web I get ads for chevy duallys and insurance of all sizes and types. It's Damned irritating. Some popups use the whole dadblamed page. I know I know, get a popup blocker. That's not the point. No one has any rights to stalk anyone for any reason and in any manner unless you're a cop investigating--- even then I think a warrant is needed. But i'm sure that we can,t expect law makers to do anyhting about it because it "good for the ecomomy" to have every jacklegged numbskull track everyone everywhere.

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Since you visit this web

Since you visit this web site, there is now stored in database somewhere that athiest activists prefer to drive Chevys.

 I think there should be a law against collecting, buying and selling anyone's personal information without the person's permission. SSN numbers should not be allowed for any private business concerns.

But good luck even getting the media to talk about this. They are part the conspiracy to make us all corporate slaves complete with electronic branding. Just like slaves there is no place to escape.

 

 

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Since you visit this web site, there is now stored in database somewhere that athiest activists prefer to drive Chevys.

 I think there should be a law against collecting, buying and selling anyone's personal information without the person's permission. SSN numbers should not be allowed for any private business concerns.

But good luck even getting the media to talk about this. They are part the conspiracy to make us all corporate slaves complete with electronic branding. Just like slaves there is no place to escape.

 

 

looking up stalking laws in Wisconsin. Apparently, if there's no ill intent it's not stalking. I also came acoss in other places on the constitution--there is no mention of a right to privacy there-in mentioned. OK, how about where it says we have a right to be secure in our persons, papers and effects. Well hells bells, wouldn't that be the same as and be an inclusion of "Privacy". How is secure in Persons, papers and effect any good if one hasn't privacy. How would the founders regard it if there was someone slinking about the town back in them days window peeking. You'd end up with a .50 cal pistol ball between the running lights. So, what does the document intend. One has to conclude that it intends that one can go about their life without having to be under the watch eye of anyone, government or other. The only practical interpretaion of freedom has to be ---freedom from everyone else, what other else would freedom relate to. Big business may not intend harm by "staliking" around the web, but it's also none of their , or anyones else's business where anyone is going. It would seem that by the very nature od one's "being" that people don't like being followed around. The term here is---inaleinable rights. Those are rights bestowed by mother nature herself, which is what the founders had in mind. 

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 Well that is not the same

 Well that is not the same as government spying on you, but I hate any kind of spam. I hate crap in my snail mail mail box. I hate robo calls. And the data mining the internet does is way out of control. But even having said that, it isn't that it is done at all, just the shere volume is absurd.

 

I hate to tell you this, but long before modern technolgy, spying on citizens has always happened. The only thing that prevents us from looking like North Korea is the mandate of probable cause and keeping a record in order that a mistake can be potentially reversed by a court if someone innocent is wrongly charged or convicted.

 

It is perfectly legal for example, for law to get online, gain your trust, and lie to you, to get you to talk about a crime they may suspect you of comitting. It only becomes intrapment in general if the law is going out of it's way before you have done something to suggest or advocate you do it. But admittedly I am speaking in a general sense and these laws depend on state and federal statutes as case by case. 

So your privacy is being violated yes, and while you don't have a right to the internet, I also think while legal, the downside is your ability to control your own settings is dictated by the corporate world. So even if you have the ability to pay, you don't have as much say in it as you should have.

 

I would say though, it is absurd to claim that class and money should prevent you from having access to the same things the rich have access to. No, not talking about getting rid of pay differences, that does have to exist. But considering that the internet is huge now it really is no different than saying public roads are not for use by one  class only.  Just like while you have the right to own a TV station or radio station, or even a cable station, I also think the growing plutocracy is undermining consumer's voices.

 

I am not a Che or Ayn Rand fan, I am an anti trust anti monopoly socialist. I think globally the rich have way too much power. It is not a good thing if you value a free press, or the internet, to have an increasingly monopolized media controled by fewer corporate entities. There is such a thing as "too big".

 

 

 

 

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EXC wrote:Since you visit

EXC wrote:

Since you visit this web site, there is now stored in database somewhere that athiest activists prefer to drive Chevys.

 I think there should be a law against collecting, buying and selling anyone's personal information without the person's permission. SSN numbers should not be allowed for any private business concerns.

But good luck even getting the media to talk about this. They are part the conspiracy to make us all corporate slaves complete with electronic branding. Just like slaves there is no place to escape.

 

 

 

I agree, but we don't have those laws because only one class has a monopoly on our political system. I think far too much wealth, not all, but far too much of wealth does not understand the difference between legal and moral. 

The gas on this growing fire started with Reagan and his deregulation, and as I have said many times. I don't blame democratic politicians for anything accept bing too compromising for the past 30 years, and our voter apathy especially in midterms has not helped.

 

If the corporate world wants to bitch about "big government" thy can, but "too big" should also apply to business as well. The best investment is in workers and local. Unless you end corporate welfare, and unless you break big businesses into smaller managable pieces, this will only get worse.

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Shut up Brian. Seer, fact

Shut up Brian.

Seer, fact is that you consented to this by accepting the cookie from the site. You can't be a stalker if you asked for permission first, and received permission. If you don't like it, you can fix it. Delete your cookies, change your IP occasionally, don't surf the net while logged in to Facebook or Google or MSN or Twitter or Yahoo or Disqus or any other social media site. Turn off java. Only you can make it impossible for companies to build a profile on you.

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Vastet wrote:
Shut up Brian. Seer, fact is that you consented to this by accepting the cookie from the site. You can't be a stalker if you asked for permission first, and received permission. If you don't like it, you can fix it. Delete your cookies, change your IP occasionally, don't surf the net while logged in to Facebook or Google or MSN or Twitter or Yahoo or Disqus or any other social media site. Turn off java. Only you can make it impossible for companies to build a profile on you.

Of my ignorance of computors. But, the ads show up everywhere I go on the web. I realize what your saying, but I  still don't think it's right to be tracked by anyone by any and all means. Yesterday I looked up Winches, to price how much a 9000 capacity would be. I get winches everywhere I go now, for at least the next few days anyway. I use Firefox for my main browser, and Google and Internet Explorer on the side. I use GHoogle maps quite abit to see where transports are located within a city. Fiefox won't allow any tracking or pop ups. So, what you're saying is, as long as the othe two are active they do the tracking then, OK, I'll have alook at that. Thanks.

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Most or all commercial based

Most or all commercial based websites and even some non-commercial sites attempt to track you with various methods.

Your IP address is the first and easiest, but also the least dependable for building up profiles on specific persons. It works great for trends though. You might have noticed that a substantial number of sites know the country, maybe even the city and state, where you live. Without becoming quite knowledgeable about computers you can't do anything about this. On the flip side, there's probably nothing that can be used against you here either.

The next level is cookies. Cookies are a very different story. They can track you no matter where you go. They were originally just used to let people skip having to sign in every time they went to a site; and indeed the vast majority of forums still use them for that purpose alone. But commercial cookies follow you around and report every site and page you visit to the company who installed it. Learn about cookies to see how to protect yourself.

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The next level is spyware

The next level is spyware and viruses. At this level it can be possible that more than just your browsing is being tracked. Your documents and emails can be scanned and in the worst case scenario every character you type and mouse click can be recorded. Only anti-virus and anti-spyware programmes afford much protection against this. None of which can ever be perfect, as people write new spyware and viruses every time their old one gets busted. Best you can do is have multiple anti-virus and anti-spyware programmes, and update them daily.

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>So we are crystal clear, do focus on there is a higher purpose

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   Sorry, Hope I'm not bothering you; however, you'd think  everything  on this site  IS  essentially  being made public,  right, Old Seer ?

 

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