Noted Mathematician Refutes Infinity, Citing Craig

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Noted Mathematician Refutes Infinity, Citing Craig

 Here you go:

notedscholar wrote:
I don’t think I need to spend much time on infinity. Infinitus est numerus stultorum. It suffices to point out that you cannot show me infinity of anything whatsoever. Since everything is finite, including every number, putting them all together will still not get you to infinity. According to math (and also its feisty sidekick, the English language), the number before infinity would be known as the “penultimate” in the series of all numbers. So in my opinion, the last number in the number line is the penultimate.

There is also a convenient common sense method for refuting infinity. If there were infinite numbers, then the Universe couldn’t fit them all in. But clearly the Universe does fit them all in, by the transitive property. It fits our brains, and our brains fit all the numbers. Please see William Lane Craig on this point, for further discussion.

http://sciencedefeated.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/infinity-part-one/

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Funny, considering science

Funny, considering science just proved the existence of infinity.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120417080352.htm

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 Funny indeed, considering

 Funny indeed, considering infinity doesn't exist.

Negative numbers got the axe too. Here's the new number line.

numberline2

http://sciencedefeated.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/negative-numbers/

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If infinity doesn't exist,

If infinity doesn't exist, what's the largest finite number? 


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 P.

 P.


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Presuppositionalist

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 Funny indeed, considering infinity doesn't exist.

Negative numbers got the axe too. Here's the new number line.

numberline2

http://sciencedefeated.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/negative-numbers/

Extremely funny, considering infinity does exist.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120417080352.htm

I'd be willing to believe a mathematician over you, or the average joe. But a team of mathematicians trumps one mathematician. Especially when they're actually being published in a peer reviewed journal.

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 P.

 

Then what's P+1?

 

 


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Chop chop

Presuppositionalist wrote:

 

Negative numbers got the axe too. Here's the new number line.

numberline2

 

 

Fractions and 1 get the chop too.

This is going to make maths really tricky.


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Presuppositionalist

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 Funny indeed, considering infinity doesn't exist.

Negative numbers got the axe too. Here's the new number line.

numberline2

http://sciencedefeated.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/negative-numbers/

 

Yes, o' Lord that abolish math and science, I beg of you to put the number 1 in thine number line, for without it I am but nothing lest I be 2. 

rubbish

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Someone's being an idiot,

Someone's being an idiot, again. Note to the unwise and undecided: Craig is NOT a valid cite. He is a commentator.

That is all.

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Cpt_pineapple wrote:

Presuppositionalist wrote:

 P.

 

Then what's P+1?

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! good one!

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I'm speechless at the stupidity of this claim... oh wait... William Craig Lane is the source for this?

Ah, that explains why some one is trying to fill actual physical space with numbers.

 

 

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Negative numbers are the

Negative numbers are the additive inverses of positive numbers.  Their existence is necessary if you want your numbers to function as a group under addition.  If we didn't have them, scientists the world over would be forced to do silly things like multiply by "zero minus one" all over the place, and would probably end up re-inventing the negative numbers just for sheer convenience.  Also, any attempt at describing translational invariance, which is one of the symmetries underpinning the theory of relativity, would be incredibly obtuse without the aid of negative numbers.  The same goes with the particle number operator in QFT.

 

Infinities and negative numbers are used all over the place in physics.  That's enough reason to keep them around.

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 Presup, I always liked

 Presup, 

I always liked the way you trot out ancient history like it's meaningful.

Oh, and someone calling himself a "notedscholar" doesn't mean he is one.

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Cpt_pineapple wrote:

Presuppositionalist wrote:

 P.

 

Then what's P+1?

 

 

Ever try to divide by 0? P + 1 is like that. The universe explodes when you try. Clearly this is the case.

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Tapey wrote:Cpt_pineapple

Tapey wrote:

Cpt_pineapple wrote:

Presuppositionalist wrote:

 P.

 

Then what's P+1?

 

 

Ever try to divide by 0? P + 1 is like that. The universe explodes when you try. Clearly this is the case.

 

Then what's (P+1)/0?

 

O.O

 

 


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Cpt_pineapple wrote:Tapey

Cpt_pineapple wrote:

Tapey wrote:

Cpt_pineapple wrote:

Presuppositionalist wrote:

 P.

 

Then what's P+1?

 

 

Ever try to divide by 0? P + 1 is like that. The universe explodes when you try. Clearly this is the case.

 

Then what's (P+1)/0?

 

O.O

A new time line where humans ride dinosaurs and shoot lasers at each other. We really got screwed by the math of our universe.

 

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Tapey wrote:Cpt_pineapple

Tapey wrote:

Cpt_pineapple wrote:

Tapey wrote:

Cpt_pineapple wrote:

Presuppositionalist wrote:

 P.

 

Then what's P+1?

 

 

Ever try to divide by 0? P + 1 is like that. The universe explodes when you try. Clearly this is the case.

 

Then what's (P+1)/0?

 

O.O

A new time line where humans ride dinosaurs and shoot lasers at each other. We really got screwed by the math of our universe.

 

Since I owned dino riders as a kid... I like it

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Nostalgia moment. > >

Nostalgia moment. > >

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Vastet wrote:Nostalgia

Vastet wrote:
Nostalgia moment. > >

Glad I am not the only one who loved that as a kid.


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Tapey wrote:A new time line

Tapey wrote:

A new time line where humans ride dinosaurs and shoot lasers at each other. We really got screwed by the math of our universe.

 

 

LMAO!!!! I love it! I want one!

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