Government in the Torture business.

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Government in the Torture business.

I am amazed at the naivety of all the critics of waterboarding, saying how they can't believe that our beloved governent would torture. The business of government is torture. All their power comes from the threat or use of torture or death.

It's hard to argue that our overcrowed prisions are not prolonged torture chambers. If you asked prisioners if they would trade a few minutes of waterboarding for their freedom, I'm sure you would get an extremely high percentage of waterboarding takers.

Widespread torture as a means to control the masses is just another inevitable outcome our competitive world.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/131022/un-says-prison-overcrowding-can-be-form-torture

 

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EXC wrote:I am amazed at the

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I am amazed at the naivety of all the critics of waterboarding, saying how they can't believe that our beloved governent would torture. The business of government is torture. All their power comes from the threat or use of torture or death.

It's hard to argue that our overcrowed prisions are not prolonged torture chambers. If you asked prisioners if they would trade a few minutes of waterboarding for their freedom, I'm sure you would get an extremely high percentage of waterboarding takers.

Widespread torture as a means to control the masses is just another inevitable outcome our competitive world.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/131022/un-says-prison-overcrowding-can-be-form-torture

 

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EXC wrote:I am amazed at the

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I am amazed at the naivety of all the critics of waterboarding, saying how they can't believe that our beloved governent would torture. The business of government is torture. All their power comes from the threat or use of torture or death.

It's hard to argue that our overcrowed prisions are not prolonged torture chambers. If you asked prisioners if they would trade a few minutes of waterboarding for their freedom, I'm sure you would get an extremely high percentage of waterboarding takers.

Widespread torture as a means to control the masses is just another inevitable outcome our competitive world.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/131022/un-says-prison-overcrowding-can-be-form-torture

 

Who is denying it? Our government throughout it's history has done some horrible things. That does not mean everyone should support everything they do. This is why we have checks and balances and why we have oversight and even the freedom of information act. 

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Brian37 wrote:EXC wrote:I am

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I am amazed at the naivety of all the critics of waterboarding, saying how they can't believe that our beloved governent would torture. The business of government is torture. All their power comes from the threat or use of torture or death.

It's hard to argue that our overcrowed prisions are not prolonged torture chambers. If you asked prisioners if they would trade a few minutes of waterboarding for their freedom, I'm sure you would get an extremely high percentage of waterboarding takers.

Widespread torture as a means to control the masses is just another inevitable outcome our competitive world.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/131022/un-says-prison-overcrowding-can-be-form-torture

 

Who is denying it? 

Your kidding right?


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All the people that are

All the people that are worked up about waterboarding have the premise that government shouldn't torture anyone or threaten torture are in denial. It goes on every day in our overcrowed prisions.

 

That is what government is, torture and deadly force. A necessary evil to control the unwashed masses. You are in denial because you think government can be some sort of benevolent sugar daddy to you.

 

 

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EXC wrote:That is what

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That is what government is, torture and deadly force. A necessary evil to control the unwashed masses. You are in denial because you think government can be some sort of benevolent sugar daddy to you.

I should never expect that the government shouldn't be there to take care of me.


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That is what government is, torture and deadly force. A necessary evil to control the unwashed masses. You are in denial because you think government can be some sort of benevolent sugar daddy to you.

I should never expect that the government shouldn't be there to take care of me.

After taking care of themselves, you're lucky to get back a few crumbs.

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That is what government is, torture and deadly force. A necessary evil to control the unwashed masses. You are in denial because you think government can be some sort of benevolent sugar daddy to you.

I should never expect that the government shouldn't be there to take care of me.

After taking care of themselves, you're lucky to get back a few crumbs.

I can agree with that


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EXC wrote:All the people

EXC wrote:

All the people that are worked up about waterboarding have the premise that government shouldn't torture anyone or threaten torture are in denial. It goes on every day in our overcrowed prisions.

 

That is what government is, torture and deadly force. A necessary evil to control the unwashed masses. You are in denial because you think government can be some sort of benevolent sugar daddy to you.

 

 

The US government is not an example of government in general. Just because your country has a third of the population with a criminal record and treats them like garbage does not mean such a thing is common. Most countries treat their prisoners better than the US does, and most countries don't torture people.

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