Hilary, E-Mails, and Presidential Bids

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Hilary, E-Mails, and Presidential Bids

 How severe could these implications be for her Democratic potential bid to the White House ?

 

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As Hillary gears up for her presidential run, political insiders say she has handed a giant gift to her opponents.

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Clinton never used an official government email account to conduct business as Secretary of State.

From 2009 to 2013, every email was sent to a private account, created the day she was confirmed by the Senate, according to the article published last night.

It may violate federal rules set up to keep all correspondence as part of the official record, searchable by government and journalists alike.

Clinton never even had an official government email address, and according to the Times, her aides did nothing to preserve those personal emails – a requirement of the Federal Records Act.

Now two years after leaving her job, Clinton’s advisers have decided which emails to release.  They’ve turned over 55,000 pages of electronic correspondence.

Political opponents have jumped on this.  Just an hour after the story report, Jeb Bush, expected to run on the republican ticket for president tweetedout.

https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/572608808666546176

Government watchdogs are calling it a serious breach, but a spokesman defended the move saying Clinton is complying with the “letter and spirit of the rules”.

Clinton is not the first government official to use a personal email account—but it is meant to be limited to  emergencies, according to experts, like when government servers are down.

Democrats may dismiss any attacks on this topic, and indeed it would be hard for anti-government Republicans to make the argument that one should always use government email.

Those with long political memories may also recall that Sarah Palin was pilloried for using Yahoo mail as her primary means of communication while Governor of Alaska, so the GOP risks looking like hypocrites.

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Sorry guys

Sorry guys about that screwed up crap in the middle of the freaking document. Not sure how that happened. 

 

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It was certainly a bad move

It was certainly a bad move on her part, but I doubt it's sufficient to significantly damage her campaign. There are still tens of millions of people who have no interest in computers and wouldn't necessarily even know what email is. I think just being the first potential female president would more than compensate, especially since most politicians are viewed as crooks anyway. If the US hadn't so thoroughly embraced attack ads for so long it could be devastating. But the people are used to it by now, and generally ignore them.

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Vastet wrote:It was

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It was certainly a bad move on her part, but I doubt it's sufficient to significantly damage her campaign. There are still tens of millions of people who have no interest in computers and wouldn't necessarily even know what email is. I think just being the first potential female president would more than compensate, especially since most politicians are viewed as crooks anyway. If the US hadn't so thoroughly embraced attack ads for so long it could be devastating. But the people are used to it by now, and generally ignore them.

 

That would be my feelings on the matter as well. With all of the stuff that politicians have been caught in over the last decade or so and still remained in office, I doubt seriously an email scandal is going to damage anything on her end. To be honest, it is quite a boring scandal and does not warrant that word. With everything from extramarital affairs and all the other good stuff, this is just a blip on the radar. 

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nobody bounces back like a

nobody bounces back like a clinton, god bless 'em...


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iwbiek wrote:nobody bounces

iwbiek wrote:
nobody bounces back like a clinton, god bless 'em...

lol


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iwbiek wrote:nobody bounces

iwbiek wrote:
nobody bounces back like a clinton, god bless 'em...

 

HAHA, Very true. 


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 If there is another

 If there is another Clinton-Bush election, I give up all hope for my fellow citizens.


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 Hillary was stupid.  It

 Hillary was stupid.  It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of her.  She wants to paint herself as a smart woman, this just makes her look REALLY stupid and irresponsible, as well as corrupt.  I suspect there will be a move among Democrats to draft Elizabeth Warren.  Bush will have his problems on the Republican side, I doubt he can make it.  Even people who would have supported him in the past are less likely now.  Republicans and the public at large are, I think, tired of family dynasties.  

 

As for me, I will likely vote Libertarian.  If not Libertarian, I will write in Mickey Mouse as a protest vote. 


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iwbiek wrote:nobody bounces

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nobody bounces back like a clinton, god bless 'em...

Don't you mean Buddha bless them or Marx bless them?

I am quite sure there is not one politician of any party that never uses private e-mail in our age of techololgy. I bet if we tracked the computers and cell phones of republican politicians we would find they are doing the same thing.

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Beyond Saving wrote: If

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 If there is another Clinton-Bush election, I give up all hope for my fellow citizens.

Stop lying. You would give up hope for what you want. You and I don't have the same hopes. You still have a huge problem with losing. If it gives you any comfort, I am not on board with those who think Hillary is a automatic win. She fumbled against Obama she cant afford the same mistakes that caused her to lose the primary against Obama. 

I find it absurd for any human to think that the current power of money on politics deserves sympathy. Now please try to claim that Hillary is just a minon for corporate America while sucking the dick of the the mentality of the Koch Brothers.

You and I hate each other economically, so please don't speak for me. You don't hope for me anymore than I hope for you. Just admit you don't like losing.

 

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 Hmm...Hillary was on the

 Hmm...Hillary was on the Senate staff as a Staff Attorney during the Watergate investigation as a young staffer at age 27.  She was fired, by her boss, a life long Democrat because, "She was a liar.  She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer, she conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee, and the rules of confidentiality."  Said her boss, Jerry Zeifman.  

 

 


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And that distinguishes her

And that distinguishes her from every other politician how exactly? lol

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Brian37 wrote:Beyond Saving

Brian37 wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:

 If there is another Clinton-Bush election, I give up all hope for my fellow citizens.

Stop lying. You would give up hope for what you want. You and I don't have the same hopes. You still have a huge problem with losing. If it gives you any comfort, I am not on board with those who think Hillary is a automatic win. She fumbled against Obama she cant afford the same mistakes that caused her to lose the primary against Obama. 

I find it absurd for any human to think that the current power of money on politics deserves sympathy. Now please try to claim that Hillary is just a minon for corporate America while sucking the dick of the the mentality of the Koch Brothers.

You and I hate each other economically, so please don't speak for me. You don't hope for me anymore than I hope for you. Just admit you don't like losing.

 

Don't worry, I gave up hope for you long ago, you will forever wallow in your partisanship, stupidity and ignorance. I do retain a small hope in Americans as a people that they will at least shift the Republican/Democrat dynamic into something less stale.

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