Atheists want cross removed from war memorial. Article from Christian News.

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Atheists want cross removed from war memorial. Article from Christian News.

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 People who complain about

 People who complain about this type of thing need to go get themselves a real life. 


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on the contrary, it's a very

on the contrary, it's a very smart way to get into the newspapers.  there's no publicity like notoriety.

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I understand why they are

I understand why they are doing it, but it seems like a minor issue and a waste of time and resources.

They would be better off asking that additional statues be placed for all religions and non-religion veterans.

 


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digitalbeachbum wrote:I

digitalbeachbum wrote:

I understand why they are doing it, but it seems like a minor issue and a waste of time and resources.

They would be better off asking that additional statues be placed for all religions and non-religion veterans.

 

i also understand why they're doing it.  this atheist organization can suddenly go from obscure to internationally known in a few days' time if they manage to look like big enough firebrands, and the more incongruous the reaction seems with the issue, the better.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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iwbiek wrote:digitalbeachbum

iwbiek wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

I understand why they are doing it, but it seems like a minor issue and a waste of time and resources.

They would be better off asking that additional statues be placed for all religions and non-religion veterans.

 

i also understand why they're doing it.  this atheist organization can suddenly go from obscure to internationally known in a few days' time if they manage to look like big enough firebrands, and the more incongruous the reaction seems with the issue, the better.

Sure, that makes sense, if they are doing it for publicity then they could have picked a better battle.

 


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Sure, that makes sense, if they are doing it for publicity then they could have picked a better battle.

 

maybe?  a lot of the big battles are already taken.  i think at this point no organization wants to be just another group on the atheist billboard bandwagon.

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Well it sure got them

Well it sure got them publicity, but at this late stage I doubt gimmicks will do anything but line detractors up from both sides.

Might have a significant local impact though.

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fact of the matter is, i

fact of the matter is, i don't trust the motives of "special interest groups"--atheist or otherwise--any more than i do those of churches.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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iwbiek wrote:fact of the

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fact of the matter is, i don't trust the motives of "special interest groups"--atheist or otherwise--any more than i do those of churches.

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iwbiek wrote:fact of the

iwbiek wrote:

fact of the matter is, i don't trust the motives of "special interest groups"--atheist or otherwise--any more than i do those of churches.

I'm special and interesting, does that count?