Do You Know Why The Romans Killed Jesus - Bill O'Reilly answers

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Do You Know Why The Romans Killed Jesus - Bill O'Reilly answers

Pushing a new book.

Religion Kills !!!

Numbers 31:17-18 - Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

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In case you cannot see the

In case you cannot see the above video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7-QoOymXCw

Religion Kills !!!

Numbers 31:17-18 - Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

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that asshole.

                      Bill O is a grossly misinformed fool.  Like any so called christian, he never read the bible.  Where in the bible does it say Romans arrested Jesus and put him on trial?  Answer;  No where!  The Roman governor washed his hands of the whole thing. Jesus wasn't against paying taxes,  it was JC who was arguing with a tax collector and said "render unto Caeser that which is Caesers [the taxes]........"    BillO would have you believe that all JC ever preached about was the Roman tax burdon.  Well Bill O  Jesus was not a fox news contributor and the Jesus storys are total fiction.                 

 

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An imbecile arguing with an

An imbecile arguing with an imbecile making absurd comparisons between an ancient government with an agrarian slave economy to a modern democratic capitalist society about an event that might not have happened. It is impressive that they both managed to squeeze so much ignorance in 90 seconds. Taxes? I'm as anti-tax as anyone but there is a gigantic difference between Ancient Rome and how they taxes and today. "Unbridled capitalism"? FFS capitalism wouldn't be tried for another 1,400 years (using the term "capitalism" very loosely). It would be funny if 90% of Americans didn't agree with one of these dumb asses.

 

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capitalism did not exist

capitalism did not exist until the latter 17th century at the VERY EARLIEST.


let me repeat myself for those dumbasses who are audially retarded, like that fucking papist mick o'reilly, CAPITALISM DID NOT FUCKING EXIST THEN. NOT EVEN CLOSE. NOT EVEN IN THE BALLPARK. NOT EVEN IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE BALLPARK.


jesus, the ignorance everywhere in the world today, including sometimes this website, just fucking hurts.

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iwbiek wrote:capitalism did

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capitalism did not exist until the latter 17th century at the VERY EARLIEST.
let me repeat myself for those dumbasses who are audially retarded, like that fucking papist mick o'reilly, CAPITALISM DID NOT FUCKING EXIST THEN. NOT EVEN CLOSE. NOT EVEN IN THE BALLPARK. NOT EVEN IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE BALLPARK.
jesus, the ignorance everywhere in the world today, including sometimes this website, just fucking hurts.

So what you are saying is that capitalism doesn't exist in baseball, during the 17th century, for Irish Catholics who retarded and dumbasses?

 


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digitalbeachbum wrote:iwbiek

digitalbeachbum wrote:

iwbiek wrote:
capitalism did not exist until the latter 17th century at the VERY EARLIEST.
let me repeat myself for those dumbasses who are audially retarded, like that fucking papist mick o'reilly, CAPITALISM DID NOT FUCKING EXIST THEN. NOT EVEN CLOSE. NOT EVEN IN THE BALLPARK. NOT EVEN IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE BALLPARK.
jesus, the ignorance everywhere in the world today, including sometimes this website, just fucking hurts.

So what you are saying is that capitalism doesn't exist in baseball, during the 17th century, for Irish Catholics who retarded and dumbasses?

 

I think what he is saying is that Genghis Khan was a capitalist who owned stock in GM.

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Capitalism has been around

Capitalism has been around since people started farming. Probably even before that.

Modern capitalism is certainly quite new, but the cornerstone of the economic system (private ownership, generation of profits, and trade) is older than recorded history.

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Vastet wrote:Capitalism has

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Capitalism has been around since people started farming. Probably even before that.

  Yes, the so-called "oldest profession in the world" ...even prostitutes don't work for free.

 

Wasn't it Jesus who said ? "Sure, morality is nice but this is business."


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Vastet wrote:Capitalism has

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Capitalism has been around since people started farming. Probably even before that. Modern capitalism is certainly quite new, but the cornerstone of the economic system (private ownership, generation of profits, and trade) is older than recorded history.

A person making profit trading in a market is not the damn definition of capitalism. Under that definition, every economic system ever conceived is capitalism (including communism), at which point why even have the word "capitalism" because it means nothing.

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Vastet wrote:Capitalism has

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Capitalism has been around since people started farming. Probably even before that.

Modern capitalism is certainly quite new, but the cornerstone of the economic system (private ownership, generation of profits, and trade) is older than recorded history.




the cornerstone of capitalism is an economy based on the creation of surplus value and, consequently, the creation of a surplus labor force. just because people trade, use money, have a wage system, or even turn a profit doesn't make it capitalism. self-perpetuating capital that must continue to multiply indefinitely or die was not even possible without the technological advances in manufacture of the industrial revolution. even the sanctity of private property is mostly an idea of the enlightenment.


key symptoms of the rise of capitalism are rapid urbanization, a shift from a mostly agrarian to a mostly industrial economy (or, in the case of the most developed countries since the 1970s or so, a mostly service economy), an irresistible and rapid trend toward the monopolization of both capital and the means of production into fewer and fewer hands (a trend which can only be mitigated artificially), the rise of a self-conscious proletariat, the rise of nationalism, and the disappearance of serfdom and slavery as they become unprofitable.


if this also sounds a lot like the symptoms of the rise of socialism, that's no coincidence. even marx vehemently maintained that the building of socialism is impossible without the foundations laid by capitalism.

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Beyond Saving wrote:Vastet

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Capitalism has been around since people started farming. Probably even before that. Modern capitalism is certainly quite new, but the cornerstone of the economic system (private ownership, generation of profits, and trade) is older than recorded history.

A person making profit trading in a market is not the damn definition of capitalism. Under that definition, every economic system ever conceived is capitalism (including communism), at which point why even have the word "capitalism" because it means nothing.

First of all that's not what I said. Second of all you're right, every economic system ever used has been capitalist.

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iwbiek wrote:Vastet

iwbiek wrote:
Vastet wrote:
Capitalism has been around since people started farming. Probably even before that.

Modern capitalism is certainly quite new, but the cornerstone of the economic system (private ownership, generation of profits, and trade) is older than recorded history.




the cornerstone of capitalism is an economy based on the creation of surplus value and, consequently, the creation of a surplus labor force. just because people trade, use money, have a wage system, or even turn a profit doesn't make it capitalism. self-perpetuating capital that must continue to multiply indefinitely or die was not even possible without the technological advances in manufacture of the industrial revolution. even the sanctity of private property is mostly an idea of the enlightenment.


key symptoms of the rise of capitalism are rapid urbanization, a shift from a mostly agrarian to a mostly industrial economy (or, in the case of the most developed countries since the 1970s or so, a mostly service economy), an irresistible and rapid trend toward the monopolization of both capital and the means of production into fewer and fewer hands (a trend which can only be mitigated artificially), the rise of a self-conscious proletariat, the rise of nationalism, and the disappearance of serfdom and slavery as they become unprofitable.


if this also sounds a lot like the symptoms of the rise of socialism, that's no coincidence. even marx vehemently maintained that the building of socialism is impossible without the foundations laid by capitalism.


That's modern capitalism, not capitalism.

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Vastet wrote: That's modern

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That's modern capitalism, not capitalism.

well, this is the first i've ever heard of such a distinction.

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I've spent years studying

I've spent years studying economic systems, and one of the first things I learned is that any system which has been labelled also has multiple definitions. The longer the term has existed, the more definitions it has. Most or all historians are divided on when exactly capitalism arose. Some say it was the 18th century with the industrial revolution, others the 14th with the end of feudalism.
To make things easier on myself I identified the core components of a system; that which fully classifies it as a separate system. As socialism/communism are the most frequently discussed alternatives to capitalism, the one thing that truly separates the two is ownership. In capitalism, a person owns property. In socialism, it is the state. Take away that distinction and the two systems are effectively identical.
But feudalism is one of the worst defined terms for an economy. Everyone and their mother has an opinion on it. When I look at how the systems identified as feudal worked, I see no significant difference between it and capitalism. So it is my view that feudalism is actually just capitalism, with a completely different set of politics. Political systems are not economic systems. Therefore capitalism already existed. And no origin can be identified for capitalism.

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Vastet wrote:I've spent

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I've spent years studying economic systems, and one of the first things I learned is that any system which has been labelled also has multiple definitions.

I would demand a refund if I was you.

 

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Most or all historians are divided on when exactly capitalism arose. Some say it was the 18th century with the industrial revolution, others the 14th with the end of feudalism.

Not really. Pretty much everyone agrees that the necessary precursors to capitalism were developed in the 14th-16th centuries. Things necessary to capitalism were developed: Banks, speculative trading, loans and by the 16th century joint stock corporations. Economists might choose the adjective they use, but the late 17th century is when capitalism started becoming a dominant economic system. Prior to that, you might find an isolated town that was essentially capitalist, but it was limited in scale. Economic systems don't transition seamlessly and cleanly. They develop over time, some areas transition faster than others.  

 

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To make things easier on myself I identified the core components of a system; that which fully classifies it as a separate system.

And apparently didn't do a very good job of it.

 

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When I look at how the systems identified as feudal worked, I see no significant difference between it and capitalism. So it is my view that feudalism is actually just capitalism, with a completely different set of politics.

Then obviously you completely failed at identifying the core components of the system. Go back to step one. 

 

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Political systems are not economic systems.

No, but the economic system is part of the political system. An economic system is the part of the political system which involves the production and distribution of goods and services.

 

 

 

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Beyond Saving wrote:I would

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I would demand a refund if I was you.

I would only demand a refund if I was you.

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Not really.

Yes, really.

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Pretty much everyone agrees that the necessary precursors to capitalism were developed in the 14th-16th centuries.

No, they don't.

Beyond Saving wrote:
Banks, speculative trading, loans and by the 16th century joint stock corporations.

False. Before corporations there were monarchies that served the same purpose. Before monarchies there were families.

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Economic systems don't transition seamlessly and cleanly. They develop over time, some areas transition faster than others. 

Wrong. Economies evolve. Capitalism started before recorded history and evolved into what it is now.

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And apparently didn't do a very good job of it.

A far better job than yourself.

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Then obviously you completely failed at identifying the core components of the system. Go back to step one. 

Take your own advice.

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No, but the economic system is part of the political system. An economic system is the part of the political system which involves the production and distribution of goods and services.

Which does not invalidate my argument.

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then i see no reason to

then i see no reason to continue using the term "capitalism." if all it means is humans interacting economically, then it seems redundant to me. let's just stick to the term "economy" and leave it at that, since "capitalism" obviously carries cultural baggage that can only confuse people.

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