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Out out brief Candle, By Brian37

QUOTE WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE MACBETH:"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Here is my spin on that wonderful and profound line:



Out, Out brief candle, By Brian37

To-deities, and to-gods, and to-God

Creeps in this petty tyrant from day to day

Until the extinction of humanity new ones will be invented

And all our yestergods have been created by fools

The way to tribal death. Out out brief myth

Claims are but a walking shadow, a poor reflection

That struts our narcissism upon the stage

And then is heard no more. It is a tale

Told by the credulous, full of sound and fury

Signifying nothing.

 (END)

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Quote: But "blaspheme"

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But "blaspheme" obviously carries no religious significance.   Excellent.

 

Of course "blasphemy" has religious significance to them, not to us. Where did I claim "blasphemy" had no religious significance?

 

Just like the word "sin" does, but in reality it would be like saying "it is a sin to call Thor an asshole".

We are hurting their egos, not a real god. It is not a crime to have your ego bruised. It is a crime to get violent and oppress others because they pick on your god/religion.

 

Both words are actually meaningless but since they use them we respond using their words.

 

Brian's "Blasphemy Challenge" was to demonstrate the absurdity of idea that you can actually hurt a fictional being. Both "sin" and "blasphemy" are childish words rooted in superstition.

 

 

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Brian37 wrote:....Have you

Brian37 wrote:

....Have you become my stalker?

 

 

 

 

 

 

                  Give up your obsession with BeyondSaving,  then we'll talk.   Otherwise stfu.


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ProzacDeathWish

ProzacDeathWish wrote:

Brian37 wrote:

....Have you become my stalker?

 

 

 

 

 

 

                  Give up your obsession with BeyondSaving,  then we'll talk.   Otherwise stfu.

 

My "obsession" is not with him the person, but his claims on the issue of economics. If anyone else was making the same arguments for Ayn Rand crap, I'd take issue with them too. He's not the only one who thinks that way. He just happens to be the one I deal with the most at this website. I am currently having it out with someone else on another board who also scapegoats the poor.

 

Outside that issue I think he can be quite reasonable and I do think he has a good sense of humor. I also think he has a thicker skin than most atheists and theists. I don't think he needs you to defend him, he doesn't have a glass jaw.

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Brian37 wrote: My

Brian37 wrote:

 

My "obsession" is not with him the person, but his claims on the issue of economics. If anyone else was making the same arguments for Ayn Rand crap, I'd take issue with them too. He's not the only one who thinks that way. He just happens to be the one I deal with the most at this website.

 

         Oh it just looks like you're stalking Beyond...but you're not really stalking.  I see. LOL !  

 

 

Beian37 wrote:
I don't think he needs you to defend him, he doesn't have a glass jaw.

 

            Brian if I were you I would worry more about defending yourself from Beyond .    He tears you a new ass hole every time you cross paths....

 


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ProzacDeathWish

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Brian37 wrote:

 

My "obsession" is not with him the person, but his claims on the issue of economics. If anyone else was making the same arguments for Ayn Rand crap, I'd take issue with them too. He's not the only one who thinks that way. He just happens to be the one I deal with the most at this website.

 

         Oh it just looks like you're stalking Beyond...but you're not really stalking.  I see. LOL !  

 

 

Beian37 wrote:
I don't think he needs you to defend him, he doesn't have a glass jaw.

 

 

 

 

            Brian if I were you I would worry more about defending yourself from Beyond .    He tears you a new ass hole every time you cross paths....

 

Which is why he ignores rich people and PHD economists who would agree with me. Never said anyone had to take my word for it.

Economics isn't as simple as balancing a checkbook and demanding labor compete for the lowest wages. If he wants that kind of caste system he should try being poor in India.

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No One Gets A Pass, By

No One Gets A Pass, By Brian37 (Ode to Victor Stenger and his book "The New Atheism" ) Anything in ".." in this poem are quotes from that book.

 

In recent months

Endured I have

Arrows and slings

With good intent

 

Get along

With believers

Don't upset them

At any risk

 

Take not my word

By itself if you wish

Head those of Stenger

I must insist

 

"Faith is always foolish"

Victor takes a stand

Skeptical of Buddhism and Hinduism

Not just Abraham

 

He clearly demonstrates

Morals are universal

Not the product of

Anything super natural

 

A fatal distraction

Led by "selfish interest"

"Leads to many of the evils

Of society"

 

"Promise of eternal life...

Pursuing egocentric desires"

I would classify as

The putrid rigor of false hope

 

The dormant vocano

Did once make land

Enrich the soil

Where gardens grow

 

But to ignore reality

Behind human psychology

As to why fantasies

Persist

 

Would be to ignore

The rumbling mountain

Because of the pretty flowers

That reside on it's slopes

 

Motifs of compassion

Exist in all

Combating cruelty

A patent owned by none

 

A mere product

Victor wisely proclaims

To be a "continuing process

Of human development "

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Christianity Unveiled (Ode

Christianity Unveiled (Ode to the father of modern atheism), By Brian37

 

Epicurus

And Lucretius

Skeptical

Long ago

 

The dark night

The cloak of theism

For  centuries

Buried inquiry

 

Deism arose

In response

To human cruelty

As a compromise to allow for a god

 

But amongst these enlightened ones

A refusal to do so

Gave birth

To modern atheism

 

Authorities as expected

Upon his public denial

The frightened ones

Ceased his books upon publishing

 

10 years elapse

After his death

Books with pseudonyms

Publicly burned

 

Paul Heinrich Dietrich

Took blasphemy

Further than anyone

Dared to go

 

"If the ignorance of nature

Gave birth to such a variety of gods,

The knowledge of this nature

Is calculated to destroy them"

 

*The bluntness of his quill

Put men in their infancy of thought

Which they were infatuated with

Viewing them as enslaved fanatics*

 

Their vanity

Based on concoctions

The needless distraction

Of mere superstition

(end)

 

Second to last  stanza is a paraphrase of this quote "It is thus superstition infatuates man from his infancy, fills him with vanity, and enslaves him with fanaticism."

Quotes sourced from this link.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Baron_d%27Holbach#Sourced

 

Books quoted and paraphrased are

"Le Christianisme devoile(Christianity Unveiled)

"The System of Nature"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hide And Go Seek, By

Hide And Go Seek, By Brian37

An insidious game
Of Peekaboo
The child counts
And looks through rooms

Elaborate prose
In ancient books
All do claim
He is somewhere

They look and look
And insist
He is real
And point to their books

They count to ten
Then to 100
Then to 1,000
And where is he

The empty mansion
Of fictional rooms
He hides somewhere
Through limitless excuse

I refuse with vigor
To play this game
There is nothing to find
No one is up there

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Central Processing Unit, By

Central Processing Unit, By Brian37

 

4 days prior

My black and white tower

Called it quits

On me

 

Eulogies

I had bestowed

On these PCs

Before

 

Dependent on others

Of those to restore

But this time

I went for broke

 

No more

I said to myself

Would I depend on others

To make Jesus rise from the dead

 

Knowing bits and pieces

Of the hardware

I figured out

The power supply

 

Was the culprit

So I Frankensteined

The dead bolts of old

A defibrillator

 

But still stuck I was

On boot errors

For hours

Had frustrated me

 

But under "safe mode"

Reached the c: prompt

And a list

Of DOS commands

 

Aware of "DIR"

And "LIST"

I remembered

"Format"

 

I had nothing to lose

No working computer

I typed

"Format C colon"

 

BAM!

I waited patiently

After hours

Of utter frustration

 

It took

Then I inserted

The Windows disk

And it took as well

 

It rose from the dead

But with minor complications

It failed to recognize

The integrated audio

 

Having tried and failed

To resurrect the DLL drivers

I resorted to

An expansion slot

 

BOOM

The tower is alive

Save one more day

Than a zombie god

(end)

 

"black and white" refers to the Gateway tower.

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Of Rubber Duckies, By

Of Rubber Duckies, By Brian37

 

Being mid in years

What brings me cheer

Is the youthful nature

That has grown in my mother

 

Serious she wanted

Me to be

Dress a certain way

And never be silly

 

Now in her twighlight

That has waned

She finally accepts me

For who I am

 

When I burp

Instead I quip

"I made it myself"

Which now she laughs

 

And in this home

I now dwell

Infested with ducks

Our running joke

 

One with a bra

One is an elf

I proudly display

On my bookshelf

 

Two on the dash

Of the van I drive

Reminding me of

My mom all the time

 

Closer than ever

Now are we

Because of my mom

And rubber duckies.

 

 

 

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In Greed You Trust, By

In Greed You Trust, By Brian37

 

Those who have

Think they have

Those with power

Step on the lower

 

Thus in ego

They devour

Of the lower

Because of power

 

Because they can

They will do

Without regards

On those they trample

 

They create division

Among the lower

So in order

To keep their power

 

My prior owners

Had such ethics

To value us

While holding power

 

But with regret

They sold to you

Their family run business

You want to xerox

 

The world needs not

More corporate goons

Out for profits

On cheap labor

 

You are the problem

You know you are

But do not care

Whom you trample

 

I did the work

Others would not do

Nor want of raise

Did I ask of you

 

I did more

Than my share

You took from me

Because you could

 

You wont lose sleep

You'll justify

Why you fired me

With blatant lies

 

This was not

About the book

Nor about

My hard work

 

From day one

When you took over

You said the following

I'll never forget

 

"Nothing" you said

"Is gong to change"

But followed it up with

"I want several of these"

 

I knew right then

You were full of shit

I knew right then

We were in trouble

 

I saw the dollar signs

In your eyes

Your greedy mentality

And selfishness

 

You live in a bubble

I feel sorry for you

I hope some day

You'll undersand

 

Understand

"It is what it is"

Understand

What is really important

 

It's not two houses

Or expensive car

It's not your traveling

Or par 4

 

I wont get paid

A dime for these prose

But some one like me

Will read it and agree

 

And in turn

It will give to more

The power to stand up

To the likes of you

 

We make you rich

And of that you forget

Out for yourself

And nothing more.

 

You got what you wanted

Finally

Sleep well tonight

In greed you trust

 

 

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Assorted Nonsense, By

Assorted Nonsense, By Brian37

 

The vapid concoctions

Of infantile fantasy

Are the delusions of rabbits

Pulled out of top hats

 

Rings that blend

Magicians wands that bend

Producing flowers

And coins at ears end

 

Of drunken state

History has made

Holy books

With fantastic claims

 

Of mere wish

Lacking all fact

Relying on fear

Of shackles and chains

 

In sports jackets

With buckles in back

We'd right fully place

The claims insane

 

Talk to a dog

Who tells you to murder

Convince lots of others

A comet will save you

 

Yet of mortar and brick

And ancient script

The poison they drink

And worship it

 

With limbs they pay

And hollow screams

Zealously insisting

On fictional dreams

 

There is no top hat

No rabbit to pull

Just assorted nonsense

Bought by the fool

 

 

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Windows 3.No, By Brian37 It

Windows 3.No, By Brian37

It started out
In the land of Canaan
The splinter sect
Of Hebrews gave us

The "Chosen people"
That divides us
Created another
Needless savior

Again not satisfied
Spawned another
Giving us Islam
With all it's horrors

The software wholely
Ancient Malware
Thrice this god
Becomes our spyware

The virus infects
Our grey computers
Filling humanity
With destructive utopias

There is no heat sink
On superstition
No firewall
To prevent it from spreading

Mohamed and Yahweh
And that of Jesus...
Are the abacus
With beads missing

We protect our Gateways
Our Dells too
We protect our Apples
From assault

Yet of antiquity
Most are gamers
In ancient Warcraft
Lost in fantasy

It's time to destroy
This deadly software
With the anti virus
Of logic and reason

 

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"The New Atheist" By

"The New Atheist" By Brian37

 

It is not militant

To state a fact

It is not militant

To demand evidence

 

If my blasphemy

Is of offense

Then then maybe you

Need to re asses

 

Metal birds

Were accosted

Based apon

Allah's word

 

Iron maidens

And stretching racks

Were the fate

Of those confessed

 

Salem Mass

Burn the witches

Quote a book

To justify it

 

It is not militant

Under the evergreen

In which your seasonal bounty

Your parents were the source

 

Tie a faggot to a post

Make sure he suffers well

For Laviticus

Condemns them all to hell

 

Make them walk behind you

Never let them drive

To claim I am oppressing you

For blasting such blatant lies

 

It is not militant

To challenge social norms

To call concepts absurd

Based on bad sources

 

No one in reality

If their car wont start

Blames it on fairies or angels

To the mechanic they will go

 

It is not militant

When science you condemn

To point out your hypocrisy

While using what science produces

 

On a jury

Many will sit

Convict a murderer

With DNA evidence

 

Yet of a story

Written long ago

Long before Darwin

And modern microscopes

 

You'll proclaim stupidly

That a girl produced magically

A baby out of wedlock

Without a second set of DNA

 

It is not militant

To call a lie a lie

It is not militant

To face reality

 

It is not militant

To describe in billions of years

The age of our earth

And the universe

 

Demanding of taboos

Are the last resort

Of the desperate

Who wont admit defeat

 

Atheist is not new

It has always been

It is when our brains

Value questioning

 

Do not expect me

In any given way

To bow to superstition

When it deserves no reprieve

 

 

 

 

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Herding Cats, By

Herding Cats, By Brian37

 

"Atheist"

Is the "off" position

It is not a political party

Nor a religion

 

We are right

We are left

We are rich

We are poor

 

Some own guns

Others do not

Some like sports

Some read books

 

We do not worship

Comic book heros

We do not worship

Comic book villains

 

It is not a religion

It would be the same

To claim bald is a hair color

Which to us would be insane

 

We are individuals

Just like cats

Different personalities

And different tastes

 

Don't try to put us

In a box

Don't try to say

What we advocate

 

There is only one thing

We have in common

Lack of belief

In all sky heros

 

By proxy of label

It does not make

Automatically moral

Although our educated would claim

 

That our behavior

As a species

Both good and bad

Is evolutionary

 

Valuing health care

Or livable wages

Does not make atheists

Anti business

 

We can hate

Abuse of power

And the likes

Of Hitler and Stalin

 

From King's advocates

To Bill Gates and Steve Jobs

We cover all classes

And economic views

 

You cannot herd us

On politics

You cannot herd us

Anymore than cats.

 

So of your stereotypes

I would advise

Individuals do treat us

For that would be wise

 

You cannot herd us

On politics

You cannot herd us

Anymore than cats.

 

 

 

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Army Ants, By

Army Ants, By Brian37

 

Prolific breeders

Fierce fighters

Attacking all insects

Deemed outsiders

 

Building colonies

And living bridges

Passing food sources

In Olympic relay

 

Yet that success

Is unaware

Of the monsoons

In dry river bed homes

 

Oh so proud

We stupidly are

Of the anthills

We produce

 

Above evolution

We see ourselves

When our extinction

By our own hand we rush

 

The monsoon of ignorance

Will wash us away

Because the dry riverbed

We have created

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Don't Threaten Me, By Brian37

 

You gave me no consent

In this set up

Then blame me stupidly

For the actions that you took

 

I am not your spouse

Or your girlfiend

If I chose to leave

You will follow me

 

If for the door I run

You'll grab me by my hair

Beat the shit out of me

Because I'd had enough

 

Then you'll say you did it

For my own good

You do it out of love

A complete and utter fraud

 

Is this your divine morality

That I am mere property

My choice is submission

Or burn eternally?

 

You have a twisted sense

Of what love is

The only thing you love

Is spreading this stupid myth

 

How can using threats

Or that of bribery

Be considered moral

Or of maturity

 

I am divorced

In reality

If I did to her

What your god does to us

 

I would be in prison

And of such I would deserve

I find God's morals repugnant

And refuse to call that love

 

Don't you threaten me

For thinking for myself

Don't you threaten me

Tyrant cosmic bully

 

I know you are not real

And that reality I thank

But for the morons who believe

Throw this concept in the trash

 

Love is not selfish

Nor lives under threat

Love is not treating others

Like property or that of pets

 

No I will not submit

Loath myself not I

The concept one must swallow

For your power to stay alive

 

I know too much

Of reality

For such antiquated bullshit

To ever control me

 

Do not threaten me

I am not a toy

I am not trash

For you to throw away

 

If I want to leave

I can and I will

No one owns my brain

I will not drink your swill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Idol To Say, By Brian37

Idol To Say, By Brian37

Insightful words
Not prophecy
Merely a good guess
At the nature of reality

Atheists are capable
Jefferson did say
Of morality
And to claim "as some do"

"That no such thing exists"
He called it "Idol" and rightfully so
Way before Darwin...
Had no way to know

That human morality
Derived not from clergy
But outside these inventions
Our common existence

The Imam and Rabbi
Pastor and Monk
Shaman or Lama.
Have nothing to sell

Invent not morality
Did any of them
Always it's been
Our species has held

 

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I Dare You, By

I Dare You, By Brian37

 

Gutless coward

Don't be half assed

Do all of what

That horrible book says

 

"Abomination" you so claim

Then stone them

You fucker

Obstain from shellfish

 

Man lies with man

Or sticks on the Sabath

Disobiedient child

STONE ALL OF THEM

 

You cant you wont

You have not the guts

For to do all

Of what it says

 

Word for word

Verse for verse

Your god commands you

To murder others

 

I dare you you fucker

To go all the way

To show us your bigotry

And hatred you sell

 

Hypocrites be such

You look to the East

Rightfully condemning

Their barbarity

 

You selfishly claim

Morality

While oppressing others

With joy and glee

 

I dare you fucker

Do what it says

Murder others

Because they dissent

 

Out of context

Is your dodge

Ignoring that zealots

Are more devoute

 

They get it right

Take it to heart

Do what it says

At all costs

 

If you want

To make the claim

That your book

Our laws do come

 

Then you must

Do what it says

And become the monster

That your god is

 

If not the case

Then keep your book

Out of our laws

AND SHUT THE FUCK UP

 

But if you do

Make the attempt

To incorporate religion

Into our laws

 

You give us no choice

To make the fight

Against theocracy

And its ignorance

 

I dare you

You cant you wont

No longer will you

Bully the rest of us

 

 

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Eviscerate, By Brian37...

Gacys outwardly
Seemed ok
Pretty paintings
The frightening clown

He owned a business
He made children laugh
But under the floorboards
Bodies he'd stash

"What is the harm"
"Who does it hurt"
"Dont blaspheme religion"
The PC insist

What is the downside
If my words do shame
"The gangs of Abraham"
Stop their deadly game

The serial killer
Needs arrest
Eviscerate ignorance
At every chance

I will not let
This monster hide
Behind any excuse
Of tradition or pride

If of concern
These prose do cause
Instead of real horrors
In human cost

Adjust you might
Need to do
Your priorities
And where they should be

If all to slumber
Want to reach
Without fear of harm
Then I'd suggest

Suggest to you
Aim not at me
Any scorn
Of my blasphemy

Eviscerate superstition
Do it with scrutiny
Allow
The bitching

Pretty paintings
Pepper those books
Drawing the reader
Into his layer

Allowing them
To become the victim
Victimize others
All for nothing

Gacy is in all us
Our entire history
Of putting fantasy first
Instead of reality

Acid on
A woman's face
If you deem ok
You deserve all scorn

If a Koran
Is defaced
How stupid are you
It can be replaced

If in urine
Christ is placed
Your more concerned
Than that of starvation

What kind of god..
Should be concerned
Of mere name calling
Considering the news

Gacy you monster
You are not one
You are history
For all of ignorance

You must be caught
And detained
You must not be allowed
To have any reign

Do you not care
You evil clown
The body count
You have amassed?

Eviscerate
Every lie
Give it no reprieve
Where ever it hides

In every culture
In every land
No more monsters
Should we have

Pretty words
Only fool
And district us from
The nasty things we do

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Everyone Is Replacable, By Brian37

 

The maffia Don,

Just like a God

With his weight did throw

Me to the curb

 

I am a mere wrench

A colomn in Quick Books

To which ink of red

He will despense with

 

Now that I'm gone

Others remain

Under his threats

They must know their place

 

When will they learn

Most likely never

Humans are not tools

Or disposable ever

 

Rule by fear

Is not compassion

Obey or else

Teaches us nothing

 

But to abuse

And only to use

Our fellow humans

Is no excuse

 

 

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It's All In Your Head, By Brian37

 

Today on Facebook

I saw a cute meme

One of a cat

Looking at a laptop screen

 

The screen saver

Was that of a lioness

Inplying the cat's desire

To be the lioness

 

It is wanting the butterfly

In the inkblot

To be a real butterfly

Even though it is not

 

This is the same

In that of god/s

A mere reflection

Of human's desires

 

The covered olives at Halloween

In darkened room

Told they are  "eyeballs"

You touch them and scream

 

The claims of gods

We have not at birth

Aduts infect kids with them

When they are defensless

 

It is the illusion

Of the lioness

Of the of the butterfly

That doesn't exist

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Anti Venom, By Brian37

 

Out of a book

The comand is made

"Take them up

Don't be afraid"

 

They dance and sing

And speak in tounge

A rattling tail

Slithers along their arms

 

They are not trappers

Called to a house

To remove such danger

From where they dwell

 

They are not biologists

Nor extracting venom

In order to save lives

Of accidental bites

 

They read some words

Then react in horror

When reality bites them

Because of what they needlessly swallowed

 

"Take them up"

With out question

Because it says so

Makes you an idiot

 

The anti venom

The only cure

Is to take that book

For what it really is

 

Nothing to value

Or hold to be true

The baby's rattle

Is the poison in you

 

Your childish faith

That makes you blind

You take stupid risks

Because of this

 

The toxin is you

In your bad logic

To do insane things

Over a stupid verse

 

It degrades your reason

Decaying your brain

Paralizes your ability

To avoid such things

 

The babby's rattle

Diomond delusions

Backed up by religon's

Fangs of illusions

 

You are the serpant

Biting yourself

In love with the venom

Manufactured by ignorance.

 

 

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555-3268, By Brian37

 

Chasing the bus

He scurries

Down the stairs

To give her the music box

 

He taught her about

Trafic lights

Crossing the street

To find her way

 

Salina learned

Of rotery phones

Desperately wanting

To escape her home

 

Gordan met her

In the park

Where she strung beads

Under the tree

 

The park her respite

To escape the abuse

Rose-Ann her mother

Made her desperate

 

The constant fights

In the apartment of squalar

Ole Pa on the bottle

Nothing to look forward to

 

But Gordon new better

Than that evil wench

Saved her from the rain

The blind girl was caught in

 

He spoke of brail

And of going to school

Something he knew

She could really do

 

The music box

Spoke of love

And was why

He put her on the bus

(The END)

 

This is my second poem about the movie "A Patch of Blue". It has to be one of my favorite movies of all time. Yes it was about race relationships. But I really identify with the blind girl beyond that issue. As a kid I wanted to escape the bullies and bigotry I grew up with. And although I know my parents love me, they were authoritarians whom had a hard time with a boy being sensitive. I identify with her becuase deep inside her character was a girl who simply wanted to be happy and it seemed that the world wanted to suck the happiness out of her. It wasn't until I became an adult that I learned that other people's baggage didn't have to be mine. Today was the second time I saw this movie, and I am quite sure every time I watch it, it will make me cry. (FYI, the phone number in the title(I hope I wrote it down right) is the number she learns to dial in the phone booth.

 

If you have not seen that movie, it is a must see!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Arbor Day, By Brian37

First name Ann
In the mitten state
The Arbor tree
Grew up with hate

Shouts of "nigger"
And "white power"
One of the bigots
Lost his way

He found himself
Outside his ranks
Surrounded by
Those he hated

The angrey mob
Punched and kicked
His face, his back
To the ground he went

Emotions high
Understandably so
But one black lady
Understood

Keshia stepped in
To cover the bigot
In fetal position
Outumbered and surrounded

Why protect
Such vile people
Why not let them
Beat him up

The cowaring coward
Was outnumbered
And her compassion
Was better than he'd give

She dispised his hate
But also knew
In the face of bigotry
The mob should not rule

To do to him
Would be no better
Than white mobs
Would do to her

Some time later
His son found her
And thank her for
Protecting his father

Compassion rests
Not in being free
Of hatefull words
Or vile decree

Compassion rests
In all of us
To do the right thing
Even when offended

To be vigilantes
Is nothing to aspire
Humanity's lesson
Is Keshia's desire

(end)

A picture posted on Facebook based on a real news story that took place in the 90s inspired this poem. It was about a black woman protecting a KKK member who had seperated from the protest area who was suddenly surrounded by those he hated. There would have been a time when I was younger where I might have joined in in beating that bigot up. Keshia Thomas covered the guy who ended up in the fetal position surrounded by those atempting to beat him.

She is an inspiration to humanity. It isn't compassion to silence people that hate you. It is compassion to treat them better than they would treat you.

This was real life. But prior to this way back in the 70s this act of compassion was the script for an episode of The Jeffersons. George found out that white bigots were going to hold a rally at a hotel. He showed up just to witness it so they would have to say it to his face. The head speaker of the rally in the middle of his hate filled speech suffered a heart attack. George knew CPR and preformed it on the bigot. The guy survived and still said "I wish you had let me die". But that display of compassion, even though lost on the bigot, showed the audience how wrong they were, and even the son in the episode ended up realizing how wrong his bigoted father was.

 

 






 

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If You Build It, By Brian37

On top is perched
A symbol of torture
Inscribed long after
"Jesus is Conquerer"

Caligula tyrannus
Stole the Obelisk
Brought it to Rome
Resides in the square

The inscription
 Is not what they claim
It is nothing more
Than the childish game

Who is up first
You dangle the bat
Hand over hand
Untill one reaches the top

The shaft of Baal
Atop it sits
"Love over evil"
Is not what it means

Why the same lexicon
Of absoltute power
Discriptions of Kings
Which the church had defeated?

You did not
Fix anything
Merely shift power
To a new ignorance

He was no Pharaoh
Or living God
Anymore
Than Jesus is

No autruism
Or peace to be had
Just hand over hand
Is all it was

Tranny
Never left
It was simply
A power shift





 

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Neil Before Me, By Brian37

The vacuous mind rot
Scourge of most media
Shows of "reality"
Reflecting no such thing

A beacon of reason
Revived once more
Sagan once hosted
Now on Sundays again

Neil before me
Enlightening humanity
Fear has no respite
When faced with reality

Comets worldwide
Most humans feared
Neil before me
Said it was needless

That when we question
When we observe
Real predictions
Can we rightfully glean

Neil before me
With real tools
Observation and testing
Control groups and peer review

On an Empire street
In the Apple they met
Sagan before him
Was the path that led

Seth the producer
Saw the value
Neil to reality
The Cosmos we value

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If I Had My Way By Brian37,

Entropy confirms
Energy transfer
Will never
Lead to such

To think of whims
In terms of utopias
To thus of boarders
Are absurd nonsense

Our conflict resides
In all of us
Stupidly thinking
It all matters

Time frame lost
To a universe
That will continue
Without any of us

If I had my way
I'd been not rejected
By my high school pine
Who had no interest

If you had your way
I would submit
Conform to you
And by way of force

If I had my way
There would be no death
No pain or suffering
Or any conflict

No old age
No wars or crime
No disease
Or suffering

"If I had my way"
We'd all say
Our narcissism
It only conveys

One of the same
We've always been
That after resources
Is all it is.

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I Don't Want, By Brian37....

I don't want
To hear
How good
Your day has been

I don't want
To hear
About
Mundane things

Not when you
Talk of such
Living in a bubble
Ignoring others

It's not your fancy
Or or good fortune
But your ignorance
When others suffer

In fancy car
You boast about
While others scramble
For loafs of bread

I don't want
To listen to
How big your mansion is
While others scrounge

Yes you made it
And did so big
And what do you offer
Other than bragging rights

To sit on crystal
Or throne of gold
To offer diamonds
None can ingest

Is a monument
Built to self
Not for improvement
For those with less

It is the mirror
The jaded do gaze
Upon themselves
They masturbate

I don't want
To hear a thing
About your achievements
That do nothing

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Play Nice, By Brian37............

Some say
When faced
With vitriol
"Play nice"

It would be nice
In every case
To respond
With "play nice"

Unfortunately
In reality
You cant respond
In every case

Even without
Blasphemy....
"That is not true"
Will solicit hate

Nigerian girls
Abducted
You think you can
Reason with such?

Climate deniers
Investing in fuel
Destroying our planet
Leading gullible fools

I think the point
Missed in good intent
Always will be
Those who don't relent

No matter how placid
Your dissent
Your rightful objections
Will offend

"Play nice"
Is fine in context
Still other times
You must be blunt

Do not ask me
To favor one tactic
There is no one
Blanket solution

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Female Deliverance, By Brian37.....

The 70s and 80s
Were very gory
In their depictions
Of horror movies

One little known
Had no Ned
Or squealing pigs
In of isolation

A female writer
On sabbatical
Encountered men
After her

The lake house
In upstate
She thought she'd find
An oasis

Yet the vultures
Captured her
Ravaged her
In brutal meter

Taking turns
Thus defiled
The viewer empathized
Wanting revenge

Over the course
Of this movie
One by one
She she picked them off

Inviting the mastermind
Into a bath
Claiming to like it
She convinced the man

Knife under mat
He was unaware
Of his loins
She'd make short order

Stroking her rapist
In the ivory tub
He had no clue
Of of the sudden slice

Ejaculate
He thought it was
To his surprise
His own blood

She locked him in
The bathroom
To bleed him out
For raping her

The rest of his friends
Fell the same
She got revenge
For what they did
(end)

Now while I am no fan of vigilante justice this poem does depict the theme of how women feel about rape and was graphically depicted in the slasher film "I Spit On Your Grave".

 

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Freaky, By  Brian37............

You think of yourself solid
But the truth is much more odd
Particles and energy
Pass through you every single second

Atoms at conception
From the sperm and egg
Are not in you now
Long since discarded

The clock in the satellite
Runs at different pace
Has to be adjusted
Because of gravity's say

As fast as light can be
Not even it can escape
The gravity of a black hole
Sucked into a cosmic grave

More atoms in one eye
Outnumber the galaxies
In our known universe
Is freaky enough for me

Comic books of antiquity
Lack imagination
Mere reflections of a child
Who hasn't grown up yet

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Marketing, By Brian37.....

Epic of Gilgamesh
Has a flood story
The Code of Hammurabi
Speaks of "An Eye For and Eye"

Thot
Long before Jesus
Also cured blindness
Spit in the eye of Horus

El, Elohim and Yahweh
Long before the Hebrews
Were names of the divine family
In the Canaanite polytheism

Motifs of purity
Existed long before
In pagan mythology
Avoiding the birth canal

Pepsi verses Coke
Is really all it is
One sees the other
And tries to compete with them

Humans get their ideas
To create new religions
Just like every business
Competes for customers

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Don't Follow The Yellow Brick Road, By Brian37.......

Our ancient ancestors
Dreamed and dreamed
Filled in gaps
With fantastic claims

Understandably so
Of that Yellow Brick Road
Humans wallowed in
Their own ignorance

But now it makes no sense
For the giant house
Of  overwhelming science
Has fallen on their witch

We need no magic slippers
Or con artists behind curtains
We've always been in Kansas
Where we've never left
 

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Insecure, By Brian37........

Infantile tyranny
Of the school yard bully
Falsely plays victim
When you call them out

Taboos they set up
Caring not for fact
Dare to question them
"Blasphemy" they will shout

If your claims were true
Easily you could prove
No need to run or hide
Or fear any testing

Insecure you are
So you will avoid
With threats of law
That you might be wrong

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Lost Puppies, By Brian37......

Face to face
Or on the net
Sometimes you run
Into these theists

They look at you
Like you are broken
Thinking pretty stories
Will be our cure

Most of the time
They are unaware
Of how well armed we are
In our knowledge

With their first post
Or first sentence
They offer you God..
As a life raft

Suddenly though
They quickly learn
We are not puppies
For them to train

They step in the ring
Unwittingly
Not understanding
It ain't so easy

We don't buy
Circular reasoning
Arguments from tradition
Or omni claims

Impress us not
Apologists
No matter the deity
They try to defend

If you care
To take a shot
Prove to us
There is a god

We don't mind
We love the frey
But don't be shocked
If we punch back

We are not lost
We've figured it out
Maybe you need to consider
We know more than you think

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Bread Line, Brian37........

You live in a tiny bubble
A lukewarm penthouse flat
With room for a Bentley and Rolls
Caviar and private jet.....

You don't worry about
The plight of others cares
You call it robbery
If someone suggests you share

One day you'll buy a poor town
Or put a pipeline in the country side
And for every tree you cut down
You'll add more stock to your pile

Pay workers a tiny salary
We've had enough of that
No money to make ends meet
For food or to pay the rent

You don't worry about
The plight of others cares
You call it robbery
If someone suggests you share

One day you'll rig a mortgage
Or take a risky bet
Dump your losses on the rest of us
And face no punishment

You don't worry about
The plight of others cares
Because you know
You don't care.

(end)

This poem is an ode to Harry Connic Jr, I hope you don't mind me flattering you but I love your music.

 

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Tough Guy, By Brian37......

If the first default position
Is using that of fists
If you have no desire
To use your intellect

To call that brave
Is naive
Requires no thought
Or research

All you are doing
Is protecting your ego
Nothing short
Of laziness

Yes I did
Dare to say
Soliciting your anger
You tense up

I see you flex
And coil back
Ready to strike me
Because I stood up

Not to counter
Physically
Unlike you
So desperately

I called you out
On your claims
Of to which
You took offense

I will not be frightened
Of your threats
Tough Guys think
They don't use their fists

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Despised By Brian37...

At a private school
I used to attend
Atop a hill
I was standing

A tall railing
Above a sidewalk
I was leaning
Looking down on the street

It was a field day
With lots of games
Outside we'd play
No nothing to study

On the road
A car passed by
It's right passenger tire
Kicked a rock to it's side

The driver heard the noise
Seeing me prior
When he approached
Assumed a kid had thrown it

He pulled in
And made his complaint
To the principle
To which I approached

"No one threw it
"I saw what happend
The tire kicked it up"
I became the suspect

He took us all in
To the lunch room
Until I confessed
Which I did not do

The day ended
With everyone angry
The kids and the staff
Were the lynch mob

So to this day
When I see presumption of guilt
People like Nancy Grace
Make society worse

Until you are put
In that scarey place
Unless you've been there
Of judgment you you face

There is a reason
We base things on facts
Not become vigilantes
It could be one of us

Think about
If it was you
Falsely accused
Of something you did not do.

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Epilogue, By Brian37......

Many times posed
A theist questions
"If nothing after
Then what is the purpose"

You go to a game
Root for your team
Some times you lose
Sometimes you win

You go to a concert
They play for a while
But after the encore
It is all over

You go to a movie
Good or bad
The credits still roll
Happy or sad

How many pets
Have you lost
You'll get another
Death doesn't stop you

So when you ask
The atheist
We are fine
Knowing it ends

What is the purpose?
It is simple
Live your life
Enjoy what you can.

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New Deli, By Brian37......

New Deli, By Brian37......

How many more Wayne?
You talk about rights
While Christopher dies
Two sorority girls expire on a lawn?

How many more Wayne?
These were legally purchased
It wasn't just mental illness
It is the flooded market

It is the ease of access
The volume being made
Protecting profit margins
Filling up the morgues

You selfishly
Protect an industry
That cares not
Who gets killed

All you are
Is a lobbyist
Filling your bank account
With blood money

From urban streets
To kids access
Abusive spouses
And criminals too

You blame the user
Make it legal vs illegal
When this is not
The real issue

300 million
Everywhere
How many more Wayne
Before it is clear

When parents lose children
Or children lose parents
The morgues fill up
Because of the flooded market

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Out Of Context, By Brian37.....

It's all right there
In back and white
I can read it too
Yet I am not right?

What if I find
Someone else
Who reads those same words
With different conclusions?

Multiple sects
Millennia of revisions
Yet out of billions of humans
You came to the right conclusions

Your vanity is showing
How special you are
The only one
To make it that far

If this be the case
Then tell me why
The rest of humanity
Is not on the same page?

Seems to lack
Efficiency
To allow all us humans
To fight over such

Not very smart
Of this boss
To delegate work
He can do himself.

Certainly
With more speed
He could write it himself
Considering his powers

Men out of dirt
A 6 day earth
Yet a thousand years
To write one book?

I am not taking it
Out of context
I am taking it
For exactly what it is

An ancient book
Written by ignorant men
It was never true
Even back then

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Futility, By Brian37

Undulate
In your pews
Prostrate
On your prayer mat

Recite the Torah
If you chose
Clandestine offerings
To yourselves

All your sages
That you follow
Hollow words
They.all bellow

Patent holders
They claim to be
Their god created
Our morality

And humans wonder
About our strife
Elusive peace
We never find

Our compassion
Resides in us
Not in ancient
Books of myth

If you are good
It is in you
Not a story
An old man sold you

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Our Climate Must Change, by Brian37

To long it took,
To remove
Leaded gas
From our vehicles

Nadar screamed
For decades
Cost of seat belts
Car companies complained.

Coal ash dumped
In Tar Heel rivers
Under cloak of secrecy
The same state delivers

Fracking now legal
No citizens questioned
You can be arrested
For exposing it's chemicals

Low tax rates
For the wealthy
Caused the great depression
And the great recession

It is obvious
That there is no "we"
In that of the "people"
In our rising oligarchy

Our climate must change
And put people first
Rule by one class
Only makes things worse

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Brutality, By Brian37 The

Brutality, By Brian37

 

The lion kills

Rival cubs

Still humans thinK

Evolution we are above

 

We see rape

In other primates

And still we think

All life is pretty

 

50 million

Die worldwide

From everything

Year in year out

 

Disease and famine

Birth to old age

Crime and war

We still ignore

 

Religion offers

No solution

To problem solving

To our common existence

 

It gives rise

To brutality

Based on tribalism

And absurd claims

 

If of Allah

Or that of Yahweh

If of Jesus

Or that of Vishnu

 

If any of those

Were the cure

Certainly humans

Would have peace by now

 

Instead we see

Constant violence

Bigotry and hate

Even within  the same ranks

 

Cruelty and compassion

Are in our evolution

Independent

Of tribal clubs

 

200 thousand

Years ago

Nothing today

That is believed

 

Was around then

And we still existed

Managed to reproduce

Evolution continued

 

Our flawed perceptions

In our club think

Leads to the brutality

We chose to ignore

 

Sunnis vs Shiites

Catholics vs Protestents

Jews vs Muslims

Changes not our evolution

 

Even with atheists

I always warn

Never to claim

"We'll treat you better"

 

"We'll treat you better"

Is no garantee

To stop even us

From the same brutality

 

Unfortunately

In reality

Compassion and cruelty

Work in evolution

 

To reduce

These such horrors

We must all accept

Our common existence

 

Short term thought

Is why we repeat

Why we ignore

Our brutality.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dictators, By Brian37

Ganghis Khan
And Po Pot
Caligula
The sane revile

So what defines
In these cases
Of the powers
They obtain

Final say
They all have
If they favor you
You can live

Where is the voting
And protection of dissent
Where is the sanctuary
Of those who object?

All we have to do
Is obey
Follow his laws
As he commands

When people claim
The other gods are wrong
What should we do
Except obey?

There can be
No objectivity
In any god claim
Demanding submission
 

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Brian37 wrote:New Deli, By

Brian37 wrote:

New Deli, By Brian37......

How many more Wayne?
You talk about rights
While Christopher dies
Two sorority girls expire on a lawn?

How many more Wayne?
These were legally purchased
It wasn't just mental illness
It is the flooded market

It is the ease of access
The volume being made
Protecting profit margins
Filling up the morgues

You selfishly
Protect an industry
That cares not
Who gets killed

All you are
Is a lobbyist
Filling your bank account
With blood money

From urban streets
To kids access
Abusive spouses
And criminals too

You blame the user
Make it legal vs illegal
When this is not
The real issue

300 million
Everywhere
How many more Wayne
Before it is clear

When parents lose children
Or children lose parents
The morgues fill up
Because of the flooded market

 

You do realize that half the people murdered in the spree you refer to were killed with a knife right? Of the people he attempted to murder, he had a much greater success rate with the knife than guns. The solution is obvious, replace all knives with guns. 

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Beyond Saving wrote:

Brian37 wrote:

New Deli, By Brian37......

How many more Wayne?
You talk about rights
While Christopher dies
Two sorority girls expire on a lawn?

How many more Wayne?
These were legally purchased
It wasn't just mental illness
It is the flooded market

It is the ease of access
The volume being made
Protecting profit margins
Filling up the morgues

You selfishly
Protect an industry
That cares not
Who gets killed

All you are
Is a lobbyist
Filling your bank account
With blood money

From urban streets
To kids access
Abusive spouses
And criminals too

You blame the user
Make it legal vs illegal
When this is not
The real issue

300 million
Everywhere
How many more Wayne
Before it is clear

When parents lose children
Or children lose parents
The morgues fill up
Because of the flooded market

 

You do realize that half the people murdered in the spree you refer to were killed with a knife right? Of the people he attempted to murder, he had a much greater success rate with the knife than guns. The solution is obvious, replace all knives with guns. 

 You "Other bad shit happens so lets not do anything about gun death." Still doesn't change that 3 of them were murdered with a gun.

You, "Someone stubbed their toe, MORE GUNS"......."Someone chipped a nail, MORE GUNS".

If guns are not candy and they are not, then they should not be made at the volume of candy or handed out as easily as candy. This is not about rights at all. You are the one who masturbates over how great the private sector is so you should understand what is causing this. MONEY and just like any industry guns are a business too and their CEO's job is to keep and or expand the market. The original NRA when it started was a safety organization and was not a heat sheild to protect profits for the industry, but now it is. You are out of your mind if you think 300 million guns is managable and will reduce gun injury and death. I'll make you a deal, I will shut up when we get our gun deaths down to that of Japans.

In a utopia world I wouldn't give one fuck who owns a gun, but the shear amount floating around and the eas of access is not managable currently. More guns will not solve shit and the status quo is unacceptable.

 

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Brian37 wrote:
If guns are not candy and they are not, then they should not be made at the volume of candy or handed out as easily as candy.

...and they are not.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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Brian37 wrote: You "Other

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 You "Other bad shit happens so lets not do anything about gun death." Still doesn't change that 3 of them were murdered with a gun.

Still doesn't change that 3 of them were murdered by knife and his success rate with the knife was 100%, while he was substantially less efficient with the gun. There are very good reasons for that, starting with a gun isn't a fucking miracle machine that means instant death to whoever you want to kill. It takes a lot of skill to kill a person with one shot, our SF guys fire litterally 10s of thousands of rounds to train themselves to achieve the feat of consistently killing people with one shot. Shot placement counts, something that fortunately, most mass murder wackos don't have. Usually because they buy a gun off the shelf, hit the range a few times (if that) and think they are going to mow people down by the dozens. Guns don't work like they do in the movies, trust me, I have killed a lot of living animals with guns.

 

 

Brian37 wrote:

If guns are not candy and they are not,

No, they aren't. Guns are much better than candy, although Candy with a gun or two is pretty damn sexy. 

 

 

Brian37 wrote:

then they should not be made at the volume of candy

They aren't.

Revenue of the gun industry: $12 billion. (including all guns, ammo and government sales)

Revenue of Nestle: $100 billion.

Since I know you are mathematically challengend $100 billion is much larger than $12 billion... and that is just one candy company. The whole candy industry is several hundred billion. 

Number of new guns per year: 20 million (more than double the average of previous years, Obama has been great for the gun industry, but for the sake of your argument, we will assume that is the new normal) By the way, the fastest growing segment of gun owners are women, like Candy. 

Number of Hershey bars sold per year: 123 million.

(123 million > 20 million)

How about weight? 

I can't find a candy stat, but Americans eat over 2 BILLION pounds of chocolate per year. Just chocolate, a large piece of the candy market, but by no means all. 

Guns? Impossible to calculate for sure, but lets go extreme. My most recent acquisition is system that is 19 pounds. It is a big fucking gun that is highly specialized, much heavier than what most people buy. Most pistols are measured in ounces and your typical hunting shotgun is going to be in the 5-7 pound range. But to give your argument a prayer, let's pretend that everyone who bought a gun, bought a 19 pound one. 19 * 20 million= 380 million pounds.  

380 million < 2 billion

So how are you measuring? By revenue, number and weight, candy production far outstrips guns. (Yet, we all know you will continue with the lie)

 

Brian37 wrote:
 

or handed out as easily as candy.

Really? I've never had to even show my drivers license to purchase candy. For my last purchase, I had to pay in full up front and then fill out an application. The application required me to go to the local police station, get finger printed, provide two copies of my passport photo, pay a $200 extortion tax, wait for the fucking ATF to process my paper work and decide that I'm not a terrorist (5 months, fortunately, my gun was being custom made so the gun and supressor were able to be completed together) and then when I picked up my new gun, I had to fill out another form that will sit in a dusty file forever until the government decides they need to know who to kill first. All because I decided I would like my hearing to last until I am at least 60 and make my gun super deadly by adding a suppressor. Which makes it so quiet you can only hear it from about a mile away instead of ten miles.

You ever have to do that to buy candy? What kind of "candy" are you buying?    

 

Brian37 wrote:

This is not about rights at all.

Obviously, you don't believe in rights, you believe in government tyranny as long as the government agrees with you.  

 

Brian37 wrote:

You are the one who masturbates over how great the private sector is so you should understand what is causing this. MONEY and just like any industry guns are a business too and their CEO's job is to keep and or expand the market.

Money doesn't cause anything. Money is a result. You get money by satisfying the demands of people. Right now, a lot of people want guns. Although, a lot more people want candy. If your sole goal is to become rich, candy is far more promising than guns. More demand, fewer regulations, fewer barriers of entry and a much larger profit margin. That is why you probably have a couple of local candy companies that make jellies or brownies of fudge or something, but probably don't have a local gun maker. The gun industry has pretty much consolidated into a couple of behemoths. The company that currently owns the worlds largest gun manufacturer (Freedom Group) is called Cerberus Capital has investments in excess of $20 billion and they've been looking to sell. Their gun investments are a drop in the bucket to them. There is no vast conspiracy and huge money in guns. At the level these companies play at, the gun industry is a rounding error. They aren't sitting in their offices thinking "guns guns guns!" they have some underling wall street weenie analyzing the market and telling them whether to buy or sell the company.   

 

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The original NRA when it started was a safety organization and was not a heat sheild to protect profits for the industry, but now it is.

No, it was not a safety organization. The NRA was initially nothing more than a club of people who enjoyed shooting rifles and decided to organize it into a competition. It was, is and always has been an organization that mostly consists of target shooters and hunters. If you find a gun nut at  an NRA convention, you better buy a lottery ticket because it is your lucky day. They never addressed the topic of safety until 1988 (over 100 years after its founding) with Eddie Eagle. The NRA is not, and never has been against gun control. They have always been and are now extremely weak on the subject. Which is why I am not a member.

 

Brian37 wrote:

You are out of your mind if you think 300 million guns is managable and will reduce gun injury and death.

Of course 300 million guns are manageable, that is less than one gun per person. I have 28 and I manage to shoot all of them on a fairly regular basis. I do have one shotgun that mostly collects dust because it was my grandfathers and wasn't cared for very well. I keep it more for sentimental reasons than anything. So call it 27 guns I manage. So don't worry, just like taxes, I am taking care of your fair share of the guns along with my own. Don't say I never do anything for you.

 

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I'll make you a deal, I will shut up when we get our gun deaths down to that of Japans.

Well then you should be pushing for a police state. Have you ever studied Japan's justice system? (Yeah, I know you haven't) There is a reason they have low crime rates across the board. I wouldn't want to live in that kind of system, but it is very effective. All I have to say, is when you convict 99% of people, you are catching pretty much all the bad guys, but you are also putting a lot of innocents in prisons. 

 

Brian37 wrote:

More guns will not solve shit and the status quo is unacceptable.

I agree. The status quo is extremely unacceptable. That is why we need more guns. 

If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X