You go first, how long will this continue.
Once again the fighting has started up again in Palistine. You get pee shooter rockets, accusations that Hammas is using the population as human sheilds. You get Isreal over reacting. And death and continued fighting on both sides. When is the nation crap and religious crap and politics going to stop?
Every decade since I was born in 66 this has been an issue. I am so sick of this shit and neither side is getting anywhere. Palistine has to give up on it's theocratic politics, and self police and get the violent people out of it's population. Isrial needs to give up on it's invasions and settlements.
It sickens me that people don't get tired of war and violence. How many humans on either side have to die before it becomes clear that it is futile? Neither side is gong anywhere. Humans are involved on both sides.
There was a time when someone could make a case that they were on the right side of history. But I do not see that. All I see is both sides playing victime lo9oking for excuses for more violence. I wish the international community would step in and settle this with peace keeping forces. Palistinians should not live in a prison, their every day civiliians should not be starved to death. But at the same time they also should not be held hostage by those in power.
Isreal needs to give up on a Jewish state and simply be a westerinized secular state. Palistinians need to purge their rulers of the theocrats and zealots. All labels aside flesh is flesh and death is death and this has been going on for far too long and has affected the entire global community for fart too long.
I am tired of the excuses. Both sides are baging their heads against the wall and getting nowhere simply pissing the other side off more. Is a boarder or a tradition or label so important as to fail to realize that in the end when someone dies on either side, you are STILL killing another human being.
We are mpt ;;ovomg om any nobal age of conquest anymore. The world is round, not flat. What you do Palistinians to Isreal has an affect on the world. What you do Isreal to Palistinians has an affect on the world. The selfishness and war sickens me because it seems to be nothing more than a cry for attention trying to get the rest of the world to side with one side.
PLEASE FUCKING STOP! You are just two groups of people on a populated planet of 7 billion. Please tell me what right either of you have to turn our planet into your childish game of capture the flag. It is my hope that the international commun9ity instead of chosing sides, SHAMES both sides int o cooperations.
There has been no end to this shit and I am beyond caring at this point as an outsider who has no horse in the race. This all stems from evolution and nothing more. We side as humans with that which we are familure with and defend it from outside threats. The problem is that there is an utter failure of the WORLD, not just both sides, BUT THE WORLD, to put enough pressure on both sides.
ENOUGH! What right does either side after all this and no end in sight have to cry "poor me". Reea;;y? You'd both take a scorched earth policy and drag the region and possibly the entire world int a war over what?
There should be no two state solution. I am at the point where I think both of you need to have your asses kicked, your leaders arrested and repl,aced with sane secular leaders.
Regardless of which side I lean to, I am not going to take sides when clearly both sides are ussing the same stupid tactics that simply perpetuate this needless conflict.
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The truth has you in a corner. You suppress the truth in your unrighteousness. Truth is not found by intellect but by the word of God.
As you correctly pointed out in the case of people who ignore the intellect of doctors in favor of trying to pray their disease away; that's insanity!
Frankly sir I could care less what you think about me. Atheists with a low opinion of Christians who think their smarter than Christians is nothing new.
Oh, I don't hold a low opinion of all christians, there are many christians I hold in high regard even if I find their god belief silly. And if you manage to come up with some decent argument my opinion of you is open to change.
There is not an objective right or wrong in regards to morality? Really?
Really. Morality is as subjective as beauty.
There is not an objective right or wrong in regards to morality? Really?
Re :: For now we see in a mirror, dimly,. . Now I know in part . .Lee2216 wrote:Atheistextremist wrote:you need to define sin, show us how such justice functions objectively, and define god. So far, I still don't know what you are talking about. What is a god?
Sin is anything that is contrary to the law or will of God. God is the supreme being of the universe.
Lee2216. I wish to thank you for two things . . .
a) Being kind and courageous enough to stick around to defend your views (instead of the normal turning tail and running).
b) Not high tailing it out of here (an idiom), when many in similar situations (abruptly) storm off and and are never heard from.Lee2216 wrote:Beyond Saving wrote:I don't think I have any business telling people what is wrong.
I believe we should stone people to death who commit adultery.
Beyond replies, Does it make you feel tough to stone women? You are pathetic.
Lookie Lee. Unintentionally ran into the words of one of the more nortoriously unscrupulous charlatans, televangelist while on the Internet. This guy is reportedly in a class of his own when it comes to deceptive scoundrels. In preaching, according to internet sources, has been quoted as saying:
“God’s reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself. I mean a reproduction of Himself, and in the Garden of Eden He did just that. He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God even. Adam is as much like God as you could get, just the same as Jesus. Adam, in the Garden of Eden, was God manifested in the flesh.” .. "Any christian could have died on the cross as a sin offering"
Whatever the type of christian you claim to be. I am sure you'd want to go run to the scriptures to correct this guy. What is interesting is he thinks this reflects what is in the NT. Problem? You wouldnt be agreeing with this joker, let's assume. How is money bags ignoring/ non-response, given people's capacity for self-deception, fundamentally different from certain people who apparently are willfully willing to ignore the words from the Gospel of John, for example? Let's be honest, You quote entire passages from Romans but wish to forget about the words found in the Gospels? Not to be too harsh but I'd think it was an aid and assistance for any type of christian to at least be internally consistent. Again, Hate to say it but it's really hard to run from direct quotes. And in this instance you werent quoting someone else either Lee. Ouch! We never did get an answer. What kind of a christian did you say you were ?
Ironically, You have an Atheist board member pointing to where (apparently) you're not lining up with the Gospel message anymore than money bags ever was. Though I am not sure in this instance, and it might be nothing more than washing your hands of the matter. You get corrected using the very words from the Bible itself. All the-while , Are you choosing to ignore passages just like money bags continues to do ? Honestly seems that way. Though I could be wrong. And, 'why' pray tell /? You should be appreciative and apologetic all at the same time.
No I don't agree with this preacher whoever he is. He is a false teacher. Because I haven't used some of the words of the gospel of John doesn't mean I purposefully ignored them. I would sure love to see where I was not lining up with the gospels. Point it out if I have.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Romans 1:20