Gays are never hurt by religion because religious people never use holy books to justify bigotry.

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Gays are never hurt by religion because religious people never use holy books to justify bigotry.

 Another example of religion not being a poison.

 

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Now sure the nation has been drug into the 21rst century, but considering that the weapon used to deny gays rights, and still some states today doing so. I find it very absurd why some here refuse to accept the reality that religion is poison. Now again, time after time some here take that statement as being an act of bigotry itself when it is really saying that it is a horrible way for humans to find common ground and is simply nothing more than a reflection of our tribal evolution. It is the same as saying "While you cannot stop people from wanting to drive cars you can face them with their bad driving habits, bad car models and bad highway designs."

It is simply the recognition that in order to manage differences religion cannot be given a taboo. We must face humans with this harsh truth, not as an act of government force, but as a mirror to take away anything religion can use to justify cruelty to others. Now in doing that, just like humans have learned to live without religious based horrors like slavery, like the science denying of the Church of Galileo, and the atrocities of the dark ages, we can learn to give up on bad ideas over time, just like we know the earth is not flat. Just like we live fine without believing in the Son God Ra.

The poison is insisting on taboos to placate those who cling to past merely for a sense of tradition. If our species never questioned social norms our species never would have left the caves. The poison of religion is that it teaches humans to accept kaleidoscope thinking. It teaches them to stop thinking and stop inquiry in favor of protecting their club over any potential fact that might conflict with their belief. Now that is talking about religion as an idea, not individuals who believe. Penn said it and I agree "Don't hate the faithful, hate faith itself," Now here is where my "detractors" continue on about what a big meanie I am for simply recognizing our species gap filling flaw.

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     There are scores of

 

    There are scores of gays and lesbians who are religious and who embrace Christianity, they just subscribe to a very liberal wing.  Good luck trying to pry them away from their faith.

Wasn't it Jesus who said ? "Sure, morality is nice but this is business."


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    There are scores of gays and lesbians who are religious and who embrace Christianity, they just subscribe to a very liberal wing.  Good luck trying to pry them away from their faith.

Yea and women belong to the GOP and are Christians who dont mind men telling them they have the right to control their bodies. There are women who don't mind making less than men. Oh and at one time there were Chrisitan women who had a problem with Susan B Anthony rocking the boat.

 

Yea, they have simply managed to water down how they interpret the bible. So? No religious progressive today can change the original intent of when those books were written. To know this all one has to see is how many hundreds of years in the past far too much of the Middle east is today who arrest gays and still treat women as property and get excused by the moderate and liberal muslims in the east.

 

This is the problem with liberals, full of awesome intent, but fail to see that holy books are weapons and for every kind act they point to in them, those same books with the same exact words are used by others to justify violence and oppression. Humans have a short term memory.

 

 

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Brian37 wrote: Yea, they

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Yea, they have simply managed to water down how they interpret the bible. So?

 

   Yeah, so ?  You can't even tolerate a watered down, more tolerant version of the Bible ?   How tolerant of you.

 

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No religious progressive today can change the original intent of when those books were written.

 

     Every Christian sect both liberal and conservative use the same god damned Bible and both sides will tell you that they have the correct interpretation of the "original intent". 

 

 

 

 

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This is the problem with liberals, full of awesome intent, but fail to see that holy books are weapons and for every kind act they point to in them, those same books with the same exact words are used by others to justify violence and oppression.

 

 

 

     Burn every holy book, tear down every place of worship, and completely eradicate belief in gods.  Guess what, violence and oppression will still exist.  People will always find other reasons to engage in sectarian behavior.   Jesus Christ, you are naive.

 

 

Wasn't it Jesus who said ? "Sure, morality is nice but this is business."


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Brian37 wrote:There are

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There are women who don't mind making less than men.

And there are some women who make shitloads more than you. And being the greedy fuck you are, you support going after them with state police power to take it.  

Obviously, she just has too much testosterone. 

 

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Oh and at one time there were Chrisitan women who had a problem with Susan B Anthony rocking the boat.

Susan B Anthony was a Quaker, that is about as batshit crazy extreme as religion can get.

 

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This is the problem with liberals, full of awesome intent,

Awesome intent? If greedy, self absorbed, intolerant, assholism counts as "awesome". 

 

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but fail to see that holy books are weapons and for every kind act they point to in them,

It would have to be a pretty hefty bible to be useful as a weapon. 

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intellectually honest

intellectually honest pursuit of "original intent" is pretty much only interesting to academics. as was said, religious practitioners already think they have the "original intent" well in hand. and we can only ever approximate it anyhow, and there is hardly a consensus in scholarship. someone who is anti-religion is always going to single out the more gruesome theories as definitive. religious liberals are always going to go for the less violent theories. the judicious are going to admit that we don't really know for sure.

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Obviously, she just has too much testosterone.



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well, you're quite a few

well, you're quite a few steps ahead of me, then, because i can never think of a single way to take anything dana says.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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   Do you don't mind terribly, and even if you do, listen up stop blocking my existing pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Or should I have a hand-written letter send to the co-founder ?!??    Here's a overdue and simple solution, simply ban me. You yourself labelled me a troll. But as a parting request, however, DO NOT BLOCK or eliminate any of the previously existing posted pictures (or Uploaded images). Especially coming from the one with the "you can say anything you want" policy, so you have no right, nor power, to block the existing posted images, capisce?!?  Is that understood, by you?!! If you dont want me  to post anything  on this board,  that is fine; but you dont get pissed off and block existing posted images !! Capisce?! You might want to confer with some of your fellow administrators but you just do nothing about this. No matter how tired you are of this by now.  If you wont please somebody unblock this threads images. Why ? Because I asked so nicely, naturally!!  Oh, Thanks again for getting them back up and bye-bye!!


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Hows about YOU stop editing your fucking posts a billion fucking times. Write whatever letter you like, I'm not using my moderation powers in any way. Brian Sapient isn't going to ban people from the site just for responding to a topic.

I'm not going to ban anyone. I'm not going to edit your posts unless you break the site with your formatting commands (and that's the ONLY time I've ever done anything to your posts). But I am going to respond when you incessantly edit posts and bring up 4 years dead topics, because YOU are making me look at it. It's my job to look at every post and keep the spam at bay, and you waste my time more than anyone else.

Here's a suggestion you'll probably ignore: Make your own topic, and put as many pics, vids, poems, and whatever else you want in there. I'll never go in it unless you ask me to. But anywhere else, I'll be there to keep you from wasting my time over and over and over and over and over and over again.

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yeah, i'll second that. from what i can see, vastet hasn't "blocked" your posts at all (don't even know what that would look like). he's just replying to the topic to stop the gratuitous editing, which, as he said, makes his job as a mod more difficult. nothing in the rules regulates one's intentions in posting. if they did, you'd be in at least as much trouble as him. and how did he label you a troll? you don't have the badge and, to my knowledge, none of your content has been sent to trollville.

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I said she was trolling in the Fonzie topic a month or 3 ago. Doubtless that's what she's referring to. However, I said she was being a troll, not that she was a troll. I guess she took it the wrong way. *shrug* Not my problem. She was being a troll afterall.

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I've been gone for two

I've been gone for two months and when I get back it is the same stuff over and over. I think I'll disappear for a little bit longer and check in when there are christians who want to discuss their delusions.

On the other side, I too was getting really annoyed with Dana's posts which constantly were being updated and then causing me to click on the thread only to find that the last post was indeed one of Dana's posts from weeks or months ago.

However I have since then assumed that the posts were being modified not by Dana but because the links that pointed to an outside source, the pictures might have changed? I didn't care either way. I had finally figured out how to make sense of Dana's posts and actually found them enjoyable instead of annoying.

To each is there own. I'm glad I'm not an admin here. I'd either be crazy to take on the task or go crazy trying to do it.

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I said it before Ban Me !!

 

 

 You (BEACHBUM) along with a lot of mouthy others aren't paying attention, at all !!  Wow, This is hyperbole, now at some seriously treacherous levels,  Jack(s)! If you or others were here, at all; you'd noticed the  noticeably fewer edits and the slow traffic of late, bub !  I said it before Ban Me !!

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um, i think digital just

um, i think digital just stuck up for you. why are you turning on him? did you read his whole post?

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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iwbiek wrote:um, i think

iwbiek wrote:
um, i think digital just stuck up for you. why are you turning on him? did you read his whole post?

lmao, I can't get any respect.


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danatemporary wrote:  re:

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And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people maybe more
People talking without speaking
People hearing without listening
People writing songs that voices never shared
Without a thought, for no one dared 
Do disturb the sound of silence

 

The only thing which was ever annoying was clicking on an old thread thinking that it had been updated but only to find it had not.

For a long time I was confused about your posts and skipped over them but then it became very stimulating because each pictures was a word.

When I figured it out I went through them like hieroglyphics, one word at a time, sort of making up sentences. Some times I got it, some times I didn't.

As for the rest of the shit going on I don't really care. You have issues. I have issues. They have issues. The whole world is filled with the same.

What is the most amazing thing is how you create the posts. I'm speechless that you take the time to go through each picture to project an emotion or word.

Each post must take you a long time to finish unless you have good organizational skills.

 


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