Ravens vs Pats, and bad Reff calls.

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Ravens vs Pats, and bad Reff calls.

I am quite sure Jefrick had the same reaction to the one touchdown given to Baltimore,  AFTER, an offensive face mask, NOT CALLED, AND even without that the receiver stepped out of bounds. Not having a horse in that race that was a blown call.

BUT Baltimore was also cheated in the last seconds of the game when they passed and the guy caught the ball in the end zone. He had possession BEFORE the ball was slapped out of his hands and his feet had touched the ground.

I HATE bad calls. I wasn't rooting for either team, but I hate bad calls.

NOW as an aside, outside those two bad calls. The missed kick with 15 seconds  by Baltimore that would have sent the game into over time, must have made that kicker kindred spirits with the Buffalo Bills Kicker who lost to the Giants in a Super Bowl with seconds left on a chip shot.

What that kicker did would be like having a wad of paper inches away and directly above a trash can, and STILL missing. How the fuck do you miss such a close kick?

 

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Yeah but........................

                    ......the pats still won, I know the guy stepped out of bounds but the Pats won. I'd be a lot less compliant if it was OT or the Pats lost but I can live with the results.   NE  23  Balt  20;  I can live with that.   And this is post 1900,  ta dah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                            edit[ Did you read the Forever 7 post:  and/or make a comment?

 

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                    ......the pats still won, I know the guy stepped out of bounds but the Pats won. I'd be a lot less compliant if it was OT or the Pats lost but I can live with the results.   NE  23  Balt  20;  I can live with that.   And this is post 1900,  ta dah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                            edit[ Did you read the Forever 7 post:  and/or make a comment?

 

Huh? Not sure about the "forever" post.

But I did find irony that the AFC game was lost by a kicker, and the NFC game was won by a kicker. But, I cant remember the last time any playoff game went to over time, that HAS been a long time.

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Brian37 wrote:I am quite

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I am quite sure Jefrick had the same reaction to the one touchdown given to Baltimore,  AFTER, an offensive face mask, NOT CALLED, AND even without that the receiver stepped out of bounds. Not having a horse in that race that was a blown call.

BUT Baltimore was also cheated in the last seconds of the game when they passed and the guy caught the ball in the end zone. He had possession BEFORE the ball was slapped out of his hands and his feet had touched the ground.

I HATE bad calls. I wasn't rooting for either team, but I hate bad calls.

NOW as an aside, outside those two bad calls. The missed kick with 15 seconds  by Baltimore that would have sent the game into over time, must have made that kicker kindred spirits with the Buffalo Bills Kicker who lost to the Giants in a Super Bowl with seconds left on a chip shot.

What that kicker did would be like having a wad of paper inches away and directly above a trash can, and STILL missing. How the fuck do you miss such a close kick?

Learn the rules. He did not have possession of the ball.

 

It would have been nice to see Balt vs SanFran but..

 

Also, NY will beat NE 27 to 21 in the final seconds.

NE has no defense and no special teams.

 

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Brian37 wrote:Huh? Not sure

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Huh? Not sure about the "forever" post.

But I did find irony that the AFC game was lost by a kicker, and the NFC game was won by a kicker. But, I cant remember the last time any playoff game went to over time, that HAS been a long time.

No game is EVER lost on one play. It's the entire game. Every missed block. Every dropped pass. Every penalty. Yes.. and every kick.

 

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That's true, you can't blame

That's true, you can't blame the last few plays for a game won or lost. But how wild that both games came down to a kick. I suppose the Baltimore kicker, Cundiff, will lose his job-"laces out"

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I am quite sure Jefrick had the same reaction to the one touchdown given to Baltimore,  AFTER, an offensive face mask, NOT CALLED, AND even without that the receiver stepped out of bounds. Not having a horse in that race that was a blown call.

BUT Baltimore was also cheated in the last seconds of the game when they passed and the guy caught the ball in the end zone. He had possession BEFORE the ball was slapped out of his hands and his feet had touched the ground.

I HATE bad calls. I wasn't rooting for either team, but I hate bad calls.

NOW as an aside, outside those two bad calls. The missed kick with 15 seconds  by Baltimore that would have sent the game into over time, must have made that kicker kindred spirits with the Buffalo Bills Kicker who lost to the Giants in a Super Bowl with seconds left on a chip shot.

What that kicker did would be like having a wad of paper inches away and directly above a trash can, and STILL missing. How the fuck do you miss such a close kick?

Learn the rules. He did not have possession of the ball.

 

It would have been nice to see Balt vs SanFran but..

 

Also, NY will beat NE 27 to 21 in the final seconds.

NE has no defense and no special teams.

 

I don't know what game you were watching but his hands were on the ball when his feet touched the ground. You must have accidentally read a bible verse before watching that play. Mind rot will delude your perceptions.LOL

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I am quite sure Jefrick had the same reaction to the one touchdown given to Baltimore,  AFTER, an offensive face mask, NOT CALLED, AND even without that the receiver stepped out of bounds. Not having a horse in that race that was a blown call.

BUT Baltimore was also cheated in the last seconds of the game when they passed and the guy caught the ball in the end zone. He had possession BEFORE the ball was slapped out of his hands and his feet had touched the ground.

I HATE bad calls. I wasn't rooting for either team, but I hate bad calls.

NOW as an aside, outside those two bad calls. The missed kick with 15 seconds  by Baltimore that would have sent the game into over time, must have made that kicker kindred spirits with the Buffalo Bills Kicker who lost to the Giants in a Super Bowl with seconds left on a chip shot.

What that kicker did would be like having a wad of paper inches away and directly above a trash can, and STILL missing. How the fuck do you miss such a close kick?

Learn the rules. He did not have possession of the ball.

 

It would have been nice to see Balt vs SanFran but..

 

Also, NY will beat NE 27 to 21 in the final seconds.

NE has no defense and no special teams.

 

I don't know what game you were watching but his hands were on the ball when his feet touched the ground. You must have accidentally read a bible verse before watching that play. Mind rot will delude your perceptions.LOL

For a person who didn't care who won or lost, you certainly are putting up quite the "WAAAAAAAA! MY TEAM LOSS" vibe.

You are definitely a Baltimore Ravens fan or you just hate the NE Patriots a whole bunch.

The ruling is that the receiver must show complete control of the ball and have two full steps in bounds.

"Possession: When a player controls the ball throughout the act of clearly touching both feet, or any other part of his body other than his hand(s), to the ground inbounds."

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/definitions

I've watched the tape over and over again... I'm sorry to say that he did not complete the act of catching the pass and having two feet on the ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkgFqvJUqpg&feature=related

Also, I don't read the bible, nor do I follow any religion. You must remember from previous conversations that I am a buddhist.

 

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I am quite sure Jefrick had the same reaction to the one touchdown given to Baltimore,  AFTER, an offensive face mask, NOT CALLED, AND even without that the receiver stepped out of bounds. Not having a horse in that race that was a blown call.

BUT Baltimore was also cheated in the last seconds of the game when they passed and the guy caught the ball in the end zone. He had possession BEFORE the ball was slapped out of his hands and his feet had touched the ground.

I HATE bad calls. I wasn't rooting for either team, but I hate bad calls.

NOW as an aside, outside those two bad calls. The missed kick with 15 seconds  by Baltimore that would have sent the game into over time, must have made that kicker kindred spirits with the Buffalo Bills Kicker who lost to the Giants in a Super Bowl with seconds left on a chip shot.

What that kicker did would be like having a wad of paper inches away and directly above a trash can, and STILL missing. How the fuck do you miss such a close kick?

Learn the rules. He did not have possession of the ball.

 

It would have been nice to see Balt vs SanFran but..

 

Also, NY will beat NE 27 to 21 in the final seconds.

NE has no defense and no special teams.

 

I don't know what game you were watching but his hands were on the ball when his feet touched the ground. You must have accidentally read a bible verse before watching that play. Mind rot will delude your perceptions.LOL

For a person who didn't care who won or lost, you certainly are putting up quite the "WAAAAAAAA! MY TEAM LOSS" vibe.

You are definitely a Baltimore Ravens fan or you just hate the NE Patriots a whole bunch.

The ruling is that the receiver must show complete control of the ball and have two full steps in bounds.

"Possession: When a player controls the ball throughout the act of clearly touching both feet, or any other part of his body other than his hand(s), to the ground inbounds."

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/definitions

I've watched the tape over and over again... I'm sorry to say that he did not complete the act of catching the pass and having two feet on the ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkgFqvJUqpg&feature=related

Also, I don't read the bible, nor do I follow any religion. You must remember from previous conversations that I am a buddhist.

 

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Brian37 wrote:I am quite

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I am quite sure Jefrick had the same reaction to the one touchdown given to Baltimore,  AFTER, an offensive face mask, NOT CALLED, AND even without that the receiver stepped out of bounds. Not having a horse in that race that was a blown call.

BUT Baltimore was also cheated in the last seconds of the game when they passed and the guy caught the ball in the end zone. He had possession BEFORE the ball was slapped out of his hands and his feet had touched the ground.

I HATE bad calls. I wasn't rooting for either team, but I hate bad calls.

NOW as an aside, outside those two bad calls. The missed kick with 15 seconds  by Baltimore that would have sent the game into over time, must have made that kicker kindred spirits with the Buffalo Bills Kicker who lost to the Giants in a Super Bowl with seconds left on a chip shot.

What that kicker did would be like having a wad of paper inches away and directly above a trash can, and STILL missing. How the fuck do you miss such a close kick?

 

All games have bad calls and officials that seem blind to blantant holding and pass interference.

In the 1st case with the Ravens TD, the blind official on the field made the call as a TD. There was not sufficient video in the opinion of the other blind offical to overturn.

Once the official called it a TD, the offensive facemask the blind official missed is not reviewable.

Too bad, the NFL does not call penalties on reviews. If they did, the games would extend to 4 or 5 hours as almost every play has a possible penalty the officials miss.

In the 2nd case, the call could go either way as "control" is an oipinion of the officials. I'm sure you have seen these go both ways just as I have.

I admit to being a Pats hater, as I'm a Bronco fan. However, the bad calls were pretty much balanced.

The Giants will take care of the Pats once more in the Superbowl just like they did 4 years ago.

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Brian37 wrote:

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Brian37 wrote:

I am quite sure Jefrick had the same reaction to the one touchdown given to Baltimore,  AFTER, an offensive face mask, NOT CALLED, AND even without that the receiver stepped out of bounds. Not having a horse in that race that was a blown call.

BUT Baltimore was also cheated in the last seconds of the game when they passed and the guy caught the ball in the end zone. He had possession BEFORE the ball was slapped out of his hands and his feet had touched the ground.

I HATE bad calls. I wasn't rooting for either team, but I hate bad calls.

NOW as an aside, outside those two bad calls. The missed kick with 15 seconds  by Baltimore that would have sent the game into over time, must have made that kicker kindred spirits with the Buffalo Bills Kicker who lost to the Giants in a Super Bowl with seconds left on a chip shot.

What that kicker did would be like having a wad of paper inches away and directly above a trash can, and STILL missing. How the fuck do you miss such a close kick?

Learn the rules. He did not have possession of the ball.

 

It would have been nice to see Balt vs SanFran but..

 

Also, NY will beat NE 27 to 21 in the final seconds.

NE has no defense and no special teams.

 

I don't know what game you were watching but his hands were on the ball when his feet touched the ground. You must have accidentally read a bible verse before watching that play. Mind rot will delude your perceptions.LOL

For a person who didn't care who won or lost, you certainly are putting up quite the "WAAAAAAAA! MY TEAM LOSS" vibe.

You are definitely a Baltimore Ravens fan or you just hate the NE Patriots a whole bunch.

The ruling is that the receiver must show complete control of the ball and have two full steps in bounds.

"Possession: When a player controls the ball throughout the act of clearly touching both feet, or any other part of his body other than his hand(s), to the ground inbounds."

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/definitions

I've watched the tape over and over again... I'm sorry to say that he did not complete the act of catching the pass and having two feet on the ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkgFqvJUqpg&feature=related

Also, I don't read the bible, nor do I follow any religion. You must remember from previous conversations that I am a buddhist.

 

I am a Redskins fan, the objection to that call was strictly "you need glasses reff". HE HAD control of the ball, time of control was not the issue. He caught the ball and had possession when his feet touched the ground. I don't care if it were Miami vs Raiders or Seahawks vs Tampa. A bad call is a bad call and that was a bad call.

And relax dude. This is all tongue and cheek stuff to me. Just being a pundit about that call. It isn't life or death.

BUT on a serious note outside the issue of sports, since you brought it up. Buddhism IS  a religion, I hate to tell you. It has temples and prayers and woo just like any other religion. Now if you want to claim to be a secular Buddhist, I am fine with that, just like there are secular Christians and Jews who like going through the motions and like the label but don't do anything organized, and some are atheists as well. But Buddhism is as much a religion as any other. If you claim to be a Buddhist, all be it an atheist Buddhist, you STILL fall under a religious label.

 

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I am a Redskins fan, the objection to that call was strictly "you need glasses reff". HE HAD control of the ball, time of control was not the issue. He caught the ball and had possession when his feet touched the ground. I don't care if it were Miami vs Raiders or Seahawks vs Tampa. A bad call is a bad call and that was a bad call.

And relax dude. This is all tongue and cheek stuff to me. Just being a pundit about that call. It isn't life or death.

BUT on a serious note outside the issue of sports, since you brought it up. Buddhism IS  a religion, I hate to tell you. It has temples and prayers and woo just like any other religion. Now if you want to claim to be a secular Buddhist, I am fine with that, just like there are secular Christians and Jews who like going through the motions and like the label but don't do anything organized, and some are atheists as well. But Buddhism is as much a religion as any other. If you claim to be a Buddhist, all be it an atheist Buddhist, you STILL fall under a religious label.

 

Well I would love to have had him catch the ball. Really I do. I am a Ricky Williams fan as well Ray Lewis (which is sad for both of them because I think they will be retiring).

It is very true that people do treat buddhism like a religion, but I hate to tell you this, until you've spent several months visiting buddhist countries you won't really have a grasp on what the "common" person thinks of it. The people I met from around the world DO NOT worship buddha. They give thanks to the many of buddhas (yes there is more than one) by offering sacrifices of food or by burning incense (which they buy from the monks because usually monks are not allowed to beg).

And for labels, you fall under?

You have this thing about labels. Do you label every thing or just belief systems? I bet you keep a very neat and orderly home.

 

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All I can say is I was playing Magic: The Gathering 2012 on PS3 during that game, and when the kick was missed there was an uproar from my American friends demanding the immediate dismissal of the kicker. I doubt he has a bright future awaiting him in the NFL.

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I am a Redskins fan, the objection to that call was strictly "you need glasses reff". HE HAD control of the ball, time of control was not the issue. He caught the ball and had possession when his feet touched the ground. I don't care if it were Miami vs Raiders or Seahawks vs Tampa. A bad call is a bad call and that was a bad call.

And relax dude. This is all tongue and cheek stuff to me. Just being a pundit about that call. It isn't life or death.

BUT on a serious note outside the issue of sports, since you brought it up. Buddhism IS  a religion, I hate to tell you. It has temples and prayers and woo just like any other religion. Now if you want to claim to be a secular Buddhist, I am fine with that, just like there are secular Christians and Jews who like going through the motions and like the label but don't do anything organized, and some are atheists as well. But Buddhism is as much a religion as any other. If you claim to be a Buddhist, all be it an atheist Buddhist, you STILL fall under a religious label.

 

Well I would love to have had him catch the ball. Really I do. I am a Ricky Williams fan as well Ray Lewis (which is sad for both of them because I think they will be retiring).

It is very true that people do treat buddhism like a religion, but I hate to tell you this, until you've spent several months visiting buddhist countries you won't really have a grasp on what the "common" person thinks of it. The people I met from around the world DO NOT worship buddha. They give thanks to the many of buddhas (yes there is more than one) by offering sacrifices of food or by burning incense (which they buy from the monks because usually monks are not allowed to beg).

And for labels, you fall under?

You have this thing about labels. Do you label every thing or just belief systems? I bet you keep a very neat and orderly home.

 

 

Again, I have no doubt that there are variations of the way people say they "practice" Buddhism. But that does NOT make it not a religion. And for that matter, how is "giving thanks" to the "many buddhas any different than giving thanks to a monotheistic god? You are still "giving thanks" to a being that is not alive and not real.

And sacrifices are a superstitious ritual as well.

Buddhism like Christianity and Like Hinduism and Hebrew started in antiquity under an ENTIRE planet of scientifically ignorant people. Buddhism is merely a club of rituals and superstitions like every other religion. Some individuals take their rituals and superstitions more seriously than other individuals. But no matter HOW an individual views their label, or how seriously or relaxed THE INDIVIDUAL is, if you hold a label all that hold that label all fall under the same label.

Beyond Saving and I ARE BOTH atheists. If most atheists thought like him as far as economics, he is still an atheist. I have different economic views as Beyond, but I am still an atheist. Get it?

YOU are trying to read into this more than there is. A Buddhist is a Buddhist, Just like a Catholic and Baptist are both Christians. Just like Sunnis and Shiites are both Muslim.

Buddhist have prayers and Buddhist temples have prayer wheels. "Giving thanks" and "sacrifice" are rituals and superstitions that exist in ALL the world's major religions.

 

 

 

 

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