The Bible mini series on History Channel

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The Bible mini series on History Channel

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I flipped it on for about 10

I flipped it on for about 10 seconds then turned to another stations. The History channel is very limited on actual History.


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unfortunately no since I

unfortunately no since I don't have cable anymore, however from what I heard it was pretty much a blood fest, but not much on actual historical information, just biblical stories being recreated.


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unfortunately no since I don't have cable anymore, however from what I heard it was pretty much a blood fest, but not much on actual historical information, just biblical stories being recreated.

My wife and I are talking about dumping cable. What a complete waste of money.

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unfortunately no since I don't have cable anymore, however from what I heard it was pretty much a blood fest, but not much on actual historical information, just biblical stories being recreated.

My wife and I are talking about dumping cable. What a complete waste of money.

"I've got over a thousand of channels of shit on the tv to choose from... I've got electric light... I've got second sight.."

 

I got an unlimited internet downloading which has made it easier for her and the kids to get off of cable, as for me as well since I watch at the moment only three series, Game of thrones, Spartacus and Boardwalk Empire and they are all available online via apps directly to the TV and to watch online is far far cheaper than on cable, I think I am paying total is like 23 bucks for netflix and a few other streaming options, which is about 100 bucks cheaper than I was paying with cable

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Hello

Hello,

Yes I saw it. I saw no heresy from the Writ, just skipped portions but it is a mini series.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.

Respectfully,

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I saw ads for it

 

 

Jesus looked a very popular guy in Jerusalem. Hard to imagine that crowd chucking him in for Barrabas. 

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Jesus looked a very popular guy in Jerusalem. Hard to imagine that crowd chucking him in for Barrabas. 

It's also hard to imagine no contemporary historians writing about him. 

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The same can be said about

The same can be said about Cicero and others in history.


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Jimenezj wrote:The same can

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The same can be said about Cicero and others in history.

How so?


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Jimenezj wrote:The same can

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The same can be said about Cicero and others in history.

Ridiculous. Contemporaries abound with Cicero. As with Caeser. And dozens more. Physical evidence as well, like coins and art and letters.
Noone wrote about the fictional jesus until 50 years after his supposed death. Noone made paintings or sang songs. If the christian jesus did exist, he didn't impress a single person alive at the time sufficiently to remember him.

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Jimenezj wrote:The same can

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The same can be said about Cicero and others in history.

It would be hard to imagine contemporary historians not writing about Cicero because contemporary historians did write about Cicero. Gaius Asinius Pollio for one. Additionally, we have 14 of his books, records of over 50 of his speeches and over 1000 letters written by him and to him. The Romans were meticulous record keepers and we have significant primary evidence as well as several accounts from his contemporary historians.   

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I watched half the video

I watched half the video before it was clear that I'm a more knowledgeable hirtorian than Ehrman, at least insofar as early christianity is concerned. He's a biased fool.

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That video is lacking in every thing except over inflated opinions.

I look at the "history of jesus" being an upside down pyramid with a small base. It's rocking back and forth ready to fall because it is top heavy with a lot of lies and myths.

If you take Cicero and compare it to Jesus, you have this massive evidence base which makes a good strong foundation. It is an upright pyramid which comes to a point eventually because after X number of centuries you have less and less people writing about him.

Sorry, but Cicero has a "ton" more evidence proving that he existed and Jesus has... well... a 1/3rd of a thimble full.

 


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Jimenezj wrote:The same can

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The same can be said about Cicero and others in history.

No there is far far more evidence for cicero than jesus. There are actual letters he wrote, poetry, etc, etc, etc. Contemporary historians alive at his time, actual documents, including government documents. We have ZERO of that for jesus.


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latincanuck wrote:Jimenezj

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Jimenezj wrote:
The same can be said about Cicero and others in history.

No there is far far more evidence for cicero than jesus. There are actual letters he wrote, poetry, etc, etc, etc. Contemporary historians alive at his time, actual documents, including government documents. We have ZERO of that for jesus.

Remember that Jesus walked on water, multiplied bread and fish for many from a loaf of bread and a few fish, raised the dead, cast out demons and rose from the dead.

That must be proof enough for any one?


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latincanuck wrote:

Jimenezj wrote:
The same can be said about Cicero and others in history.

No there is far far more evidence for cicero than jesus. There are actual letters he wrote, poetry, etc, etc, etc. Contemporary historians alive at his time, actual documents, including government documents. We have ZERO of that for jesus.

Remember that Jesus walked on water, multiplied bread and fish for many from a loaf of bread and a few fish, raised the dead, cast out demons and rose from the dead.

That must be proof enough for any one?

 

oh yeah and shows up in cut trees, toasted bread and dogs asses


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digitalbeachbum wrote:

latincanuck wrote:

Jimenezj wrote:
The same can be said about Cicero and others in history.

No there is far far more evidence for cicero than jesus. There are actual letters he wrote, poetry, etc, etc, etc. Contemporary historians alive at his time, actual documents, including government documents. We have ZERO of that for jesus.

Remember that Jesus walked on water, multiplied bread and fish for many from a loaf of bread and a few fish, raised the dead, cast out demons and rose from the dead.

That must be proof enough for any one?

 

oh yeah and shows up in cut trees, toasted bread and dogs asses

Oh yeah, forgot those... nor the showing up on mirrored windows, potato chips and pancakes

 


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"Cicero wrote letters"
So did Paul and other Apostles.

There is more evidence for Jesus Christ in history than any other
Person living during that era. Not bad for a peasant carpenter.
Can you name me another peasant who became as famous as Jesus?

appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence for a no God. 


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Jimenezj wrote:"Cicero wrote

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"Cicero wrote letters" So did Paul and other Apostles.

yup, and very few people question a historical paul.  just like very few people question a historical vergil...now, aeneas, however, is a different story...

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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Jimenezj wrote:"Cicero wrote

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"Cicero wrote letters" So did Paul and other Apostles. There is more evidence for Jesus Christ in history than any other Person living during that era. Not bad for a peasant carpenter. Can you name me another peasant who became as famous as Jesus?

Jesus was not a peasant

There is not more evidence for Jesus than any other during that era.

Produce 10 items of proof for Jesus and I'll produce 10 items of proof for Cicero. We can then compare mythical to factual evidence.

Genghis Khan was supposedly a son of a black smith, but there are others who became famous through out history from humble beginnings.

 


 


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There is more evidence for Jesus Christ in history than any other Person living during that era. Not bad for a peasant carpenter. Can you name me another peasant who became as famous as Jesus?

that is patently absurd.  so you're saying there is more contemporary evidence for jesus than augustus, tiberius, livy, claudius, agrippina the elder, germanicus, caligula, herod the great, artabanus iii, etc., etc.?

do you know what stupidity is?  it's persistant, willful ignorance.

and there are plenty of ancient peasants who became as famous as jesus: perseus, heracles, cyrus the great, achilles, moses, krishna, nagarjuna, shankaracharya, the chinese emperors yao and shun, confucius, lao tzu, among countless others.  some are reasonably historical (confucius,  cyrus, nagarjuna, shankaracharya, lao tzu), others not, but what do all their stories have in common?  myth and legend.

 

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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Jimenezj wrote: There is

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There is more evidence for Jesus Christ in history than any other Person living during that era.

Rofl, demonstrably false. 

 

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Can you name me another peasant who became as famous as Jesus?

Hercules, Robin Hood (in the original versions of the story he was common born, although some modern adaptations present him as a noble), Santa Clause, Joan of Arc, Spartacus, Peter Pan, Alice, Dorothy, Johnny Appleseed, Paul Bunyan, Wild Bill Hickok, Jessie James, Jack the Ripper... need I go on?

All your fame argument proves is the Jesus has been the inspiration for a lot of fiction since fiction tends to be more popular than history. Note that I listed names that are both real people who had a lot of fictionalizing surrounding their lives and some that were completely made up and some (like Robin Hood) that historians can argue either way, we simply don't know if the character was based on a real person or not. 

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Let me clarify .

Can you name me another peasant who became as famous as Jesus during his Era.

The context is:

There is more evidence for Jesus Christ in history than any other Person living during that era.

I have a specific question to you.
Do you believe president Obama is a socialist ?

appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence for a no God. 


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Let me clarify . Can you name me another peasant who became as famous as Jesus during his Era.

Hercules, Spartacus and many of the people that iwbiek listed were well before Christ. Herod the Great was in the same era (73 bce to 4 bce) and so was Caligula (12 ce to 41 ce)

 

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The context is: There is more evidence for Jesus Christ in history than any other Person living during that era.

Ok..... and that is obviously false, people have listed numerous names of individuals of whom we have far more evidence of their existence and exactly what they did. You don't even have more evidence of him than you have of some of the other peasants.  

 

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I have a specific question to you. Do you believe president Obama is a socialist ?

What does that have to do with Jesus Christ? If you want to talk politics we have a political forum here. 

http://www.rationalresponders.com/forums/generalforums/politics you will find I am quite active over there and will have little problem deducing my views on Obama. So unless you are claiming that Obama is Jesus Christ returned, his political views are completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. 

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Let me clarify . Can you name me another peasant who became as famous as Jesus during his Era. The context is: There is more evidence for Jesus Christ in history than any other Person living during that era. 

this is not clarification.  this is a rehashing of the same willful ignorance, i.e. stupidity.

people keep pointing out to you there is not a shred of contemporary literary evidence for jesus--even thr gospels and epistles are not contemporary--nor is there a speck of archeological evidence.  we have both kinds of contemporary evidence for most of the people we have listed above.  that is the opposite of famous.  jesus, if he existed, was not famous at all, unless you conflate the definition of famous to include "completely unknown."

you continue to ignore people's responses and repeat the same questions or ask totally new and irrelevant ones.

any discussion with you is irrational by definition.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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Let me clarify . Can you name me another peasant who became as famous as Jesus during his Era.

Define "as famous in his era" because jesus wasn't that famous, he didn't become "famous" till well after his death. So during his era anyone that was more known is more famous than jesus.

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The context is: There is more evidence for Jesus Christ in history than any other Person living during that era. I have a specific question to you. Do you believe president Obama is a socialist ?

No there is zero evidence outside of the bible which is the problem you completely ignore, much like your cicero comment, it is very ignorant, actually more like extremely uneducated and ignorant. However you will ignore all statements to the contrary.


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Jimenezj wrote:

I have a specific question to you. Do you believe president Obama is a socialist ?

What does that have to do with Jesus Christ? If you want to talk politics we have a political forum here. 

http://www.rationalresponders.com/forums/generalforums/politics you will find I am quite active over there and will have little problem deducing my views on Obama. So unless you are claiming that Obama is Jesus Christ returned, his political views are completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. 

LMAO

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Jimenezj wrote:"Cicero wrote

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"Cicero wrote letters" So did Paul and other Apostles. There is more evidence for Jesus Christ in history than any other Person living during that era. Not bad for a peasant carpenter. Can you name me another peasant who became as famous as Jesus?

Which proves Cicero existed, jesus never did, no evidence to prove jesus existed, second Paul never met jesus knew only of him from others not from direct knowledge. The other Apostles did not actually write the gospels they are attributed to. However you fail to see that problem, not really shocking that you are avoiding reality.


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If you want to comment on Jesus existence , read my other topic under

Ehrman says: "Yes, the historical Jesus of Nazareth did exist .

This topic is about the history Chanel and the bible, which I actualy like for a mini series . I like the scene were the two angels go martial art in Sodom . The high definition graphics is also exelent .

appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence for a no God. 


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Jimenezj wrote:If you want

Jimenezj wrote:
If you want to comment on Jesus existence , read my other topic under Ehrman says: "Yes, the historical Jesus of Nazareth did exist . This topic is about the history Chanel and the bible, which I actualy like for a mini series . I like the scene were the two angels go martial art in Sodom . The high definition graphics is also exelent .

No I am commenting on your comments made here, as such no there is no evidence for the jesus in the bible, still waiting for you to produce this overwhelming evidence.


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Jimenezj wrote:If you want

Jimenezj wrote:
If you want to comment on Jesus existence , read my other topic under Ehrman says: "Yes, the historical Jesus of Nazareth did exist . This topic is about the history Chanel and the bible, which I actualy like for a mini series . I like the scene were the two angels go martial art in Sodom . The high definition graphics is also exelent .

LOL  ohhhh wow, the guy who randomly asked ON THIS VERY THREAD if we thought obama was a socialist is trying to keep everybody on-topic!

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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