Poetry by Brian37 (poems by an atheist)

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I post all over the web, but I want a back up in case my computer or one particular website goes down.

Out out brief Candle, By Brian37

QUOTE WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE MACBETH:"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Here is my spin on that wonderful and profound line:



Out, Out brief candle, By Brian37

To-deities, and to-gods, and to-God

Creeps in this petty tyrant from day to day

Until the extinction of humanity new ones will be invented

And all our yestergods have been created by fools

The way to tribal death. Out out brief myth

Claims are but a walking shadow, a poor reflection

That struts our narcissism upon the stage

And then is heard no more. It is a tale

Told by the credulous, full of sound and fury

Signifying nothing.

 (END)

To all reading this thread, you may spread the link to this thread BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE MY PERMISSION TO POST INDIVIDUAL POEMS! Brian Sapient the owner of this website is full aware of my real name and my physical address. You will not get away with passing yourself off as me! ALL POEMS IN THIS THREAD ARE SOLE PROPERTY OF THE PERSON(ME) and may not be distributed without MY permission.

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This poem is about a nutcase

This poem is about a nutcase woman who was SUPER SUPER jealous that I dated. I had dumped her, but she was so abusive to me I had a nightmare even after dumping her, and one night woke up in a cold sweat. This poem is about that dream. In it I am in a house with a "future" girlfriend(not in reality, just in the dream, in it she is faceless). The abusive woman was not faceless. Now I am not into dream reading, this merely was my brain being over active in my dream state, likely brought on by some real stress I was not aware of.

Subconscious Slave, by Brian37

 

A woman

Who had gone by the wayside

A woman I had once loved

Accosted my subconscious last night

 

She poured gas

On a marble floor

Glaring up at me

With hate

 

A top, I was

On stairs of glass

Looking down

Upon my fate

 

Would she make glow, the marble floor

I had labored in this dream?

As she ran out the front door

And locked me in, I did hear her scream.

 

Vengeance she did want, my projector did convey

For all those times I had flirted

In her eyes

To her dismay

 

Down I ran

Holding banisters

Of chestnut wood

The long journey, a short distance

 

Running as fast as I could.

 

A faceless body

Did appear

At the place

Where I had been

 

From the top

She did inquire

"What trouble

Are we in?"

 

My love of new

I had to save

My love of old

A subconscious slave.

 

This house of white

Composed of many windows

So vast was such this sight

We had nearly froze.

 

Bulletproof glass

Uncommonly paper thin

I did try to break

Forcefully holding us in.

 

Was more than I could take.

 

A run, a smash,

Then we were out,

Police were scrambling

All around

 

Her hands in cuffs

They did place

Never again

Would I see her face

 

My love of new

I had to save

My love of old

A subconscious slave.

(end)

 

She was one of those people, whom some of us, both male or female, date, look back at and say "what the fuck was I thinking."

 

 

 

 

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The Eyes Of Silver, Mirrors,

The Eyes Of Silver, Mirrors, Glass and Windows, By Brian37

 

Is the glass,

We look through,

Transparent?

Or,

Does it have

A silver side?

 

Eyes,

That we look into,

The pupils may not be new,

Duplicates they may be

Or,

A residence,

Of the silver side.

 

Silver,

A fickled color,

Silver,

A distorted color,

Silver,

A shinny color,

Silver,

Of many shades.

 

Silver,

A fickled color,

Black and gold,

Are its friends,

Never it is seen,

With pink or orange.

 

Silver,

A distorted color,

Of unmanaged coins,

Tarnished by conceit.

 

Silver,

A shinny color,

That medals display,

Pride or ego,

Hero or braggart,

To what reward,

Do we owe?

 

Silver,

A useful color,

For it reflects.

 

Glass,

Transparent,

Deceitful,

"Watch out, it's closed"

 

Glass,

Of Tiffany,

Aesthetic,

Multi talented.

Glass,

Bullet proof,

Thick,

Undaunted, protective.

 

Glass,

Fragile,

Handle with care.

 

Glass,

A useful thing,

For through it,

The world we see.

 

When next you see,

A silver side,

Take a gander,

And find you may,

A reflection of transparent class.

 

Look through that glass,

Will you see,

Pupils of you,

That belong to me?

 

Windows do not reflect,

Should they be,

Jealous of mirrors?

No,

Windows can open.

 

Mirrors do not open,

Should they be,

Jealous of windows?

No,

Mirrors reflect.

 

Use both,

Arn't they really the same?

 

Outside the window,

There may inhabit,

A likeness thereof.

 

Inside the mirror,

There may inhabit,

A face not seen.

 

Are  you silver?

Are you a mirror?

Are you glass?

Are you a window?

We are not one,

We are all.

 

 

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In my copying and pasting

In my copying and pasting somehow I double posted a poem and repeated it with the title NEDA.

This is the CORRECT version of "Neda". It is a poem about the woman who got shot in the chest by the Iranian government goons.

 

Neda, By Brian37

She was alive
Crossing the Delaware
She spoke with King
For all that's fair

She faced Gestapo
Wearing green
Persian fascists
Will not win

Her name is Susan
And she will Be
Never forgotten
In history

The Iatola
Insecure
Has her shot
From afar

I will see her
On the 4th
In the colors
We all share

Still alive
In us all
Neda's voice
Will never fall

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12 Step Deity, By

12 Step Deity, By Brian37

 

Hi,

My name is Jesus,

I and I preach peace.

 

Hi,

My name is Yahweh ,

And I preach peace.

 

Hi,

My name is Allah,

And I preach peace.

 

Hi,

My name is Vishnu,

And I preach peace.

 

Hi,

My name is Buddha,

And I preach peace.

 

Hi,

My name is Brian,

And I am an atheist,

And I ask,

Where is the peace?

 

Every dogma,

Claims the answers,

The "cure all"

For humanity's ills.

 

But so far,

In world history,

A trail of blood,

Is traced to each.

 

Again I ask,

Where is the peace?

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Notice The Pebble, by Brian37

Notice The Pebble, By Brian37

 

Will my name,

Explode across marquees,

Or fizzle out,

In a wave of time?

 

A pebble I am,

 

Will future eyes,

Gaze upon my words,

Or along with my flesh,

Demise will take?

 

A pebble I am,

 

Will new Professors,

Debate my wisdom,

Or dismiss it,

As junk?

 

A pebble I am,

 

In a face of worlds,

With meshing voices,

Decibels insurmountable.

In a face of worlds,

With many headlines,

And no solutions,

Who will notice?

 

A pebble I am,

 

Small, so small am I,

Facing rocks, boulders and cliffs.

If that be the terrain,

It is so the path of choice.

 

A pebble I am,

To many others,

But count I will,

The ones who care

They be the ones

My riches I share.

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Decrepit, By Brian37 Sunken

Decrepit, By Brian37

 

Sunken eyes

Hollow cheeks

Oxidization

Rusting at great depths

 

Ghastly tradition

Demanding submission

Obtuse stagnation

Abandons reason

 

A living corpse

Decrepit thought

No query found

To counter such

 

Abbeys and Imams

Clergy and clerics

Rabbis and priests

Rust in the past

 

Living relics

Exist as memes

In the minds

Of hubris gall

 

Frenzy of feast

On top they must be

Perverse justification

Compassion the victim

 

Pliable beings

Ambiguous strain

Manifesting into

Cults and religion

 

Abounding gallows

For the outsiders

Heresy's doomed

To fill all prisons

 

Indignation

Feigned and false

Taboo status

With flesh the cost

 

It creates skeletons

Insidious meme

Filling the chambers

Death to outsiders

 

Decrepit thought

Must be discarded

Replaced with reason

And cure of scrutiny

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Godwin's Mao Contents, By

Godwin's Mao Contents, By Brian37



While Newt suggests

The purge of gambling

And even porn

With consenting adults



Some still today

Love to proclaim

That the godless

Can have no morals



It does not matter

Religion never left Russia

Nor the amount of pictures

Hitler is in with clergy



It matters not

To the ilk of this lot

That we can be good

Without a god



It is the desperate action

Of those without evidence

To demonize

Those who dare to question



I submit

Your proclaimed hero

Has the same attribute

To that of dictators



The rule by one

Who cannot be removed

Where you are the property

He can do with as he wills



You can bargain

In futility

But in the end

You cannot leave



We are not fascists

For simply saying

Your claims make no sense

And have no evidence



I value Vegas

And Playboy

I value your right

To make absurd claims



But you will not

Any longer

Get away

With your ignorant fodder



Hitler and Stalin

Mao and Po Pot

Were human garbage

Not reflecting us



To demonize questioning

Then to be consistent

Demonize Jefferson

For he too valued questioning



Your right to believe

Is not our issue

It is the credibility

Of what you utter



No more no more

Can you dodge with this

Childish fear mongering

No longer will work

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Boldly Proclaim, By

Boldly Proclaim, By Brian37

 

Boldly proclaim

"I am a Christian"

Was the bot add

When I clicked

 

Clicked on this

Atheist website

Full of heathens

The damned village

 

What if I bought

An add and it said

"Boldly proclaim

The earth to be flat"

 

What if that add

"Boldly proclaimed"

That Allah is real

All others be damned

 

Is it "bold"

To pontificate

Over mere predilections

Without evidence?

 

The age of Pharaohs

Were "bold" and built

Built monuments

And the tomb of Tut

 

You can be "bold"

And also wrong

You can fight

For falsehoods and fiction.

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Self Determination, By

Self Determination, By Brian37

 

He fled his home

It was not Europe

A thousand years

Ago

 

He was not shackled

On a farm

The property

Of a white man

 

The "self determination"

Of his country

In modern day

Sought inquisition

 

On his thoughts

For he rejected

The social memes

Of the majority

 

This man's crime

His only crime

Was thinking

For himself

 

The honor of the state

And it's official deity

Were blasphemed

Thus he must pay

 

Fled as such

From this theocracy

Falsely pretending

To be a democracy

 

The artist, the scientist

Those who dare to query

Always under threat

Of religious tyranny

 

"Self determination"

Can never be moral

If the lest in a society

Are not protected

 

 

 

 

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Translating Rosetta Stone,

Translating Rosetta Stone, By Brian37

In the lexicon
Of the theist
Are whims of fancy
Desire of fiction

"Miracle"
Is uttered
As a mere place card
"It must be magic"

"Sin"
Is uttered
When the reality is
Humans make mistakes

Darwin was the pioneer
Not the Pope
Not the Imam
Not the Rabbi

The real stone
Is in the lab
In that of study
In that of biology

Not words
Concocted
Falsely exalted
Blind adherence

Double Helix
Is reality
Not Biblio Helos
The "Sun book"

Not any book
Of antiquity
Compares to
Modern reality

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On Golden Reality, By

On Golden Reality, By Brian37

Guess who
Is is coming
To
Reality

A Bogie
On a boat
To become
An African Queen

The pond of humanity
In our commonality
In our strife
In our struggles

Her words conveyed
"I am an atheist
And that is it.
I believe there is nothing

We can know
Except
That we should be
Kind to each other

And do
What we can
For
Other people."

A Journal
Of Ladies
Of The Home
Whence thus recorded

To such a human
I can only say
A hero to all
Who seek autonomy

(end)

The quote as follows infused in this poem inspired this poem.


"I’m an atheist, and that’s it. I believe there’s nothing we can know except that we should be kind to each other and do what we can for other people." Katherine Hepburn ,Ladies Home Journal October 1991

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If It Were Mine, By Brian37

If It Were Mine, By Brian37

Selfish contexts
Have been uttered
To be on top
Their only goal

Blind be others
In that of context
World peace
Proclaim as such

How, how does
This math work
"If only I could"
All would be well?

Would the seasons
Suddenly be
The fancy of those
Who are fond of them?

All the same
With no change
No hot, no cold
No snow drifts or palm fronds?

If it were mine
It could not be
Ever the whims
Of absolute power

I could only be
The mindset
That it is ours
And change the norm

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Rodney King, By Brian37

Rodney King, By Brian37

In that era,
Much younger then
I took a trip
With what I thought was a friend

He was ego driven
Rocker with tassel
Leather bad ass
To the beach we went

On the way back
He was "hell bent"
To getting back
To a date he had made

So the highway
Interstate 95
Up to Washington DC
On our way back

Might as well been
The Indy 500
He became Andretti
Out on a mission

We weaved in and out
Like playing Froger
My body fused
To a seat of a shuttle launch

The bubble gum lights
Never caught up to us
I have to ask
If they had

Both of us white
With Road Runner speed
How would authorities
Responded to such

Would batons
After submission
Still bloodied us
If he'd been  pulled over?

Obama now President
It still seems sad
That color of skin
Remains an issue

If one among us
All 7 billion
Claims perfect by proxy
They are deluded

It is not of white
Or of politics
It is about
When one get's cornered

King responded
Because of environment
And those in power
Who abandon him

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Omni Benevolent, By Brian37

Omni Benevolent, By Brian37

The days old
Leporid
The size
Of my thumb

I almost
Stepped on
Walking to
The gas station

If it had not
Twitched
My mind had thought
It was a fragment of pine cone

Emaciated
Clearly it was
Boney
And dehydrated

How did this
Newborn get separated
Isolated from it's family
Water and food

Just feet away
From a country road
No sidewalks
On a day of 85 degrees

I picked it up
Expecting it to struggle
But somehow it knew
I was trying to help

I coddled it
In my hands
Escorted it to the station
Asked for a box

Once home
I tried to coax it
Into drinking offerings
Of milk and water

It moved
With my petting
And soft voice
But did not drink

I tried for hours
But had to sleep
Next morning to work
I turned out the lights

I hoped as I could
Maybe if alone
It would not fear
My offerings

Yet as dawn broke
I went to its home
To sorrowfully discover
It had passed

I at least tried
What excuse
Would such a being have
Who could, but didn't?

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Uhhh?

Uhhhh? What?

It's impossible for an atheist to write poetry consistently speaking. Because in atheism, you can't step in the same river twice. This would also imply grammar and syntax of language including the sciene of poetry.

Unless you are inconsistent, if you suck at being an atheist, then poetry is possible. Though only due to the fact that you are a distorted kind of image of God.

When you are in hell, and you are no longer the image of God, you will no longer be able to write poetry. For if you did, you would have to convey your screams line after line after line. you would have room for nothing else.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.

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Jean Chauvin wrote:Uhhhh?

Jean Chauvin wrote:

Uhhhh? What?

It's impossible for an atheist to write poetry consistently speaking. Because in atheism, you can't step in the same river twice. This would also imply grammar and syntax of language including the sciene of poetry.

Unless you are inconsistent, if you suck at being an atheist, then poetry is possible. Though only due to the fact that you are a distorted kind of image of God.

When you are in hell, and you are no longer the image of God, you will no longer be able to write poetry. For if you did, you would have to convey your screams line after line after line. you would have room for nothing else.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

I think my next poem will be called "The Tsunami and the Jackass".

I don't mind you posting here, gives me free advertisement and bumps my post to the top of the recent post lists. So that would make you a complete fucking dumb ass giving me what I want.

The Tsunami and the Jackass, By Brian37

There once was a dick

Named Jean

Who loved vengeance

Whose god was mean

 

Who took Hostages

In Japan

Not to punish them

But used as mere pawns

 

13,000 dead

So this magical being

Could save

The stars and stripes

 

Thus such the claim

Of wonderful Jean

Using threats and bribes

Of his dictator king.

 

Your pontification

And bellowing farts

Are hardly impressive

Nothing but garbage

 

Post as you will

Your childish swill

You have nothing

And never will

 

 

 

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Brian,

that was cute. i don't mind bumping you. consider it a little love from your friend jean.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).


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Jean Chauvin

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Brian,

that was cute. i don't mind bumping you. consider it a little love from your friend jean.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

You will never be my friend. You are a troll and an asshole.

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Thot's Pharmacy, By Brian37

Thot's Pharmacy, By Brian37

Clemens spoke
Of the pharmacy
"The practice adapting
But the medicine the same"

"Debilitating poisons"
Kept his patients
Sickly dependent
Progress stagnant

Indolent thought
Of written word
Gave rise
To thumbscrews and firebrands

Though this past
Of insidious horrors
Of owning humans
And Salem Mass

Are discarded horrors
The compassionate
Struggled
To end

The cannon remains
The words passed on
Surely to remain
The vile weapon it will always be
(end)

This poem is an ode to the Essay of Mark Twain( Samuel Clemens) about how while progress was made, Twain was wise to recognize that as long as people read their holy books the written word is always a weapon.

And for those who don't know the origin of the pharmacy symbol comes from the Egyptian myth of the healing god Thot spitting in the eye of Horus to cure his blindness. The R is Thot and the x is the eye of Horus. The same "miracle" motif is found later in history also in the bible.

I read this excerpt from the book "The Portable Atheist"(the late Christopher Hitchens) and hardly "Portable". The book is as thick and big as the Yellow Pages, still a good read.

The name of Twain's Essay is "From Europe and Elsewhere and A Pen Warmed Up In Hell"

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Bus Stop, By Brian37 

Bus Stop, By Brian37

 

The driver places their baggage

In the undercarriage

Containing the asphyxia

Of male and female demons

 

Originally thought of

Merely as spirits

Later to become the slur

Marketed by the church

 

With each lo cal

Details get off the bus

Others get on

But the nightmare survives

 

That incubi and succubi

Sit on one's chest

During slumber

The tempter and temptress

 

Decrees of fear

Of these "evil angels"

Passed on

By Pope Innocent the VIII

 

Our downfall

According to him

Was intercourse

With the phantoms

 

Persecution followed

Pyres and racks

Blessed by priests

In false piety

 

Modern psychology

Has solved this "mystery"

There are no "demons"

Of either sex

 

Sleep paralysis

Was all it was

There are no demons

No "evil angels"

 

This is the danger

Of human ignorance

Of gap answers

Leading to murder

 

Immolations

In public

Pierre De Lancre

Demanded the silence of critics

 

The Greyhound

Still picks up passengers

And it's luggage

In need of skull and crossbones

 

"Prepare For War"

By Rebecca Brown

Condemned the sinners

In 1992

 

"Demonic infestation"

Her words insist

Even to the extent

Of Jagger and Jackson

 

Persistent delusion

Forgone sanity

The price of the ticket

Is our own flesh

(end)

 This is another poem inspired by Hitchens book quoting essays in the "Portable Atheist". This is an ode to Sagan's piece "The Demon Haunted World".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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De Rerum Natura Propitiation, By Brian37

Alters and offerings
Futile folly
In sacrifice
To nothingness

Lucretius pioneer
To suggest
Nature is
Without aid of gods

He proposed
Long before Hawkins
That gods
Were not required

Not to claim him
As prophet
Lucretius
Merely stated the obvious

Merely seeing cycles
In seasons
In life
In death

Denying that
Of magic
In decay
In birth

He suspected
And rightfully so
That if a divine hand
Had the power

It could for example
Make an ice burg
Instantly
In summer Mojave

"Atoms"
As used by their thinkers
Merely meant
"of smaller parts"

How right they were
Even though
They knew not
Of protons and electrons

From book 1
Lucretius wrote
The profound
Only later to become profane

"And in what way
All came
Without help of gods
Into being"

The late horseman
Victim of cancer
Talked of Lucretius
In his book

"But Lucretius
Teaches us
To live without
Such Piffle"

De Rerum Natura
Of Propitiation
Hitchens would claim
"Religion poisons everything".
(end)

Another ode to Hitchen's Portable Atheist. Now Lucretius was not "onto something" but merely was stating the obvious, even though he didn't know the modern scientific reality. He defaulted to cycles and that material seemed to merely be made of smaller parts that mixed. That being the reality of nature and life in no need of superstitious gods, even to his mind existed, seem to have no concern with humans.




 

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It strangled the Greeks
With the strings
And wires
Of human arrogance

The weapon
Seeps down
Trough generations
Reason it's victim

The sticks of ignorance
Held together
With the wire
Of divinity

 

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It strangled the Greeks
With the strings
And wires
Of human arrogance

The weapon
Seeps down
Trough generations
Reason it's victim

The sticks of ignorance
Held together
With the wire
Of divinity

 

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Graham Cracker, By Brian37

In the Taft Hotel
Charles Templeton
Had faced reality
Confronting Billy

"It is simply
Not possible
Any longer
To believe

For instance
The biblical
Account
Of Creation"

Templeton
Stated science
Graham
Remained defiant

"I believe
The Genesis account
Of creation
Because it's in the bible"

But at that meeting
Templeton responded
To vain circular reasoning
The following

"We need to grow
To develop
Some intellectual
Sinew"

They parted ways
Charles had left
The fold
For green pasture of reason

"Much of what he says
In the pulpit
Is puerile
Archaic nonsense"

The words
Of his last paragraph
"A Personal Word
From "A Farewell to God"
(end)

Another ode to the late Hitchens from his "Portable Atheist" excerpting Charles Templeton's writings. I like it because it demonstrates that even that high up in a religious circle people can and do rightfully give up on superstition when faced with scientific fact.

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Back room tactics
At the last minute
The bigoted petitioners
Made a ballot

Praying on
The bigotry
Of the voter
Stifling progress again

And
Another state
Embodies
The worst of human nature

Maybe if our POTUS
Had spoken of those prior
On behalf
Of the minority

He could have spoke
Of the prior trials
Of blacks
And natives, and women

On the Tuesday
Of the 11th month
Will this be
His only term?

It was a calculation
To sideline
With the word
"Evolve"

I fear that
This new ban
May anger
His base

They may ask
Why did you wait
Why did you allow
Voters to discriminate?

Maybe the calculation
On his part
Was that the ban
Would rally his base?

He had no problem
Repealing don't ask
So why did he wait
For this primary?

And after the fact
After the vote
The Powder Blue state
Is shackled by bigotry

Where was he
Last week
Where was he
In defense of the meek?

In all sincerity
With all my hope
I hope our POTUS
Knows what he's doing.
(end)

I am wondering why Obama waited until after the NC vote to do the right thing. He already repealed DADT and refused to enforce the defense of marriage act. All I can think is that he is thinking long term. But the risk I see is that some will ask "where were you last week, last month"?

I hope this doesn't hurt him. But damn, last week Biden said that he supported gay marriage.

AND the worst part is that the social issues are what exactly what Republicans use to distract voters from economic issues.

And I am totally ashamed right now that I live in NC.

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Big Tent, By Brian37

Washington
Was once asked
About carpenters
And Mt Vernon

His response
Was clear
About his
Vision

He stated
In his penmanship
It mattered not
The label of such

It mattered not
If this carpenter
Was a Jew, or from Africa
Or even an atheist

Yet falsely today
The revisionist
Still insist
That of a pecking order

Gives at best
Uncle Tom
Separate but equal
Status to non Christians

Jefferson too
On the issue
Of the morality
Of atheist said

"It is idle to say,
As some do
That no such thing
Exists"

Yet Mitt
Being Mormon
Taking advantage
Of "no religious test"

Is unwilling
As a minority himself
To stand up
For gays.

He did nothing
To protect
His own
Gay supporter

Coward
Is the only label
Apt
For such a man
(end)

"If they are good workmen, they may be of Asia, Africa, or Europe. They may be Mohometans, Jews or Christians of any Sect, or they may be Atheists."
-- George Washington, letter to Tench Tilghman asking him to secure a carpenter and a bricklayer for his Mount Vernon estate, March 24, 1784

"If we did a good act merely from the love of God and a belief that it is pleasing to Him, whence arises the morality of the Atheist? It is idle to say, as some do, that no such thing exists."Thomas Jefferson, letter to Thomas Law, June 13, 1814,

If BOTH Jefferson and Washington were willing to see an individual as such, then no one has any excuse to treat gays any differently.

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Raising a kid
On her own
In the desert
Out of the ashes

The obtuse boss
Belittled Alice
And Flo
And fragile Vera

Yet those women
Always
Stood ground
And bailed him out

Yet in reality
In a real city
An Academy school
For something so petty

Our Lady Of Sorrows
Could not handle
A female baseball player
On a rival team

Women bail out men
All the time
And still are subject
To stupid sexism
(end)

This poem is about a recent story about a Catholic school refusing to play a rival team because that team had a girl on their baseball team.

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Hanburger Meat, By Brian37

 

Long before

He put a gun to his chest

Long before

Lightening bolts

 

The Golden Arches

Had made a deal

With that of a player

With number 55

 

The stuffed doll

I did procure

As a kid

Enamored me

 

The Raggedy Redskin

That my mom bought

At Mc Donalds

In the 1970s

 

Cheering

For the underdog

And

Minority

 

To say how?

The same number

Cut its own life short

Is not a stretch

 

Glory

Was the motif

Is the motif

In all sports

 

Yet those who own

These sport teams

Are not the ones

Leaving with injuries

 

Their love of money

Over rides

The heath of the players

That make them rich

 

Jr died

For the same reason

That Richard Jenny

The comedian

 

Was falsely taught

If you fail

Anything right

That you have done

 

No matter the scale

Is still not best

If not to reach

You have lost

 

I say how

He died

No one told him

To accept himself

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jean you may want to retract that entirely .. ..

  Looking 'at' the '*content', I fail to see where Brian37 "sucks at being an atheist", that has to be a quote for the ages

Mean_Jean wrote:
  Unless you are inconsistent, if you suck at being an atheist, then poetry is possible. Though only due to the fact that you are a distorted kind of image of God.

When you are in hell, and you are no longer the image of God, you will no longer be able to write poetry. For if you did, you would have to convey your screams line after line after line. you would have room for nothing else.

  Jean you keep tossing around this word friend. Friends seldom get down on their friends; want to know why ? Because they are friends.


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danatemporary wrote: 

danatemporary wrote:

  Looking 'at' the '*content', I fail to see where Brian37 "sucks at being an atheist", that has to be a quote for the ages

Mean_Jean wrote:
  Unless you are inconsistent, if you suck at being an atheist, then poetry is possible. Though only due to the fact that you are a distorted kind of image of God.

When you are in hell, and you are no longer the image of God, you will no longer be able to write poetry. For if you did, you would have to convey your screams line after line after line. you would have room for nothing else.

  Jean you keep tossing around this word friend. Friends seldom get down on their friends; want to know why ? Because they are friends.

Friends SHOULD get down on their friends. But "friend" to Jean isn't in that context, "friend" to him is merely someone to abuse or scam. I would want someone to tell me if I have body odor at work. I would want someone to correct me if I am wrong. Jean doesn't care about me. He cares about how he can use me.

But I am fine with him being here. If his tactic is to try to put me on display, two can play that game. I am a big boy. Jean is as as much a threat to me as his god is.

 

 

 

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What Can Be Said, By Brian37

There are periods
Of 24 hours
Our species exalts
For various reasons

The birth of a nation
A famous person
Annual games
Annual awards

But no nation
No single person
Would be alive
Without you

And only you
Have been my tie
Only you
Helped me survive

There is only
One day
Important to me
Only one day

It was the day
You chose to say
To yourself
Of this child I'll take

And from that moment
You did not waver
Always seeking
To help me further

I am not me
Without you
What can be said
I am glad you are you.

Happy Mothers Day Mom.

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McCarthyism, By Brian37

Not of
Ideology
This is
A simple story

Pining after
That of which
Loins of desire
Wanting her desperately

Plagued was I
By youth
In awkwardness
And insecurity

And she was
The Venus
That of Troy
Launching a thousand ships

Tri Lamb
Luis and Gillbert
Could only be
Those who understood

Cruel be that
Of impressions years
Held hostage
By mere hormones

I thought if only
A rose I could give
This fair lady
Would be impressed

Not so would that be
I could not have her
Of Proms and Homecomings
She she was invested

Of pimples and braces
I was inflicted
Scrawny and meek
My voice was rejected

The scourge of chemicals
Biology produces
Torturing teens
With emotional ignorance

If one were to ask
If I wish to repeat
Those horrible years
I'd certainly decline

Take heed
That of my kindred
Age is your friend
You will find

That someone can
And someone will
Love you
For who you are

To base on faces
Or to be popular
Is a twitch
In time
(end)

This poem is about a girl I pined after in high school. I look back at it now and how stupid I was in obsessing over what was merely my hormones. The title is based on her last name. High school is cruel to many, not just about the opposite sex, but when you are awkward and insecure, it makes those teen years that much more cruel. I am so happy that those years are behind me and those insecurities can be overcome with time.

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A Casual Stroll, By Brian37

Can one distinguish
The difference
Between talking
To a god

To that
Of talking to
A tree
Or tin foil?

Quilted white
On all the walls
We place these people
When they talk to themselves

Yet Sabbath comes
On a Friday
On a Saturday
Or that of Sunday

And the masses
Praise their nothingness
Insisting that such
Does exist



Angry they get
In their padded cells
Calling them Mosques
Churches and Synagogues

If to dare
State he's nowhere
To challenge them
With a mirror

Outside their sect
The do reflect
That of others
Thy rightfully reject

But if to talk
To the invisible
Is acceptable
With the right label

Fredrick's asylum
Is where they should be
Every one
In history

(end)

Fredrick Nietzsche A casual stroll through a lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.

 

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Capricious, By Brian37

In my cubical
Wandering by
My boss did so
Look me in the eye

Fervently typing
To avoid his wrath
Knowing of
His mood swings

Oppressive environment
It surely was
Out of fear
I froze in my chair

Finally I quit
I could not defend
This cosmic bully
Who threatened me

Those who suggest
The omni boss
Who treats us like property
To do with his will

If at your job
In real life
Would you put up
With such a boss?

Would it be
Ok for him
Not to merely fire you
But beat or kill you?

Would it be
Ok for him
To allow rivals
To murder you?

Could he
If he wished
Pull off his belt
And whip your back?

Of course of course
We are not slaves
So why do you
Inflict your brain

Inflict your brain
With such absurd claims
Willfully subjecting
To mental slavery?

The good news is
He does not exist
He cannot beat you
Or make threats

You are not property
For him to abuse
You are allowed
To think for yourself

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"Our Machine" By Brian37

A new campaign
Concocted by Hardees
Calls a black women
In the spot"Our Machine"

In it's attempt
To convey freshness
They exposed
The truth of the corporate world

But not just blacks
But all who end the day
With crumbs and oily smocks
Ending the day in a shower

WE are mere machines
Numbers on a page
There as mere tools
For CEOs and shareholders

Machines don't get paid
Machines don't have bills
Machines don't have families
Machines don't need health care

It is this attitude
That drives down wages
Drives up the cost of living
Dumping it on those who can least afford it

And do tell Hardees
Tell us what most
Of your "Machines"
Make?

Yes America
You are just a tool
Just mere property
Just a "machine"

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Little Brown Spot On The Sun Today, By Brian37

The government sanctioned color
That transports youth
To academia
Also divides the blacktop

On my way
Walking to the store
I found a tiny thing
Straddling like Stephen Peer

Over the Twin Towers
Knowing its ballast
Would most certainly
Fail

What had caused
This poor avian
To end up
In such a precarious location?


On inch left, splat
One inch right, splat
I waved traffic away from it
In both directions

A motorist
Took notice of my efforts
And offered me a bag
To pick it up

It flopped and struggled
But quickly it knew
It was not my prey
But to try and save

I pondered such
What to do
With this helpless life
As did I before with the Leporid.

Passing by the
Fire house
I queried them
If they could help

As I suspected
It was not the case
Nor they nor I
Were equipped

With cat and dog
I could not bring home
It would not be happy
In a cage

So release I did
With heavy heart
This poor bird
Away from the road

It probably had
Been fatally injured
Long before
I tried to help
(end)

The title is a take off of a line in a Sting song line in the song "King Of Pain". I couldn't tell you what kind of bird it was, but it was injured and in the middle of the same road that I found the baby rabbit on the side of the road.

For those who don't know Stephen Peer fell to his death attempting to walk a tight rope between the Twin Towers.

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Naive, By Brian37

Juxtapose
Each supposed
Philosophies
Of economics

"The best
Of your ability
According
To your means"

Would be an Atlas
Shrugged
By
Alisa Rosenbaum

Off the Marx
Both seem to be
Slapping one word solutions
On humanity

Profit motive
Rand exalted
While Karl said
Workers mattered

Since evolution
Produces range
Neither solution
Can be solely implemented

Ayn failed to see
The private sector
As a human venture
Subject to the same abuse

Abuse of power
Had West Virginia mines
With monopolies
Paying in company script

Where after the worker
Slaved in the mines
Paid their rent for their food
To the same company

And after all that
Would be left with nothing
Basically legalized
Slavery

Marx would have
Rightfully championed
The plight
Of these abused

Yet to ignore
Personal motive
For power
Is what lead to Stalin

So what both missed
Are that monopolies
And abuse of power
Are not private vs government

But are issues
Of motivation
In that both
Are human ventures

Both have to have checks
And oversight
And cannot be limited
To simplistic either/or choices

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Meme Spirited, By Brian37

Giant Lizards
Swimming
Around
In the depths

The mundane
Ordinary nobody
Unfortunately
Took out somebody

In Dallas
But Depositories
Occupied by nobodies
Are not sexy enough

A mid west military base
Out in the dessert
Hides cosmic vehicles
Operated by scaly creatures

Corn fields with patterns
Hairy beasts
Run through the woods
"In Search Of" ratings

Bastardizing words
"History" and "Learning"
Slapping "channel"
Shilling add time

"Administering medicine
To the dead"
Paine thought of those
Who parted with reason

And the daddy
Of all conspiracies
Is the fantastic claim
Of invisible beings

Without neurons
Or location
The puppeteer
Throughout the ages

Is meme spirited
Sells quite well
Demanding its followers
Bow and kill outsiders

Shermer Shermer
Please shout louder
Explain to them
Of weird beliefs.

Reversed film
Of boy climbing rope
Levitating Swami
And Ouija boards

Kill the sages
Oracles and priests
With appeal to reason
"Prophets" will cease

Stinger Stinger
Raise your voice
Reality
Can only be faced

With clear minds
Without the clutter
Of conflated construct

Of unfounded thinking

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"Cancer and hurricanes
All occur
And as the flower wilts
There is nothing to fear"

Is actually my most favorite part - it shows how strong flowers are and how strong a human being is if it believes. Not only in himself but also in other forces stronger than we can be sometimes. Heavenly forces. Still the flowers remind me of love and faith. Maybe that is why I always order flowers from a serenata florist in Manchester. They make me happy.


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nlozano wrote:

"Cancer and hurricanes
All occur
And as the flower wilts
There is nothing to fear"

Is actually my most favorite part - it shows how strong flowers are and how strong a human being is if it believes. Not only in himself but also in other forces stronger than we can be sometimes. Heavenly forces. Still the flowers remind me of love and faith. Maybe that is why I always order flowers from a serenata florist in Manchester. They make me happy.

Thanks for the spam jackass.

 

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Them, By Brian37

 

They should not

They cannot

They will not

I will stop them

 

My arsenal

Tradition

My faith

The weapon

 

It holds me strong

Justifying anything

To keep progress

At bay

 

Foolish predilections

Comfort my dreams

Costing others

Their dignity

 

Coddle my insecurities

For I cannot face

Or accept

"Them"

 

They do different things

They like different things

They look different

That is always bad

 

Yet all are in the world

"Them" to another group

Negating "them"

Leaving one species

 

 

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Unscrupulous, By Brian37

Unscrupulous By Brian37

 

Barb wire bedlam

Tumultuous undulation

Forming in torture

In maidens and racks

 

Alacrity for deities

Barron of compassion

Void of introspection

Dominance the goal

 

Barbaric watchman

From the start

Above while watching

Frothing over his minions

 

The cogs dismember

Creates history's horrors

Feigned righteousness

In God's glory

 

It is the abyss

Of thoughtlessness

That of certainty

Lacking evidence

 

Above above

Thus they claim

And this deity

Watches us murder and maime

 

Pustule logic

Infects their brains

Perpetuating the nuptials

Of human misery

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Material World, By Brian37

Material World, By Brian37

 

Thoughts are

To the brain

What speeding is

To a car

 

Those who insist

That "we" are separate

From our brains

Are deluded

 

Victor S

In his book

Said that science

Could take a look

 

Science can study

The immaterial

Like dark matter

And black holes

 

Just like speed

Is not a thing

How is it then

Police give you a ticket?

 

Thoughts are not things

Merely a word

Used to describe

Outcomes of material processes

 

We do not

Outlast our bodies

When the brain dies

You die, that is it.

 

The needless conflation

Of the ordinary

Of our existence

Is all it is

 

It's not sexy enough

For woo mongers

To face the finite

They MUST live on

 

No one does

No one will

Vile speculation

Reason mutilated

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Testosterone, By Brian37

Testosterone, By Brian37

 

Yesterday

He put on display

Evolution's manifestation

Of testosterone protecting ego

 

Weaker physically

Than my manager

And most certainly

By title

 

Authoritarian

Are how many are raised

Not to question

Merely to obey

 

So yesterday

Not to cause conflict

Merely to demonstrate

No one there was perfect

 

His ego bruised

By my telling the truth

Threatened to fire me

For stating the obvious

 

What he had done

Falsely so

Confused questioning

For defiance

 

If one cares

Only to protect ego

Instead of understanding

It produces far too many bullies in evolution

 

 

 

 

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Predilections, By

Predilections, By Brian37

 

"I am this"

Many do claim

"I am special"

Yet all the same

 

Yet prior to

Cuneiform writing

Long before

Modern sapient

 

DNA was was around

The ability to reproduce

Existed then

As it does now

 

Predilections

In social clubs

Change or die

Over time

 

To reproduce

Creating offspring

Only requires

Evolution

 

It need not that

Of ideology

In terms of superstition

Or political party

 

 

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Cutting The Head Off Medusa,

Cutting The Head Off Medusa, By Brian37

 

The snakes wriggle

Spring and bite

Her stare

Turns you to stone

 

The snakes are

Sedentary

Writhing from

Ignorant antiquity

 

The sword of reason

Decapitates the taboo

It frees us

From our myths

 

Allah will not

Get humans to Mars

Vishnu did not

Get us to the Marianas trench

 

Medusa is

Mundane ego

Our selfish

Projectionism

 

It keeps the pope

In undue, unearned power

It keeps those under

In mental shackles

 

Force will not ween

Humans from their opiates

But the ability to question

Gives all the opportunity to leave

 

Die Medusa die,

I have discarded my toys

And you no longer have

Power over me

 

You cannot win Medusa

I do not slumber

Any longer

On things that never were.

 

 

 

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Rated G, By Brian37

Rated G, By Brian37

 

The proud father

Of four flipped through

His morning paper

To the Entertainment section

 

He was thinking

Of what he could do

On the weekend

With his family

 

And there the words were

"Opening Friday

Rated G

Fun

For the entire family"

 

The night came

Putting them

In the lobby

Buying their popcorn soda and snacks

 

All impatient

During the previews

Anticipating

The excitement to come

 

As the credits rolled

The ominous music

Pounded out

Their immoral movie

 

But it was not butter

On the popcorn

It was the blood

Of indoctrination

 

If Dr Doolittle

Had sold Lot

Or Malichi 2:3

Would the movie be rated G

 

If Luke Skywaker said

"Kill all the boys

And save the girls

As in Numbers 31:17-18

 

Would this proud father

Take his family

To that movie

Or call it moral?

 

If Harry Potter

Said "Kill the first born"

Would he be a hero

Should he be a hero?

 

When they talk of the flood

None of these parents

In reality would

Take their kid to a morgue

 

Drowned bodies

Are bloated

Distorted

And smell on the slab

 

This blockbuster

Is not cute

Nor suited

For the young

 

It is full of gore

Murder, immorality

Incest

And genocide

 

Rated G

Would hardly be

An appropriate rating

For this

Horror film

 

The pulpit actor

On Sunday's screen

Shouts to the young

"YOU SHOULD FEAR HIM!"

 

Crippling them

Into needless submission

No chance for them

To decide for themselves

 

If that does not work

He becomes the concession stand

Selling them fictional Goobers

Popcorn and Junior Mints that don't exist

 

This same poor player

Bribes them with farm animals

In pairs

On the tables of waiting rooms

 

No sane parent

Is going to expose

Their child that young

To Misty Beethoven

 

No sane parent

Is going to subject

A pliable brain

To the likes of Freddy

 

So to these parents

I ask the following

If rightfully the case

Then why the hypocrisy

 

If that book

You falsely call "good"

Then read all of it

While they are young

 

Shout at them

Like you claim

God threatens us

For our own good

 

Advocate violence

Beat them

Like you say

We deserve

 

Read every word

To them

Rape their minds

While you can

 

You recoil at these words

As sick blasphemy

But the poor player

Sells it on Sunday

 

It will never be

Rated G

And it will never be

"A good book"

 

Otherwise

You could read it

All of it, every word

Without censorship

(end)

 

Numbers 31:17-18 - Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

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Enjoyed it, Brian37. Good

Enjoyed it, Brian37. Good imaginery.


The priest only tells us the nice bible stories. He keeps the dark ones for himself and his young male companion.

Religion Kills !!!

Numbers 31:17-18 - Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

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Thank you, but it wasn't

Thank you, but it wasn't really about priests molesting children. It was an indictment of the entire book. If it were such a good book, then parents shouldn't have to gloss over the violence and cruelty in it with a child.

It is an insidious book that masks a threat bribery system as virtue.

The real reason that those nasty things exist in the bible is it is a reflection of how cultures behaved back then and was written in a very ignorant tribal time. Appeal to authority and blind loyalty and no mercy to the enemy were common accepted social norms back then.

 

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Yes. The book is not rated

Yes. The book is not rated G, but XXX.
I was just trying a line of poetry myself.

I have heard christians say the horror in the book shows it's divine because it paints its heros, like david, in a bad light. But what they don't see it its the same for their god.

Religion Kills !!!

Numbers 31:17-18 - Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

http://jesus-needs-money.blogspot.com/