i keep hearing about a conservative movement thats trying to integrate faith in politics

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i keep hearing about a conservative movement thats trying to integrate faith in politics

maybe someone can answer a question i have... ive been reading about this supposid conservative movement that has been building for like 40 years or something? supposidly they are trying to amend govt policy to fit religion or something... how true is that? i mean i have seen evidence of it in GA, MS. with the abortion laws and prosecution for miscarriages if the mother was found to not have properly cared for the fetus.. im just wondering how serious is the religous threat in this country if there is one besides the fanatical religous nuts out there..... i need some info on this please.


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LOL...it's called the

LOL...it's called the republican party and it's best that we all stay away from it!

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LOL

LOL good point


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 And the idiots continue to

 And the idiots continue to support the two party system long after virtually everyone can agree it fucked up the country..... talk about irrational.

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Beyond Saving wrote: And

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 And the idiots continue to support the two party system long after virtually everyone can agree it fucked up the country..... talk about irrational.

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yea i dont trust either party far as i could throw em.. it just seems to me that both parties are greedy,  what was it lewis black said once  "the democratic party is one of NO ideas, and the republican party is full of bad ideas, the way it works in congress is a republican will stand up and say "ive got a really bad idea" and a democrat will go "yea, well i can make it shittier"              
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hbmbc30 wrote:yea i dont

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yea i dont trust either party far as i could throw em.. it just seems to me that both parties are greedy,  what was it lewis black said once  "the democratic party is one of NO ideas, and the republican party is full of bad ideas, the way it works in congress is a republican will stand up and say "ive got a really bad idea" and a democrat will go "yea, well i can make it shittier"              
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True enough, that is why I push for everyone to vote third party. I don't care if it is Green, Socialist, Communist, Libertarian, Constitution wherever your personal beliefs lie. If everyone continues to vote for "the lesser of two evils" which is what virtually everyone at the voting booth claims they are doing, the only possible result is evil. I would love if either of the two major parties came in third, it would show that voters are using their brains rather than simply towing the party line. Voting third party isn't throwing away your vote, it is protesting.

And seriously, do you think there would be any substantial difference between a Romney and Obama administration? Both will continue the Patriot Act, both will keep the current healthcare law, both will give loads of government money to corporate buddies the only difference being the exact name of the corporate buddies, both will continue to pursue pointless wars overseas, both will run huge deficits, both will ignore the social security problem, and neither one will work to repeal any of the stupid laws we have. There will be a few differences, Romney might cut taxes, Obama would probably spend a little more on pointless government programs but really the differences in their policies would simply be the transient ones. For the long term crucial decisions our country is making, both are pretty much on the same side. Both are supporters of a big, strong federal government and using government to solve all our problems.

 

 

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OK, here is one of the more

OK, here is one of the more terrifying examples, Rick Perry, by courtesy of Aron Ra. If you want to know more about this governor of Texas, here's 10 things about him. Now behold, Prick Error:

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thats funny

dude i like the video i watch aaron ra myself its funny

 


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thats funny

dude i like the video i watch aaron ra myself its funny

 


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 @OPI don't think there is

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I don't think there is so much religion trying to integrate faith into politics so much as they are trying to maintain the integration. Historically, religion has played a very powerful role in both parties. In modern times the democratic party has separated from its religious affiliations more quickly than the republican side of the spectrum probably mostly due to it embracing the gay rights and pro-abortion movements which pretty much keeps out most of the radical religions. A good example is blue laws which were pushed in many areas by religious fundamentalists. Some still exist today, especially the ones regarding alcohol, but they are slowly being repealed and as far as I know no blue laws have been passed in decades. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_law This indicates to me that religion is losing its grip on politics.

Other examples of religious oriented laws are putting "in god we trust" on all of our paper money in 1957. Ironically, Theodore Roosevelt opposed putting the phrase on coins because he believed it was sacrilege. 

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9406E2D8103EE033A25757C1A9679D946697D6CF

 

The prohibition movement which led to the banning of alcohol sales was religiously motivated. And there are many "sin" taxes that were religiously motivated although the new trend is for such taxes to be supposedly motivated by a desire to improve general health. Religious groups routinely oppose plans to open strip clubs, adult stores, bars or casinos in certain areas. Although in recent years I believe they have been losing influence in these areas as well. 

 

I used to be heavily involved in the Republican Party and still travel in those social circles a little bit- one of the biggest complaints I heard about the tea party came from republicans complaining that the tea party members didn't care enough about the "social" (religious) issues. They saw the tea party as a threat every bit as much as my democrat friends. So there are certainly plenty of republicans that push for their religious morality to be enforced as law. Simply look at the massive movement against gay marriage and how riled up those crazies get. However, I believe the movement is shrinking and losing power. The very fact that we are discussing gay marriage today would have been unimaginable 30-40 years ago. Certainly it is stronger in rural bible belt type areas than urban areas.

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ok

well i was wondering about that, i just keep hearing about conservatives trying to push shit on us... i read this morning the UN is tryng to ban guns or some shit.. but anyways i can sorta see waht your saying as i recall i DID read somebodies blog that suggests that religion is slowly losing influence and grip on things cause people are waking up and realizing its a bunch of shit i think... but what i cant figure out is when the republicans are accusing obama of wiping his ass with the constitution what does it say when folks try to amend the govt to fit religious faith? that goes COMPLETLEY against the constitution and violates the seperation of church and state.. i think religion should stay out of politics and public schools... but unfortunatley theres still a shitload of crazies out there... i know not all churches and religious folks are nuts but enough of them are especially in the area i live in...

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