All the way. Been there done that.

There is truth beyond the Bible, when you realize that you will find that the beauty of reality is much more worthy of a God that the petty things of kings and farmers and their harsh daily lifes.

The subtleness of the Universe is just mind boggling.

 

Perhaps the kind that says if atheists are right you will never know you are wrong.

 

 

 

 

The bible doesn't say that. Where did you get that idea?

 

I confess that this was the first kind of stuff that pulled me away from the Bible long ago... the Books of Kings is just plain obvious for anyone to see. It was written to support and legitimize the power of the kings of Israel. They were greedy and promiscuous. To support their evilness they made up stories that it was instead God that commanded those actions. After this I found out that the Bible is a collection of myths put together by Constantin and a group of priests decided by their own deluded and power thirsty minds that those words were God inspired...

I don't know why is it so hard for LOADS of people to see this when it's plain obvious... This is changing rapidly though...

 

"1Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the Lord. 2This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” - Endorsing Genocide

"10 And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children.
11 And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man.
12 And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan."

...20 Therefore they commanded the children of Benjamin, saying, Go and lie in wait in the vineyards;
21 And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh, and go to the land of Benjamin." - Mass raping

"9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." - WTF!

I can tell you one thing. I have no shread of doubt in my mind that there is more Love in me than the God that is portraited here in the Bible.

Don't come and tell me the story of why God sent Jesus to be killed, because that's the most insane story I have heard in my life.

 

 

Yes I am 

You're the one who's solely looking at the Bible 

You were there that's how you know that... of course. War was common back then. Everyone did it. I guess by your standarts we should have killed all Germans after the WWII, women and children even their pets and farm animals...

Exactly! this is why there is no shred of doubt in my mind that I have more Love in me than God.

But it is the kind of thing that attracts believers. It tells you a lot about believers. Ask why.

www.giwersworld.org/made-in-alexandria/index.html

 

Now that you have asked why, gods never speak for themselves. They speak through people. The sociopathic personality type jumps at the chance be the spokesman who rules as a god by his claim to know the desires of that god. The more bloodthirsty their god the more bloodthirsty they can be because they speak for their god.

Even in the most pleasant of possible circumstances anyone with a backwards collar or white dickey or even just a cheap black linen suit is treated as special. Is it possible to think that was not part of the decision to choose the profession? A lit degree summa cum laude gets you nada.

Many years ago I worked with a guy who indulged in public pranks. He once got Arab head dress and was driven around Syracuse by another man in Navy uniform showing him the sights. Another of his pranks was the cheap linen suit and white dickey while flying.

People insisted on carrying his luggage. He was moved to 1st class by the stews. And people smiled when he said Bless You. He did nothing but wear the costume. How much better with divinity school teaching the details of the con? It is not the god. It is not the religion. It is the people who run the religion.

What puzzle? It says what it says. It says the Israelites were worse than the Nazis as the Nazis spared the animals.

But for a fact we know the entire Exodus and everything connected with it is myth including Passove just what do you think you are talking about other than a tale of a bloodthirsty, malevolent god worthy of a speedy trial and a slow execution?

Because this is an invented story when it first appeared people knew it was an invented story. It was therefore adopted as a national mythos to justify any and all kinds barbaric, primitive mass murder.

But you know that.

 

You don't have to answer, I know you are
Ignorant of scripture. I will hive you the reason why.

I said the bible us the word of God.

You said, Not true . The bible does not say that .

I gave you 2 Timothy 3:16 were it clearly says that :

English translation :All scripture is given by inspiration Of God.
The original Greek translation : All scripture is God breathed .
πᾶσα γραφὴ θεόπνευστος

I don't expect you to comprehend this, due to your ignorance .
Therefore farewell !

It is a common word in Greek. It was not invented by Timothy. It means what is means in all other contexts. You cannot force a different meaning on a word just because it makes your god delusions sound better.

There is no singular in the word. If it meant singular it would read "Ho Theos Pneustos" Breath of The God. So up front you are in error. (My Greek grammar do sucketh greatly.)

All that is written is scripture. Thus the tales of Innana and Gilgamesh are equally inspired by the gods in plain English or god-inspired in "majesterial" English. The words mean only what is written. All scripture was written.All writing was given breath (of life) by the gods.

Timothy does not say, "My words are inspired by a god."

Both the old and new parts of the bible talk about many gods. If a specific god is intended its name is given. Timothy names no particular god but used a classical Greek term meaning inspired, by Muses in the specifics which named categories of art. There is no usage of this term in Greek which implies truth or quality or accuracy or trustworthy content. To imply it does is utter nonsense. The Greeks recognized most inspiration was dreck, of Ed Wood quality. That is the way the word was used by the Greeks. Nothing in the passage indicates a different meaning was intended.

But the word is first given a nonsense translation into Latin. That introduces the different idea of inspiration rather than breathing life into an idea, aid in embodying it, bringing to life what is already present. In no Greek usage does it mean imparting a new idea. Thus the translation is nonsense to begin with as it changes the meaning of the word. We do NOT have to guess what Greek words means. We can read their writings and see what they meant.

From the Latin which means something other than the Greek a contrived English translation is given. The English then introduces capitalization which is not in the Greek. It introduces capitalization which in English implies the Christian god which is not in the Greek word. It copies the Latin meaning of implanting a new idea rather than giving (the breath of) life to an existing idea.

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Were your ignorance not bad enough, the Christian god has no name. One of the jewish gods is Yahwah of the Elohim pantheon. Yahweh Elohim is used over 5000 times. Either both words are its name or it indicates the pantheon of which it is a member.

The gosels report Jesus talking about his father. He never names his father. He never says his father is the god worshiped in the temple in Jerusalem. The Galileans like the Samaritans had the Judean god forced on them by military conquest and forced conversion. It is not credible Galileans such as Jesus would mean the Judean god. The Judeans referred to Christians as Galilean up through the 3rc c. Jews meant only Judeans. It meant geographic origin not religion. The religion of the Judeans/Jews in today's terms is correctly described as a ritual/taboo cult not a religion.

The customary identification of the Father and Yahweh as the same does not appear until the late 3rd c. AD centuries after the latest possible creation of Timothy. It is not mentioned before then. It is not credible Timothy could be talking about what did not exist until long after his death.

Why do you not know these things?

 

Mickey,

Hebrews 4:12.

It should be pointed out that we are speaking english, not Greek. Also, terms don't determine concepts, but rather concepts determine terms. Therefore, the concept of the Trinity for example is found in Scripture, but there is no word called Trinity.

Thus you have made a logical fallacy.

And have not read your Bible. The Word of God is actually in the Bible lol.

wow. This ought to be an easy refutation. But your hardened heart will somehow find a way to look at it and see something different like ducks eatting bananas at the park.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

Mickey,

The Logos Tou Theou, Genitive Case of Possession  = The Word Of God.

I've studied Greek since I was 15.

Refutation Noted.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).